too much debt will always get you down, it has been this way since the time of kings and dictators, pretty concerning post that must attract more attention than its is doing now.!
I believe that we have watched the successful take over of a country by private individuals.
This kind of super villainy is something that fiction writers would have love to come up with.
I bet you all that that the military was the only way to conquer a country.
But why did they choose Greece? Was it a planned financial takeover? Or did they just see an opportunity and take it?
So many questions…
All we can do is prepare for the worst and prevent whenever possible.
Justin
Yep, ol' George knew a thing or two about a thing or two. We could sure use him now.
I like Rob Kirby, , and found an interesting podcast with him at Dr. Dave Janda's site, "Operation Freedom", @ http://www.davejanda.com/guests/rob-kirby/sunday-august-2-2015
Check out 15:12+ … It sure sounds like the economic pain we are/will be experiencing isn't "by accident", nor are the attacks against our countries' sovereignty.
He is a sincere guy… experienced the beginnings of the era of derivatives from inside the banking system. My favorite commentators (other than Chris) happen to be folks who experienced the rot from the inside, and had to leave before they died of the smell… guys like Krieger, Kirby, and Kranzler. Thanks for posting Pinecarr.
edit: apparently I like k-names too.
I listened to the Dave Janda podcast with Rob Kirby (15:00 mark) posted above by Pinecarr. Thanks.
I have heard a couple of times about the writings of Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University professor that had such an impact on Bill Clinton's thinking. Bill Clinton referred to Carroll Quigley by name in his speech where he accepted the Democratic nomination for presidency. (My guess here is that by this mentioning Quigley's name, he was nodding and winking to the oligarchy and signaling "I will represent you if elected.")
I'll put out 2 of Quigley's more famous quotes here.
And,
“The argument that the two parties [Republican and Democratic] should represent opposed ideals and policies... is a foolish idea. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.” ― Carroll Quigley
Hi Jim H, I agree; nothing like (Kirby and others) having had an inside view to "see" what's going on!
SP, the other line they quoted in the Kirby interview that resonated -from a book written in 1966- was:
"Each Central Bank sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world." [bold mine]
Thanks for those telling quotations SandPuppy and Pinecarr.



way to destroy banking fraud and corruption, no doubt ordered from the top. Cover it in rubble, saves a lot of trouble!
What happened to that third plane by the way?

If any of you are up late and in a thoughtful mood, here are 2 interviews from the Project Censored Website from a year ago. These interviews seem to reflect the writing of Charles Hugh Smith on the deep state, also.
The first is with Mike Lofgren, writing for Moyers and Company, and reported by Project Censored. "The Deep State: Government without reference to the consent of the governed."
It is no secret that concerned citizens are condemning the United States government’s lack of transparency, accountability, and honest constituent representation. Reporting for Moyers & Company, Mike Lofgren, a congressional staff member for twenty-eight years specializing in national security, addressed the issue of the “deep state” that undemocratically orchestrates unchecked private agendas, while corporate media distract the public’s attention by focusing on traditional Washington partisan politics. Lofgren contended that, although the deep state is “neither omniscient nor invincible,” it is a “relentlessly well entrenched,” “hybrid association of elements of government and parts of top-level finance and industry that is effectively able to govern the United States without reference to the consent of the governed.”
Exploiting the world’s resources and governments with criminal impunity, a wealthy elite—sporting an estimated $32 trillion in tax-exempt offshore havens—are the deep dark secret of plutocratic imperialism, operating behind more visible, privately controlled government representatives. Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL), the House Financial Services Committee incoming chairman in 2010, openly flouted constitutional rights when he stated, “My view is that Washington and the regulators are there to serve the banks.”The second is an hour long interview by the Project Censored staff with Peter Dale Scott, Professor Emeritus at University of California and former Canadian Ambassador.full essay here
Scott describes a transnational, loosely organized group of ultra-wealthy who influence / control covert sections (black budget) of various militaries and intelligence agencies. He does not see this as a formal group, though some sections are formally organized, especially the US Continuity of Government (COG) operation.
Scott speaks of his 3 main areas of concern about what the deep state is up to:
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Warrantless surveillance,
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Warrantless detention
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The militarization of Homeland Security, with the domestic stationing of an Army command, NORTHCOM for the purpose of controlling domestic disturbances.
He talks about the formation of the COG rules by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld over a 20 year period and the irony that it was these same two individuals who activated the COG rules on September 14, 2001, 3 days after the attack.
It was the COG communication network that Oliver North used to arrange shipment of arms to Iran illegally.
One of the big changes I am seeing here is that it is becoming socially acceptable to talk about the deep state without being disparaged with the pseudo-psychiatric diagnosis of "conspiracy theorist."