I carry a wimpy 9
My only 10 is the pride and joy of my safe ![]()
Well they say 9 for the 'hood, 10 for the woods, but Iâm getting 732FPE pretty consistently with 180gr out of a 3.75" barrel.
Barks about as loud as my old scandoum 340PD with P+. Chunkier, but it holds way more rounds and itâs fun plinking 8" steel in my backyard at 60y with it ![]()
Great interview, Chris. Very happy you had Nate on the site. Years ago, when Chris had an interview with the founder of the survivorlibrary.com, thatâs when I really got busy to prepare for no electricity ⌠across the globe. As in no help is coming. Pretty much the worse case scenario.
I see it happening from the Sun, as an act of God, and for good reason. Merging humans to machines? Experimenting on the entire human population even against peopleâs will? Killing and maiming babies as a matter of public policy? Routine manipulation of human behavior? Perpetual war? AI take over of the human race? I donât see how any of this turns out well for humanity. We need a Great Reset alright, but it might not be what the Oligarchs have in mind.
As for my prepping on the homestead, we have some basics covered that would buy us time to adapt; we have fruit trees, some nut trees, and some wild food like grapes, blackberries, and mushrooms. We have enough stored dried food to get through a growing season or two, and we have a hand pump for water. Plus Iâve got my get-home bag with a few little handy items.
Lately, Iâve been working on me as my current prep. I finished my 7 day juice fast and 3 day water fast successfully. I went 75 hours on water and some other liquids with less than 100 calories/day. I broke the fast correctly. I never thought I could fast like this, and I could have water fasted longer, and I want to do it again!
The body has an innate ability to heal itself; a little autophagy is quite restorative.
I donât think the lone wolf, find an ultra secluded spot to ride out the disaster alone is the right course of action. Maybe for the initial 30-60 days, but there is strength in numbers and no way people are going to survive on their own in the worse case scenario, a global grid down. I think people will be forced to unite for self protection. The sooner people organize the sooner safety and security returns to civilization.
A great book to read on this very subject, fiction, but very realistic is One Second After. Itâs a great read and there are some follow up books too.
With exponential increasing pace of change and threats, prepping seems like a never ending story. Is there ever enough? I still feel badly prepped and feel like a baby learning new practical skills. But when i look back i have made the strategic relocation from city geek to area of queensland where many neighbours are communities of permaculture and syntropic agroforestry with food forests. I have done the courses with them and contribute to a food forest. I have been collecting enough rainwater the last 2 years i live off grid and have recently tested my new mad max offgrid mobile home. Even been adopted by local tribe to tap into many thousand years of survival skills.
On recent trip to indonesia, I even picked up new project with villagers there building food forest in river valley half way up volcano on island that might be useful getaway.
I have pivoted my tech work from city cyber to earthworks and designed my first earthship homes. I even pivoted my spiritually from contemplation to building beauty and right relations in eco resorts with geodesic designs that rebalance our derranged left brain minds through cardiognosis as in my friends article Consciousness, Culture, and Cardiognosis
But residual geekiness might still be there in this - forgive my mania here just chucking a few broader non practical speculative perspectives into the mix - in my geeky indulgance trying to bridge worlds of prepping, spiritual war and new era of tech progress. I have recently found the new biology of paradigm shifting Dr Michael Levin https://youtu.be/LTBZRVKUwyM?si=b37J1mo-GtXR0n9V (or better https://youtu.be/Lzf0HOfC86c?si=fuxQAEUpGJ3mV7bJ ) who use bioelectric fields to nurture the autonomous agency of organic life itself. He seems to offer new types of causality more like top down holistic homeostasis to goals than bottom up localised mechanistic causality. His bioelectric patterns draw on platonic forms and logos and the paradigm shift substantiates spiritual philosophical shifts. His success influencing intelligence in cellular life might provide concrete evidential bridge to neoplatonic philosopher attempts to reduce or reverse AI atrophy risks of human decisioning and meaning making from our increased outsourcing to AI. This substantiates human centred groups like oxfordâs cosmos institute https://cosmos-institute.org/ or vervaeke https://youtu.be/iwOJ9PWcPmo. If generalised, it substantiates the cosmic principles (dharma, lore, logos , whatever) including those embedded by locals in balinese food forest in sacred river gorge.
I post my broader perspectives mixing breakthrough biological science with ancient knowledge here because I am curious if I can bridge back from my new life in food forests and indigenous/eastern side of our spiritual war to our modern cultural crisis and existential risks with AI. I am curious if i can replicate Levin successes in my food forests to substantiate broader perspectives of causality and our psycho- cultural - spiritual crisis. Is it feasible to prove levinâs bioelectic experiments in say tree resin production before proving bioelectric experiments in ecoresort bioarchitecture and cardiognosis to lend credence to broader perspectives of intelligence and wisdom that might ameliorate our atrophy. Certainly my own simplification of our atrophy problem to hemispheric imbalance of mcgilchrist and heart centredness of tribal elders can be seen as an extension of cosmos institutes philosphical AI builder mitigation of atrophy in self autonomous determination. Neoplatonic logos is similar to buddhist/hindu dharma, indigenous lore and sufi kalima/aql-al-awwal.
For example, in my network we have big 100m + usd agarwood plantation in sulawesi where a certain mold stimulates production of the most expensive natural product, oud oil, loved by arabs. But unfortunately the mold kills the trees causing costly long cycle times. We previously introduced oz ethnobotanists and conventional biotech companies to help improve practices. This might be ideal context to experiment and prove new biological paradigms that scale to regenerate life and cultural practices. Any improvement to resin production, mold containment or tree survival from applying Dr Levin insights would have huge value so might warrant a grant.
What could be more fitting application area for exploring and safely maturing the new field of diverse collective intelligence and emergent agency than learning to communicate and ethically relate to arboreal and eukaryotic fungi beings in whatever spacetime they embody to relate to the âwood of godsâ that scented the corpse of christ, to share gifts of âbuddha oilâ through bioelectric interfaces of mutual respect and understanding, where non local non temporal attunement to cosmic purposes and principles subsumes control and death through the mechanistic causes of traditional extractive harvesting.
Curious about broader potentials, and other possibilities in food forest such as medicinal products and beyond. I am still a baby in country prepper world but a curious baby.
After two complete listenings through, all I can do is nod in agreement on the points made, and shake my head along with Chris and Nate about what other people are doing.
The psychological side of this all was interesting. Didnât know that Nate has an academic background in this. That there has been so much pushback and mocking of preppers is well explained by it being a defense mechanism by some people knowing deep down that they need to be doing this too, but arenât.
@cmartenson says land needs roads - in wooded hills of W Mass, thatâs probably true. However, in most of the breadbasket plains, where a lot of the land is naturally grass, you donât need to make roads, just stream crossings, even in steep âdry gulliesâ. As Nate says, use the time we have to do things we canât do after crashes. Buy culvert materials and use your equipment to put crossings where you will need them. The roads can wait. And be careful of your DNR. They donât like farmers managing their own land.
What Iâd say is more important is perimeter fences - and for large acreages >100, fencing is a big pain! If your perimeter is steep and rocky, itâs hard to sink posts. A place many old farmers put access cuts in wooded areas was just inside the fence just wide enough to drive fencing equipment - also much less fence maintenance as trees up to the fence destroy your fences. In the Driftless area (WI/MN/IA) there are rough, wooded hills where we needed the horses to chase cattle, but, other than the small streams, you could drive a truck/tractor almost anywhere.
Put in your stream crossings first. Then if you are in an area where brush, not grass, is the natural growth, you will have to knock down the brush. Not much need to put in a formal road. In the 50âs, local ag agents taught farmers to grass seed their field access âroadsâ each spring to prevent erosion (and it keeps weeds and brush down). Itâs common practice now, and some farmers bail a good amount of hay from the âfield roadsâ.
70 years ago, before monocropping, farmers pastured All Fields before and after crops. The perimeter had to be fenced. I notice now that there are few cattle outside feedlots. During covid, when fertilizer was a problem, all the people my age said - get the feed lot cattle out now and then in the fall harvest quick and pasture the fields. Then we looked and there were no longer fences along roads. Some were simply lying there unmaintained, but totally useless. In other areas, the road fence had been carefully removed so the farmer could plow all the way to the road RoW and then access via the public road, instead of a non-planted access trail between the corn & the fence.
In order to survive, you will need animals (bigger than chickens) on your land. Decide where the most important fences will be needed and start now. Iâve seen some really good electric perimeter fences on smaller acreages (<100 probably <50). If youâre going to do that you will need solar AND Batteries to keep them running after the AIâs commandeer all the power.
I hadnât considered that Barbara but I agree roads are not universally good recommendations.
Its not that I disagree totally with the general thesis, its more of, it depends, its area specific and thus deeper considerations are needed.
For instance one of my pastures that borders the wooded, entrace road to the property has nasty undergrowth on the wooded side of the electric fence. Including hundreds of small cedars and pines and worse of all, multiflora rose (an invasive species that has particularily nasty thorns. It was advised that i clear all of this out in order to push a perimeter road/path for good access to the other side of the fence for maintenance, fallen trees, etc.
Nah ill deal with trees and thorns but its exactly where I dont want a road. Its an inpenetrable, natural barrier in addition to the electric fence and its going to stay for now.
There are other, more open parts of the property that could be a concern but someone would have to cross multiple adjoining land owners and steep terrain. I dont mind pushing a road there. In actuality its just re-opening an old one.
If one of my lines abutted public land, was near an interstate county road, a river, smaller lots or adjoined a known, problematic neighbor then I wouldnt want a road even close to that line fence. Maybe on a hill overlooking it but not a direct path going from the potential problem to my inner sanctum.
Same thing with a river or lake. They can be a barrier or an easy pathway to your property. It just depends.
Furthermore, I enjoy the natural wooded beauty of the land. Cutting multiple trees and having roads zigzagging everywhere would destroy that for me. I realize that wasnât what Chris meant with roads but some I know go way overboard with them and subsequently will have to deal with all the associated maintenance and exposure they create.
Another potential problem is utility easements, particularily overhead electric service from the county road up to the buildings. This is my weak spot. Its a direct path to the heart with no gate. A path that is constantly maintained and kept clear of trees and sprayed for vegetation by the power company. Im in the early stages of demanding they put up a gate where it enters but any obstacles or impediments that I placed after that would get removed by the power company.
I may just have to look at it as the funnel of least resistance and therefore with all the other barriers, the most likely path any intruder would take. Consequently in some shtf scenario or even just poachers or trespassers, then resources can be applied there more robustly. Recognizing this early on, a cell trail cam is already placed there. The big benefit is no vehicle short of a dirt bike is climbing it and even there theyâd have to pass 4 or 5 neighbors in the process. It can be walked but barely so. Its a beast but i immagine for those in flatter terrain its going to be a much larger problem.
One other side benefit is that it makes a nice flat hilltop to hilltop path for 400 yard steel silouttes. Ping!
Im sure they wont be happy when they find it but its tucked off to the far side, its my property and theyâll just have to deal with it. Or I might even agree to take it down (temporarily) if they put that gate I want up. Haha.
I very much enjoy Nateâs insights. He also has great ideas on the global political goings on. I donât always agree with him 100% but he makes me think a lot and I appreciate that.
I like Canadian Prepper, I watch a lot of his youtube videos. But I do find him just a BIT hysterical and I must say I am surprised that Chris M. is featuring Nate on PeakProsperity. A place where I pay $30 a month for content. I am just Surprised at this.
I thought the same thing. Nate is OK. He clearly knows his stuff, but definitely a little over the top sometimes and leaning towards fear porn and click bait. I tend to stay away from that sh*t, but to each their own I guess.
Canadian Prepper has had to change the nature of the content as YT has changed. While not my favorite preparedness and prepping creator, he covers the basics and higher level prepping topics well. Not everyone has been exposed to this body of information.
Preparedness is increasingly adjacent to the content and interests of the Peak audience, as the Peak content is to Canadian Preppers audience.
An important thing to consider is that not everyone at Peak is here for exactly the same reasons, and everyone comes with different knowledge sets. Being exposed to various points of interest through interviews and collaborative content is a value add, brings in new subscribers, and forum participants and viewing any given video or post/thread is optional.
Coincidentally my friend has just been accepted to do a phd in agentic emergence from ML algorithms, spookily much like levin work on intelligent competency emergence from bubble sort algorithms.
We have been sharing ideas on rigorous scientific protocols to mitigate the multidimensional embodiment data space of logos and counter skeptism we share to frontier science.
His family has vast library of sanskrit ancient texts they translated, so no doubt his bigger picture framing for diverse emergent intelligences will be vedic equivalent of neoplatonic logos that might be convenient in moving from lab to balinese food forest where chimeras and devas are well known.
So I am looking for expertise in filamentous fungi like Phialophora (sac or club fungi) and their complex hyphal networks or resin biosynthesis pathways in Aquilaria to see if my high value oud context for a focused research project is even feasible. Seems high risk but i always say if it is not impossible, why bother.
Levinâs team work with slime molds and do not seem to work with secondary metabolic pathways so far. I just brought it up here cos it is fascinating and relevant to substantiate broader psycho- spiritual- culture tech world my prepper steps have taken me into and because levin work at tufts uni is so cool.
For more scientific levin talk at Cambridge University see https://youtu.be/sX1hIvq_xPg?si=oEOX5hAygHcMcHvz. ( I have some memory of basics from a cell biology and biophysics course there.)
If my food forest application proves beyond western science then I might have to leave it to the alien diverse intelligence community - but eerily levin work on multidimensional embodiment of diverse intelligence seems to also make sense from the other mob work perspective on diverse alien intelligence as in alchemists and new agers at https://youtu.be/92FlTyhcf_c?si=PzIxSxcumiYz_loa.
I keep running into diverse mobs since stepping out city into prepper world. With recent unveiling and collapse you cant rule out aliens - even if it looks like the new agers might be missing a few levin diverse intelligence cards from their deck of diverse alien intelligences. So extending levin to explain alien intelligence might even explain the funny business i seemed to attract passing messages between the lore keepers from uluru of the seven sisters songline and the kings in se asia and nighttime visits from cetaceans when camped next to estuary river banks. Aliens or pioneering biologists - its all the same to me these days as a baby prepper stepping into the fontiers beyond.