Epstein's Suicide: Evidence or Evasion?

As a evangelical Christian, I would say they are connected because they are anti-Christian. They are all working to replace Western values with something else in order to bring down “Western Culture” and the Christianity that brought it about. Some have even suggested the use of MRNa vs Non MRNA Covid vaccines aligns with this thinking. I am not convinced as of yet.

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Especially after Chris’s excellent, clear analysis, it seems absolutely frigging obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells between their ears that Epstein didn’t kill himself. But even before seeing Chris’s analysis (and I’m really not dissing your analysis, Chris), it seemed pretty blimmin’ obvious that Epstein didn’t kill himself.

So it seems that whoever was behind it either didn’t care that it was pretty blimmin’ obvious or actually wanted everyone to think it’s pretty blimmin’ obvious (I discount that they were actually that incompetent that they were really trying to cover it up and were simply unable to do a better job – I think people that incompetent don’t manage to get in such mega positions of power, and don’t have half the world trying to cover it up for them).

If they didn’t care that it was pretty blimmin’ obvious, then I guess they might be demonstrating their power or trying to warn someone or some group of people to stay in line (e.g. government, politicians, police or other institutional groups) – can anyone think of other possible reasons I haven’t thought of?

If they wanted everyone to think that it was pretty blimmin’ obvious, then it seems like they might have been covering something else up that was going on at the same kind of time by distracting media attention to the Epstein case (what else was or was possibly going on that was worthy of being covered up at the time of Epstein’s death, and what is or might be going on now? – Or can anyone think of any other reasons why whoever was behind it might want everyone to think that it’s pretty blimmin’ obvious Epstein didn’t kill himself?)

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My first thought, if I was in a position like Patel and Bongino and they were threatening to do stuff to my family if I didn’t say what they were telling me me to say, is that I’d simply resign and avoid further comments to the press. But maybe they threaten them not to try to resign their way out of it. If the latter was the case, though, I personally might try to feign a debilitating illness and drop out that way.

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Epstein was a narcissist and would not have killed himself in so degrading a fashion. He would have known that there would be photos lasting into perpetuity of his naked soiled dead butt and bloated face. No one wants to be remembered that way.

Now if they found him in a 3 piece suit with manicured nails and a crown on, I’d be willing to reconsider.

There is something fitting though that a man who used girls and women like disposable kleenexes, valuable only for their bodies, should have such a death. Usual blah blah blah about not condoning murder, but still.

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It’s going to get a LOT stranger

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Epstein was perhaps the most high profile prisoner since Lee Harvey Oswald.

So what doe that mean? Think it through.

In such a situation - especially after Oswald’s death - the persons responsible for running the jail pull out all stops to makes absolutely sure that Epstein doesn’t die on their watch.

The jailers, as well as their superiors, don’t - under any circumstances - want the finger of accusation pointed at them. Protecting Epstein’s life becomes their highest priority. One would expect those repsonsible to redirect resources to prevent Epstein’s death on their watch.

So what happens?

Epstein dies on their watch.

Multiple security cameras go out, multiple guards fall asleep on job and so on.

And there is nothing suspicious here?

And Kash expects us to believe this?

Really?

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Agreed. To me, this murder scene is similar to the PA shooting. They didn’t seem to care about the obvious clues left lying around. I think they are so powerful that they don’t care what anyone thinks. Patel and the other guy looked/sounded frightened.

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Bongino was being honest when he said “he saw the file.”

“The file” just happened to be his, with lots of photos of his kids, wife, and an indication of what would be found on his hard-drive after one or more of them had been unalived horribly.

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I would not put CCP aka China in that listing. Big changes happening there going back decades regarding the faith and free market progress. Not as strong as the Orthodox in Russia but not the CCP of old. Attached is a great documentary from years ago.

I have been thinking since Trump began appointing neocon after neocon that they have threatened his grandkids.

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People still wearing a Trump hat or flying his flag are interchangeable with these people. I see no integrity, intelligence or patriotism in either. Absolute mouthbreathers.

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I think back to the Reagan years. I liked him as a president even though i was very young. Bush was the vp ex head of cia. Clinton governor where drugs were coming through. All complicit. Ollie north and such. Then bush then clinton then bush again. Policies were very similar. All pro war. Then Obama. Obama had protections for whistleblowers and some good ideas. Many bad but some good ones too. Soon as he got in all bad. No protection for whistleblowers. Obomacare protected insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies. No bankruptcies for college debt.

And yet this time i was hopeful. Ive been let down all my life by politicians. But this time would be different. Patel day 1 Epstein list released. Dan Bongino, of all people, truly believed him to be a man of character beyond reproach. Nope. Tulsi has even flip flopped a bit. Rfk making waves which i support, but also walking the line.

My question is does it matter who is elected? Do any of them start with good intentions? Are they that compromised by the time they get to that level they can be controlled? Is the deep state able to threaten them to the point they will just knuckle under?

I ask, if you were in there position what would it take for you to knuckle under? Some would do it for money. Absolutely. Some, maybe threaten everyone you love.

I just dont know how do people flip flop this badly. And has the train left the station where we can ever reverse this?

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On a different slant. Thats why Citizens United is fundamentally incorrect. A corp doesn’t care if you kill off its associates. In fact it often does it itself.

With rumours of it trying to jail break itself, AI becomes interesting. Otherwise it just a fast, sophisticated and comprehensive way of sorting thru what its fed.

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I think Kari Lake did this… when she recorded being told “powerful people wanted her to hold off running for governor” she said they would have to kill her to stop her… “still waiting on WHO these powerful people were… names please? Mr. GOP chair…”

here is a hypothesis:

I suspect instead of you “maybe you are brave and willing to risk it” but they credibly threaten to go after whatever you love and can’t protect instead… spouse, kids, grandkids, parents, dog, prize roses whatever…

This becomes more problematic as its likely no where on earth you could hide them, if they can regularly get Russian Generals in Moscow where and who cant they get?

but to more your point

stare them down like a Western gunfight in the middle of the street?

if someone comes to send you such a message… you probably have 3 choices…
a. capitulate or
b. ignore them and face the consequences “Mitch?”
c. “convince” the person sending the message to “reveal” who is sending the message and go have a little visit with that source and then rinse and repeat through the middle men until you root out the original source…

how possible possible or likely or legal c. would be with little or no time no resources and no extraordinary powers seems problematic to say the least…

The president has extraordinary powers and extra legal powers likely these would have to be stretched to the limit or beyond to do c. as well as a panic button and “Seal team 6?” set up to do it and handle it before hand…if they were not expecting or ready for it Sun Tzu would advise to give ground…

Again after the total global control during covid I don’t think Trump still really understands who he is up against or the game he is playing… and likely neither do Kash or Dan… maybe they just got educated or maybe they caved for good :frowning:

I mean we are talking about people that operated a child sex island AND likely planned and pushed hard to jab 99.999% of the humans on earth 10+ times with artery clogging, sterilizing spike, immune crashing HIV inserts and SV40 cancer turbo… including women, children and babies… there really are no limits to how far they will go…:frowning:

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Control files. They work.

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Pray. Be the light of Christ in the world extending grace, loving your neighbor as yourself, loving your enemy.

Rom 12:17 (ESV) Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it[i] to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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I look at the picture of the long cloth “rope” under the sink in Epstein’s cell which Chris said was cut on the left side of the picture and torn on the lower two ends of the photo… it seems to me what Chris said was cut was actually just a fold.

Also could the whole long rope be tied around the top bed in the middle so that it hangs right in the middle of the lower bed?

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Is it possible they indeed have been threatened and have agreed to back off this direct attack on the intelligence/blob straight out of the gate? Instead they’re choosing to live another day and focused on developing evidence that holds up in court as Ed Martin was telling Tucker? Glenn Beck is expressing similar frustrations as expressed here at PP but willing to extend a (finite) grace period.
Surely there are legacies of Merrick Garland’s DOJ that they can expose and ideally result in (former) federal officials going to prison. Biden coverups, Trump assassination lapses, FBI sitting on and quashing Hunter laptop, etc., etc., – lots of material that does not as directly expose and threaten the blob.

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Agree - it almost seems in your face too sloppy and too implausible daring anybody to question otherwise. Nothing to see here, capisce?

I don’t think Epstein killed himself. However, I also don’t think Epstein was the one in charge of the operation. I think it was Ghislaine Maxwell who really ran the pedo-blackmail show. I am also not going to call either Bongino not Patel liars because I haven’t seen whatever evidence they are privy to.

Bottom line is that our trust in our institutions has been so damaged that even if we are being told the truth about many things we/I wouldn’t believe it. The truth is never what is shown to the public. They are always holding back important information.

Just my opinion.

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