As @resiliencerob correctly pointed out, we can’t even get a large enough number of people to withdraw consent from the system. If we can’t get to the low bar of doing things that are completely legal and unquestionable moral, how do you think there will be a significant number of people willing to take more extreme action? TPTB have successfully neutered the general population.
My current plan is to keep building the world I want to live in, within the teeny tiny areas that I have agency.
Unless you are Samwise Gamgee. In which case you totally kick ass.
These are wonderful ideals, but remember that Martin Luther King Jr also was a big promoter of ideals. If you are a normal person living a normal life and you let your desire for peace allow a force of nature to run over your life, you’ll just be forgotten, not a role model for the future.
There are legitimate forms of self defense, I’m not arguing that at all. I do believe in the right to bear arms, but I’m not a “gun person.”
I had an extensive conversation with my husband Don, about this (he does like guns). We are devout Roman Catholics, so we have to adhere to official Church teaching. It seems the Church may not have a specific teaching about when the govt actively works against its people. His opinion…
Individual vigilantism is generally wrong. However, it is the state’s duty to protect its citizens. If it completely fails in this, the citizens have a right to essentially form an alternative govt. The criminals must have been convicted through a legal process before justice is meted out. It is a form of societal self defense. Self defense is always morally permissible, but the Church says you have to be immediately threatened. Defense of an innocent who is imminently threatened is also permissible, and in most cases, a duty probably. There has been debate among pro lifers about taking out abortionists, though the general consensus is that it is not a good idea, and happens quite rarely.
Don said it is like if you have a community in the wilderness where there is no govt. The West has become a wilderness perhaps.
However, just because something is acceptable, does not mean it is a good idea. I contend we are being provoked to violence so they can crack down harder.
Man arrested and fined for collecting rainwater on his property in Oregon! As you may know, Oregon’s a communist state.
I am a huge fan of spending time reasoning such things out before the decision point is pressed upon you to decide in an instant.
Looks like somebody needs to get busy on Killdozer2.
We just received our AZ primary ballots in MI… I don’t believe either state is delivering the list of voters. Now these are the uncompleted ballots, so I don’t know how it will go after they are completed and mailed back to AZ.
So she knows about the so called trafficking rings and somehow has evidence of such crimes and yet she did NOTHING. She herself belongs in the same cell block as everyone else. It pisses me off that these MF’s have so called evidence, will testify in front of a congressional committee, and then do NOTHING. All these creatures deserve the gallows.
Absolutely!
I think that’s also why there’s a concerted effort to pit the police and citizens against each other. The more bullshit laws get enacted that police are required to enforce, and the more expensive any infractions are, the more likely the view of law enforcement is diminished.
Unfortunately, I have learned several new things about the movie “Citizen Vigilante:”
The director is a “non-Jewish” holocaust exaggerator (Movie Auschwitz)
The owners of the studio producing it, Quiver, are Jewish
The main actor is “half-Jewish” and is a socialist/communist whose father (the Jewish half) founded the Communist Party of New York.
https://x.com/VladTheInflator/status/2071463256011715036?s=20
https://x.com/Gentilenewsnet/status/2071263088016265216?s=20
https://x.com/benwehrman/status/2070137436286628035?s=20
https://x.com/TruthTo1777148/status/2071244447854014672?s=20
Islam is the broom that the Jews use to sweep Europe free of Christianity. This follow from the speech of Chabad hero, Rabbi David Touitou in his 2013 lecture concerning the conditions needed for the coming of the Jewish Messiah. You can hear some of them here.
“The Messiah will only appear once Europe and Christianity are totally destroyed… Is it good news that Islam invades Europe? It is excellent news! Islam is the broom of Israel.” He uses “balai d’Israël” (broom of Israel) directly.
The elements of the takeover:
Consider this scene from RoboCop 2:
The policeman has been programmed with a myriad of trivial rules that distort his perspective on enforcement and what amount of force is appropriate. The result is nonsense. Including “No smoking”
Here is a very moderate reply to the issues of Citizen Vigilante
Why the uproar over Citizen Vigilante.
My neighbor is Sunni Muslim. Great guy. Over a beer (yes he drinks beer) I asked what is up with all the raping. His response shook me.
There are Muslim cultures that adhere to strict sharia law and will never integrate with western culture. He said “the 12ers” are the most radical.
Term definition from Google AI: The “Twelvers” (or Ithna Ashariyya) are the largest branch of Shia Islam. Twelvers represent the majority of the Shia population worldwide and are the predominant group in Iran, Iraq, Bahrain, and Azerbaijan
In these sects of Islam (not all) the male is dominant. Women and Children are lower beings and non Muslim women and children are not even viewed as persons. So if this Muslim man sees someone not fully covered up and has a sexual urge - they have no concept of consent. They don’t even understand why someone would have the right to resist their urge. So if their advance is rebuffed, they take it. This is not viewed as a crime. There is a scene in the movie Citizen Vigilante that perfectly encapsulates this.
I asked what is the solution and added if someone did that to my daughter, they would be dead by sunset. That shit would not fly in America.
He said, don’t let them in. They will never integrate.
So understand the horror you may feel behind this film is founded in citizens that feel betrayed by the complicit government and subsequent law enforcement that aids and abets this invasion for political purposes. It is the citizen that notices that is persecuted as a racist, etc. This will result in a viral expansion of vigilante activity and the leaders have no one to blame but themselves.
Remigration is the moderate solution with the least amount of bloodshed.
This is just a fact.
The vigilante film is not about encouraging justice at all.
Provocation to violence is highly likely and a trap to excuse martial law. It is hardly surprising that producers, actors etc for the film have connection to ruling elite. Encouraging violence also takes attention away from elites and divides the population like the “rats in a cage” analogy.
I like Jimmy Dore’s approach of union-like strikes to withhold essential services to the pedophile criminal class. This is the sort of revolution we need, not a violent one.
Just like the Canadian truckers protest, I love Dore’s approach as it could gain public appeal and cripple the criminals who subvert democracy to achieve their goals.
Our goal of course is to “strike” in ways that affect control systems and money supply for the criminals more than the public.
I am sure there are plenty of ways to make their lives miserable without resorting to violence, not just for the criminal class, but for those who provide services for them.
A good starting point would be power or water for data centers as they are already fantastically unpopular. For example, anyone who helps to service data centers could be black-listed and locked out of restaurants, shops and other services. This is legal and there is nothing authorities could do to stop it, but it does require publicity from groups with social media following. Joe Rogan would be good, but I am sure there are others.
It is also fair game to use the same systems promoted for the public against the elite.
For example, dropping boxes of alphagal ticks in Bill Gate’s neighborhood seems reasonable.
Or “safe and effective” for the the likes of Fauci, Collins, Gates or Farrar. If mRNA salad greens are alright for the public, then they are certainly fine for Gates’ children. Bill would love this as his children need to be protected also. They shouldn’t miss out.
It might only be one in a hundred of the population that would support this non-violent tough approach, but is the idea that something might be introduced at any moment to make the lives of the authorities miserable. And it shouldn’t just be for the super elite but for sycophant politicians who are the obedient lap dogs.
We should not forget past actions. “Dame” Jacinda Ardhern was so unpopular that she had to leave New Zealand. They didn’t care about locking the population down. About time they were locked down also.
I posted this in another thread, but here seems more relevent and in keeping with the themed comments.
@dotmatrix I appreciate your thought process, and is a thoughtful antedote to my initial thought pattern.
Eva Vlaardingerbroek would be great ambassador for Jimmy Dore’s approach. There has to be a cost to the elite for their actions - not just protests that have no teeth.
Good on Karl Stephanovic! It’s amazing how these moderates are labelled as “far right extremists” when the pedophile class who accuse these people are literally corrupt criminal collectivists.
Agree totally, you have great ideas, sounds like you need to be a community leader!
That harvard story is super racist.
Unfortunately sometimes violence IS the answer. I am in no way advocating for violence at this point but if you look back in history sometimes good people have to do bad thing for good to prevail.
People by nature are NOT good beings. We are, at best, self interested and at worst downright evil. True altruism is exceedingly rare. We have people doing supposedly good works online for clicks and youtube checks but how many people do good when no one even knows? Not many.
Most people are a mix of good and evil and how they behave in society is because of that percentage. Some people only behave because of fear of punishment and once that fear is gone look out. There are some in our society willing to do horrible things for their beliefs and they don’t care that you advocate for peace. They will kill the peaceful just the same as they will kill those of us that resist.
War hurts everyone, military and civilian alike. For the military participants that survive it physically unscathed I think it damages your soul. This is something I think about and try and make up for in what I do with volunteer firefighting/EMT.
Hopefully when my time comes I will have made up for it. However, if my family was in danger tomorrow I would do what I had to do when I had to do it and then go back to eating a donut without a second thought. That is reality.
