How The Federal Reserve Is Purposely Attacking Savers

[Comment:No surprise there. Ted Bundy never acknowledged the harm he caused either.]
JCD: If I were able to ask the kind of questions that are being asked, one would be, “Are you thinking about all those victims and their families that are so wounded? Years later, their lives aren’t normal. They will never be normal. Is there remorse?”

Ted: I know people will accuse me of being self-serving, but through God’s help, I have been able to come to the point, much too late, where I can feel the hurt and the pain I am responsible for. Yes. Absolutely!

 

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davefairtexWhile I agree that since the E Dollar would cause paper dollars to go extinct the underground economy would find another medium of exchange.  And I would agree that would probably be precious metals.  That said I think the underground economy would shrink.  
Most Americans, lower through upper middle class, try to live by the rules, as eluded to in Chris's article.  I think the next monetary shift, to the E Dollar or some other system will come with it a clamp down in gold and silver.  I may have the conviction to not turn my stack into the authorities but I don't think I would start transacting in it.  My willingness to take that kind of a risk has its limits.  
Take for instance a holder of gold in 1933.  Under Executive order 6102 you faced the penalty of 10 years in prison and or $10,000 fine (that's $625,000 today) for just holding gold.  If you wanted to be ballsy I could see burying your stash, but I don't see running a black market in gold.
Again the E Dollar fixes many of the debt problems, at least from the governments perspective, and though many on this site would not be happy the average American will not bat an eye. 

 You stated: "many families lost their homes and farms from the inability to pay property taxes"
That's one reason why I have property and a farm in Costa Rica: property tax: 0.25%, plus the weather is GREAT!

Also, with all the talk about gains being taxed, why not do as the wealthy do: buy tax-free municipals,as part of your portfolio.  True, the value could go down but with the tax-free quarterly payments you'd probably beat that aspect over time. I've not heard a word about this is in all I have read so far. Am I off here?

Have fun

 
Baltimore, Maryland  October 21, 2014
 
Peter Coyne
Dear Reader, Jim Rickards was in Austin, Texas, by way of Nashville, Tennessee, when his call came through... "A former White House communications director," Jim explained to me, "said that you know that your work is having an impact when other people are talking about it." Hold that thought... We set up today's reckoning -- our friend Richard Duncan's forecast for QE4 -- in yesterday's episode. A timely opportunity to stir the pot, however, has led us to postpone that plan until tomorrow or Thursday.
 
We’re talking bioimplants… capital controls… neofascism… currency collapses and rebirths…
Instead, we're going to give you an exclusive look at Jim Rickards' provocative first article with Agora Financial. It was featured in issue No. 1 of Strategic Intelligence, Jim's newsletter. It's called "In the Year 2024." The piece is an economic and political thought experiment (we stress "thought experiment") based in the year 2024 and written through Jim's eyes. It's shocking… dystopian… and generating a little bit of a buzz on the Interwebs. Buzz, we suspect, that will mushroom after we publish it on our website in a few minutes.  It makes Mad Max looks like a Peanuts special. We're talking bioimplants… capital controls… neofascism… currency collapses and rebirths… stock market panics… asset freezes… wealth destruction… extreme egalitarian policies…  Here's one fellow's Twitter reaction:
 
Rickards Retweet
 
 
Naturally, gloomy, doomy statements make people shift in their seat… or call BS… or both. So when one of our colleagues sent us an ArabianMoney blog post entitled"All the World's Gold to Be Confiscated and Buried in Switzerland by 2020, Argues Jim Rickards," we weren't too surprised. ArabianMoney, which we recommend checking out, is written by Peter Cooper, an insightful financial commentator based in the United Arab Emirates. We've frequently featured him in these pages. He was also a regular and popular speaker at our annual Vancouver Investment Symposium.  Long-suffering reckoners will remember our founder Addison Wiggin and our own Chris Mayer traveling to Dubai to meet Mr. Cooper and survey the investment climate there in 2009.
 
“Has the normally sober and thoughtful Mr. Rickards lost his marbles?”
Needless to say, we respect Peter's opinion. When he says something we do is "too wacky," we sit up and recheck our work. "Has the normally sober and thoughtful Mr. Rickards lost his marbles?" asks Cooper in his review of Jim's article. According to Mr. Cooper, the line Jim draws between prediction and fiction isn't clear enough. "How do you know what is a 'thought experiment,'" asks Cooper, "and what is meant to be taken as the truth? As the opening article of a new newsletter, it seemed well off beam. I still don't actually get the point he was trying to make. "However," Mr. Cooper concludes, "within all these visionary tales, there is usually more than a grain of truth, or a few grams of real gold." "My '2024' piece," Jim explained to us, "was actually meant to be highly realistic. Most of the elements are already here. "Larry Summers wants negative interest rates... Thomas Piketty and the IMF do want global wealth taxation and redistribution... Police are already using tollbooth scanners to interdict people in flight.
 
“Cash is almost obsolete… The rule of law is being disregarded every day.”
"Sensor implants are here… Cash is almost obsolete…. The rule of law is being disregarded every day. The 10-year plan for special drawing rights has already been published.... Swiss army mountain fortresses are being converted into gold vaults… "The only fictional part," Jim went on, "is threading it all together and thinking of a market panic big enough to be used as cover for extreme government action." The name politicians ramrodding such a dystopian future into place use, Jim explains, is "shock doctrine," derived from Naomi Klein's eponymous book. Jim has a second article by that name in his debut Strategic Intelligenceissue as well. "The idea," he told us, "is you use a shock as an excuse to roll out a preplanned agenda that may have nothing to do with the triggering event. The elites are just waiting for a scared population to push their agenda." That said, you're best off forming your own opinion on the matter. Read on for Jim Rickards' "In the Year 2024"... Then send us comments, questions or the business, here:peter@dailyreckoning.com[Ed. note: We closed access to Jim's Strategic Intelligence last week. Word is we will be reopening it soon. However, since we dangled topics from Jim's debut issue, I'm willing to make an exception today if you haven't joined up yet. There's no long-winded video or lengthy letter to read. Just an easy-to-fill-out form. Click here to join now.]
 
 
 
 
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The Daily Reckoning Presents... "The following article," says Jim Rickards, editor of Strategic Intelligence, "describes a fictional dystopia in the spirit of Brave New World or 1984. It is not a firm forecast or prediction in the usual analytic sense. Instead, it is intended to provide warning and encourage readers to be alert to dangerous trends in society, some of which are already in place." Read on... ******************************
 
In the Year 2024 Jim Rickards writing from the future on Sunday, Oct. 13, 2014
 
by Jim Rickards
 
James Rickards
As I awoke this morning, Sunday, Oct. 13, 2024, from restless dreams, I found the insect-sized sensor implanted in my arm was already awake. We call it a "bug." U.S. citizens have been required to have them since 2022 to access government health care. The bug knew from its biometric monitoring of my brain wave frequencies and rapid eye movement that I would awake momentarily. It was already at work launching systems, including the coffee maker. I could smell the coffee brewing in the kitchen. The information screens on the inside of my panopticon goggles were already flashing before my eyes. Images of world leaders were on the screen. They were issuing proclamations about the fine health of their economies and the advent of world peace. Citizens, they explained, needed to work in accordance with the New World Order Growth Plan to maximize wealth for all. I knew this was propaganda, but I couldn't ignore it. Removing your panopticon goggles is viewed with suspicion by the neighborhood watch committees. Your "bug" controls all the channels.
 
My work now is only historical, because markets were abolished after the Panic of 2018.
I'm mostly interested in economics and finance, as I have been for decades. I've told the central authorities that I'm an economic historian, so they've given me access to archives and information denied to most citizens in the name of national economic security. My work now is only historical, because markets were abolished after the Panic of 2018. That was not the original intent of the authorities. They meant to close markets "temporarily" to stop the panic, but once the markets were shut, there was no way to reopen them without the panic starting again. Today, trust in markets is completely gone. All investors want is their money back. Authorities started printing money after the Panic of 2008, but that solution stopped working by 2018. Probably because so much had been printed in 2017 under QE7. When the panic hit, money was viewed as worthless. So markets were simply closed. Between 2018–20, the Group of 20 major powers, the G-20, abolished all currencies except for the dollar, the euro and the ruasia. The dollar became the local currency in North and South America. Europe, Africa and Australia used the euro. The ruasia was the only new currency — a combination of the old Russian ruble, Chinese yuan and Japanese yen — and was adopted as the local currency in Asia.
 
There is also new world money called special drawing rights, or SDRs for short.
There is also new world money called special drawing rights, or SDRs for short. They're used only for settlements between countries, however. Everyday citizens use the dollar, euro or ruasia for daily transactions. The SDR is also used to set energy prices and as a benchmark for the value of the three local currencies. The World Central Bank, formerly the IMF, administers the SDR system under the direction of the G-20. As a result of the fixed exchange rates, there's no currency trading. All of the gold in the world was confiscated in 2020 and placed in a nuclear bomb-proof vault dug into the Swiss Alps. The mountain vault had been vacated by the Swiss army and made available to the World Central Bank for this purpose. All G-20 nations contributed their national gold to the vault. All private gold was forcibly confiscated and added to the Swiss vault as well. All gold mining had been nationalized and suspended on environmental grounds. The purpose of the Swiss vault was not to have gold backing for currencies, but rather to remove gold from the financial system entirely so it could never be used as money again. Thus, gold trading ceased because its production, use and possession were banned. By these means, the G-20 and the World Central Bank control the only forms of money. Some lucky ones had purchased gold in 2014 and sold it when it reached $40,000 per ounce in 2019. By then, inflation was out of control and the power elites knew that all confidence in paper currencies had been lost. The only way to re-establish control of money was to confiscate gold. But those who sold near the top were able to purchase land or art, which the authorities did not confiscate.
 
 
 
 
 
He spent 29 soul-crushing years behind the walls of the most feared and despised agency in the United States -- the IRS -- discovering every tax secret and investment strategy known to man. Until one day he vanished…
 
Thanks to one little known discovery he made at the agency…he suddenly walked out and took an early retirement. Ever since, he’s dedicated his life to exposing this secret the IRS would prefer you didn’t know.
 
A lot of people hate this man… but you’ll love him after you SEE THIS.
 
 
 
 
Those who never owned gold in the first place saw their savings, retirement incomes, pensions and insurance policies turn to dust once the hyperinflation began. Now it seems so obvious. The only way to preserve wealth through the Panic of 2018 was to have gold, land and fine art. But investors not only needed to have the foresight to buy it… they also had to be nimble enough to sell the gold before the confiscation in 2020, and then buy more land and art and hang onto it. For that reason, many lost everything. Land and personal property were not confiscated, because much of it was needed for living arrangements and agriculture. Personal property was too difficult to confiscate and of little use to the state. Fine art was lumped in with cheap art and mundane personal property and ignored. Stock and bond trading were halted when the markets closed. During the panic selling after the crash of 2018, stocks were wiped out.  Too, the value of all bonds were wiped out in the hyperinflation of 2019. Governments closed stock and bond markets, nationalized all corporations and declared a moratorium on all debts. World leaders initially explained it as an effort to "buy time" to come up with a plan to unfreeze the markets, but over time, they realized that trust and confidence had been permanently destroyed, and there was no point in trying.
 
By 2017, the U.S. government required sensors on all cars.
Wiped-out savers broke out in money riots soon after but were quickly suppressed by militarized police who used drones, night vision technology, body armor and electronic surveillance. Highway tollbooth digital scanners were used to spot and interdict those who tried to flee by car. By 2017, the U.S. government required sensors on all cars. It was all too easy for officials to turn off the engines of those who were government targets, spot their locations and arrest them on the side of the road. In compensation for citizens' wealth destroyed by inflation and confiscation, governments distributed digital Social Units called Social Shares and Social Donations. These were based on a person's previous wealth. Americans below a certain level of wealth got Social Shares that entitled them to a guaranteed income. Those above a certain level of wealth got Social Donation units that required them to give their wealth to the state. Over time, the result was a redistribution of wealth so that everyone had about the same net worth and the same standard of living. The French economist Thomas Piketty was the principal consultant to the G-20 and World Central Bank on this project. To facilitate the gradual freezing of markets, confiscation of wealth and creation of Social Units, world governments coordinated the elimination of cash in 2016. The "cashless society" was sold to citizens as a convenience. No more dirty, grubby coins and bills to carry around!
 
The “cashless society” was sold to citizens as a convenience.
Instead, you could pay with smart cards and mobile phones and could transfer funds online. Only when the elimination of cash was complete did citizens realize that digital money meant total control by government. This made it easy to adopt former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers' idea of negative interest rates. Governments simply deducted amounts from its citizens' bank accounts every month.  Without cash, there was no way to prevent the digital deductions. The government could also monitor all of your transactions and digitally freeze your account if you disagreed with their tax or monetary policy. In fact, a new category of hate crime for "thoughts against monetary policy" was enacted by executive order. The penalty was digital elimination of the wealth of those guilty of dissent. The entire process unfolded in small stages so that investors and citizens barely noticed before it was too late. Gold had been the best way to preserve wealth from 2014–18, but in the end, it was confiscated because the power elites knew it could not be allowed. First, they eliminated cash in 2016. Then they eliminated diverse currencies and stocks in 2018. Finally came the hyperinflation of 2019, which wiped out most wealth, followed by gold confiscation and the digital socialism of 2020. By last year, 2023, free markets, private property and entrepreneurship were things of the past. All that remains of wealth is land, fine art and some (illegal) gold. The only other valuable assets are individual talents, provided you can deploy them outside the system of state-approved jobs. Regards, Jim Rickards for The Daily Reckoning
ve fun.

 

 

I got the idea, so I updated the view:From this:
 
To more like this:
 
or like this:
Again green is 'better' for savers and red is 'worse' for savers.  Anyway you slice it being a saver is getting really hard.  That stinks for equality.  Thanks for your insights to what these graphs mean — I thought I should finish this exercise.
 
And to CAH, I too see a very discontinuous change approaching in our society, as you stated so well.  One day I believe everything will be very different. 
This 'financial capital' stuff is being abused into oblivion.  Moving away from money type security is very very counter culture, a million bucks seems to be the solve-all in our societies mind.  I will say I would really like to 'cash out' into other forms of capital, such as discussed by Ethan Roland of Appleseed Permaculture.  Wow, its hard, because it is so counter culture.  These ideas are presently infusing my mind; thank you for the comment.  
 
Sterling
 
 
 
 

Chris,
I believe in the premise of your article, however I believe you took the author out of context in his article to make your point.  Salon.com is hardly a legitimate source for the fine work you do.  The author in his text was trying to justify strategic default as a way to get back at the "wrongs of society" (rich people) and was trying to make a political point.  Your work is to good to use this as a reference for your points.  I took the time to read your article then I took the time to click your source link.  If I had clicked the source link first, I wouldn't have bothered with the rest of your article.  I'm feeling a little disappointed, but believe you can find other source material besides articles published by Edwin Lyngar.  I believe most people here probably don't share his views or would use him as a reference in any of their work.

Please don't take this personally, but I wanted to share my honest opinion.  You do great work, but this time I feel the source was twisted.

G-n-G

Chris,
I believe in the premise of your article, however I believe you took the author out of context in his article to make your point.  Salon.com is hardly a legitimate source for the fine work you do.  The author in his text was trying to justify strategic default as a way to get back at the "wrongs of society" (rich people) and was trying to make a political point.  Your work is to good to use this as a reference for your points.  I took the time to read your article then I took the time to click your source link.  If I had clicked the source link first, I wouldn't have bothered with the rest of your article.  I'm feeling a little disappointed, but believe you can find other source material besides articles published by Edwin Lyngar.  I believe most people here probably don't share his views or would use him as a reference in any of their work.

Please don't take this personally, but I wanted to share my honest opinion.  You do great work, but this time I feel the source was twisted.

G-n-G

After listening to the recordings of inside the Fed that were leaked a couple of weeks ago, the fear that I heard in every one of the voices I heard reinforced something that my intuition has been telling me. The system has an inertia, and that inertia pushes good people in a direction that they feel they have to go. I use the word "feel" because I think their decisions ultimately come from fear. I'm seeing it in government and education. Fear brings the action of control. The technostructure of the economy is what feeds this fear and creates this inertia. I'm past seeing those in the Fed as villians. I see them now as terrified. Think of about it, it must be terrifying. The system has taken somewhat of a pathological nature over many years of development (decades). Now, what seem like logical choices push us toward an even more pathological system.
DaveF, I think you said it…"The temptation to control everything "for the good of society" is so strong, both on the right and the left." Where is this temptation coming from?

Chris wrote: "Education is not about collecting facts, it is about connecting facts.  Well, at least that's what education should be, but all too often is not."

I'm glad homeschooling has worked out for you and your family. It's one way of dealing with some of the issues of education. Homeschooling can create other issues for some children though, as I'm sure you're aware. Also, some parents have the education and means to educate their own children, others do not. I agree with you about curiosity. Creating the spark of learning how to love learning is crucial, but it's also about allowing students to discover their potential, whatever that potential is.

What I've seen in education is not a deliberate dumbing down of education (as that would entail having to dupe a whole lot of smart educators, teachers that taught you and me), but rather the same temptation to control that DaveF mentions. This is creating a narrowing of learning. The inertia that is taking place right now is causing our collective administration to grow even more than the enormous size it is. Here's a very simple youtube video that in my opinion hits the nail on the head as to what's really wrong with education using the word itself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxmUGzxs8Zk

Thank you, GB

 

As romantic as the notion of shouldering arms and marching off to "stick it to the Man" might be, it won't work.  In 1775 the majority of Americans lived on, or had close ties to, small, organic, energy independent farms.  The general population could "shelter in place" literally indefinitely.  Today all that TPTB need do is stop truck traffic for a week or so and the masses will be turning in the 3%ers for a sandwich and a bottle of water. 
While I don't discount the possibility of dying at a barricade, in a gulag, or curled up under a bush in the snow, collapse early and avoid the rush seems like the best course of action.  As distasteful as it sounds, shuffling along with one's head down and mouth shut, building the new world as the old one collapses under it's own weight, seems like it has the greatest likely hood of resulting in something positive. A fifteen year collapse to an Eighteenth century lifestyle would seem to be much better to me than a fifteen day collapse to a paleolithic one.

John G

[quote=gillbilly]What I've seen in education is not a deliberate dumbing down of education (as that would entail having to dupe a whole lot of smart educators, teachers that taught you and me), but rather the same temptation to control that DaveF mentions. This is creating a narrowing of learning. The inertia that is taking place right now is causing our collective administration to grow even more than the enormous size it is.
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I got my CA teaching credential back in 1990 through the U.C. system and I witnessed first hand this "deliberate dumbing down" by the promoting of "the principles of Humanistic Education" in the student teacher curriculum. Foremost among the tenets of this new approach were: "the only form of meaningful evaluation is self-evaluation, and "feelings, as well as knowledge, are important in the learning process." This was the beginning of the "everyone gets a prize, touchy, feely" denigration of both academic and artistic excellence in the public schools, in lieu of this insidious and burgeoning "moral relativism."
On a side note, I recall being infuriated at the time when my girlfriends son (an extremely bright kid who was then in third grade) told us what was going on in his class …the new "humanist way" was to have him stop his own progress if he got at all ahead, and have him go around and help teach the other kids in the class until everyone was caught up…something which bored him to no end, and made him dread going to school. This was one of the new teaching techniques aimed at stultifying the kids at the top, by forcing them to go at a snails pace "for the good of the collective."
 
 
 
 
 

[quote=cmartenson]If any of you meet my kids (or have as the case may be) you'll see what I mean…they are intelligent human beings…not kids or students or children.  And that is the potential birthright of every young human being…as long as they are not taught otherwise along the way.
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Hi all,
I'm on a trip in Venice with my students so here is a quick response.
Sometimes I struggled in public school, partly because I had to study something I didn't want to, and this was a barrier to my curiosity or motivation.  But, the biggest barriers to my motivation personally seem to have been connected to some emotional obstacles that I faced, and which took me a long time to overcome.  So, the system was only part of my personal obstacles to learning.
I also had the experience of having my curiosity sparked at school.  Biology teacher Ms. Metter allowed my and my friend Jason to stay after school in 7th grade to help her with the fish tanks.  In 3rd grade, Ms. Stauffer let us create our own muppets and make our own muppet show, based as much on our own personalities as the real Muppets.  My positive experiences in high school are too many to recount, but I am still in touch occassionally with Mr. Landry, Mr. Frissel, Ms. Groupe, and I also have many fond memories of other high school teachers with whom I wasn't in touch.  One thing that happened in high school was that I became my own person, more separate from the wonderful, but also sometimes tyrannical, nuclear family structure.  Developing adolescent-to-adult relationships with my peers and teachers and coaches (Mr. Hamilton - my swim coach - was a star…) was a huge part of my maturation process.  
Today in Venice we went to see a PhD oceanographer talk about sea level rise, then to the Biennale to let students explore contemporary architecture, and then students had free time to study a subject which they chose on their own - granted from a menu of about 45 options in Venice.  Some of these students are very self-motivated and curious and some are not as much, but certainly we see their potential shine forth at different moments.
I agree that the compartmentalization of public and private education can kill curiosity, but I also think that thing are a little deeper than described above.  In some cases, moms and dads can certainly kill curiosity, restrict knowledge, and limit a young person's exposure to other adult perspectives, sometimes as much or more than teachers.  In most cases, parents have certain weaknesses and flaws that, in spite of their many strengths, can be oppressive if a young person does not have a chance to meet other adults.  This meeting of others allows the teen to have a broader and more diversified view of the world, giving him/her more exposure to more models of what it means to be an adult.  
Heck, in some of my classes, students even get to explore heterodox economic paradigms like biophysical economics and alternative thinkers like Charles Hall or Chris Martenson… Their parents almost certainly would not have led them towards those particular waterfalls, at the very least.
Intellectually, school is also where many young people may enter world of curiosity, not leave it.  This was certainly true to a great extent for my mother, whose parents were kind and hard working, but not intellectually curious.  Mom, however, took off at school, reading, performing in plays, writing for publications and otherwise doing things that her parents had not imagined.
Also, we are all playing this game in the gordian knot of modern industrial civilization.  Certainly our modern educational system is a part of that and can often - but certainly not as much as some argue - take the joy from life.  But, this is true about a lot of aspects of our modern, compartmentalized world.  I am sure that the indigenous communities and ecosystems whose gold we (yes, us…) are pillaging indirectly by bidding up the price of gold would like us to see the waterfall, the forest, and the earth as a whole.  
I heard a great quote on this recently…you wouldn't sell the Duomo in Florence for its bricks…it's worth a lot more than that as a whole, integrated work.  Yet our system as a whole (and those of us here who buy PMs) are of course selling off parcels of our biosphere in just such a way.  So, sometimes we want to look at things as a whole when it suits us, but we'd like to keep looking at things as discrete and private parcels of property when that suits us as well.
I am all for home schooling if it works for people, as I certainly think that parents and young people should have a lot of freedom of choice about education.  But there is a lot of good happening in public and private classroom education as well, even if it is part of a larger system that we would like to transform.
We are seeing waterfalls, mountains, (rising) lagoons, beautiful paintings, and much more both in the classroom and beyond.
Cheers,
Hugh
 

The entire premise of this article is BOGUS and shows a complete lack of understanding of the only 2 interest rates the Federal Reserve controls and how banks determine interest rates they pay on any and all time deposits.
The Federal Reserve CANNOT AND DOES NOT CONTROL INTEREST RATES AT ALL IN THE ECONOMY and only controls the following 2 interest rates which have nothing whatsoever to do with the economy:

  1. Federal Discount Rate - currently 0.75%
  2. Federal Funds Rate (which it influences) - currently 0.25%
    Both rates are only for VERY SHORT TERM LIQUIDITY PURPOSES AND APPLY ONLY TO BANK BORROWING, with the Federal Discount rate being for direct borrowing by banks from the Federal Discount Window at the Federal Reserve and the Federal Funds rate being for interbank borrowing.
    The only 2 rates set by the Federal Reserve have absolutely nothing to do with the interest rates that banks pay on savings account, other than to "influence" the banks to perhaps pay higher or lower rates on those accounts.
    There is no minimum amount that was ever coded into regulations that banks have to pay on a savings account, although there were once maximums with Regulation Q which was part of the Glass Steagall Act and those were 5.25% for banks and 5.50% for thrifts (savings and loans).
    Banks USED TO GENERALLY FOLLOW the Federal Discount Rate in terms of what they would pay savers as recently as 2007, but that was before they discovered that they could pay savers 0.000000000000000000001% and not have any significant loss of deposits.

As long as banks have LOW DEMAND FOR BORROWING against depositor funds, the chance of banks "competing" with other banks to pay higher rates to attract funds (which used to include FREE TOASTERS, etc. along with bonus interest rates for a period of time) is nada, zip, zilch, and nil.
 

Brad, I remember those days. It was annoying to see everyone get a prize of some sort. Don't know if you're still teaching, but many schools have moved away from that. We all have our limited experience, so I'm only speaking from mine. Some schools are turning out excellent learners, others not so much. I agree with Hugh as well, there are some pretty amazing students graduating every year. I also agree with him that having a wide varieties of approaches helps, whether it be home schooling, public, private, technical, etc.
I sat with my advisees today and asked them what they would like to see change in their school experience. Their response…we want more freedom to choose our curriculum and schedule. The more requirements that are added, the less they are able to choose. They are feeling controlled. I asked them to explain. They said the administration and some teachers didn't trust them to make their own choices, and that it was those adults that seemed to fear the mistakes the students might make.

My take…there is a lot of money that rides on test scores (which effects public and private schools) and behavior (which effects admissions primarily private schools, but public as well), and the students feel the pressure of that fear from adults. Just my observation.

Wonder where Yellen went to school?

I was heartened to hear about your positive experiences with the educational system.  But you particularly hit a chord with me with the following:


Also, we are all playing this game in the gordian knot of modern industrial civilization.  Certainly our modern educational system is a part of that and can often - but certainly not as much as some argue - take the joy from life.  But, this is true about a lot of aspects of our modern, compartmentalized world.  I am sure that the indigenous communities and ecosystems whose gold we (yes, us…) are pillaging indirectly by bidding up the price of gold would like us to see the waterfall, the forest, and the earth as a whole.  
I heard a great quote on this recently…you wouldn't sell the Duomo in Florence for its bricks…it's worth a lot more than that as a whole, integrated work.  Yet our system as a whole (and those of us here who buy PMs) are of course selling off parcels of our biosphere in just such a way.  So, sometimes we want to look at things as a whole when it suits us, but we'd like to keep looking at things as discrete and private parcels of property when that suits us as well.

I used to know someone whose work would take him to Indonesia.  I was concerned for his safety because the State Department warned Americans that there was violence and unrest, and that going there wasn't necessarily safe. But the more I read, the more I started to learn that there was more to the story than "bad people causing civil unrest".  https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/publications/archive/dialogue/2_11/section_3/4459.html/:pf_printable
The Amungme and Kamoro are the original indigenous landowners of the areas of Papua that are now occupied by Freeport’s massive copper and gold mining operations. At the time of Freeport’s arrival in 1967, the two communities numbered several thousand people. With lands spanning tropical rainforest, coastal lowlands, glacial mountains, and river valleys, the Kamoro (lowlanders) and Amungme (highlanders) practiced a subsistence economy based on sustainable agriculture, forest products, fishing, and hunting — their cultures intimately entwined with the surrounding landscape. Today, Freeport’s Papua mining operations are among the largest in the world. The company has decapitated one of Papua’s mountains, held sacred by the Amungme, and dumped millions of tons of mining waste into local river systems. Freeport’s despoliation of Kamoro and Amungme lands and natural resources have brought serious harm to the economies and livelihoods of local communities. Compounding the problem are the hordes of outsiders who have swarmed to the economic “boom town” created by the mine. The area’s population has exploded to some 120,000 people, making Timika the fastest-growing “economic zone” in the entire Indonesian archipelago. For the Amungme and Kamoro the conflict with Freeport began with the company’s confiscation of their territory. Freeport’s 1967 Contract of Work with the Indonesian government gave Freeport broad powers over the local population and resources, including the right to take land, timber, water, and other natural resources, and to resettle indigenous inhabitants while providing “reasonable compensation” only for dwellings and permanent improvements. Freeport was not required to compensate local communities for the loss of their food gardens, hunting and fishing grounds, drinking water, forest products, sacred sites, and other elements of the natural environment.
   The more I read, the more I was blown away with the total disregard with which the gold and copper mining operations devastated the indigenous people's natural environment.  But what really made it hit home was reading how, in destroying the mountains and rivers, the mining operations were literally defiling what the indigenous people viewed as the embodiment of the sacred "female earth spirits". https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/publications/archive/dialogue/2_11/section_3/4459.html/:pf_printable
This usurpation of indigenous land is particularly harsh in view of Amungme cosmology, which regards the most significant of its female earth spirits, Tu Ni Me Ni, as embodied in the surrounding landscape. Her head is in the mountains, her breasts and womb in the valleys, and the rivers are her milk. To the Amungme, Freeport’s mining activities are killing their mother and polluting the milk on which they depend for sustenance — literally and spiritually. In addition, mountains are the home to which the spirits of Amungme ancestors go following death.”
So yes, I think you bring up a very valid and uncomfortable point, that there are times (like when we buy gold), when wemay  turn a blind eye to the "whole picture".

[quote=Adam Price]The entire premise of this article is BOGUS and shows a complete lack of understanding of the only 2 interest rates the Federal Reserve controls and how banks determine interest rates they pay on any and all time deposits.
The Federal Reserve CANNOT AND DOES NOT CONTROL INTEREST RATES AT ALL IN THE ECONOMY and only controls the following 2 interest rates which have nothing whatsoever to do with the economy
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You should try yelling LOUDER.

deliberately dumb down Americans? They would be moulded to accept everything that they are told by the PTB as gospel and not to question authority. As far as the biggest lie is concerned, it seems to be working just dandy. It certainly is working over here in old blighty, "The government would never do that to their own people" I hear them say, but the application of that which is missing, logic and reasoning, tells us the opposite is true. Big tick in the box for homeschooling from me!

[quote=Adam Price]The entire premise of this article is BOGUS and shows a complete lack of understanding of the only 2 interest rates the Federal Reserve controls and how banks determine interest rates they pay on any and all time deposits.
The Federal Reserve CANNOT AND DOES NOT CONTROL INTEREST RATES AT ALL IN THE ECONOMY and only controls the following 2 interest rates which have nothing whatsoever to do with the economy:
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Assuming you are here to learn and be part of an open-mined discussion, I'll respond.  The Fed directly controls interest rates along the entire Treasury curve and even specifically targeted the long end of the curve with Operation Twist, which saw them swap short paper for long.
And they told us what they were doing and why.  They were driving down interest rates on the long end of the curve with the intent of lowering borrowing costs for long-term purchases, namely houses and corporate investments.
It's not at all reasonable to say that's anything other than controlling interest rates in the real economy.
So there's that.
Next, when the Fed buys a $ trillion in MBS paper, the recipients of all that new cash, by definition, have to do something with that cash.  They could hold onto it, they could store it at the Fed in excess reserves, or they could use it to buy up more financial assets.
To the extent that they used that fresh cash to buy a new debt instrument is the extent to which the prices for those assets rose as a result (and boy did they!) which, of course, drives interest rates lower (and boy did they!) and that's the indirect mechanism for driving rates lower.
But this is all very well known and easy to find out, and I'd invite you to read up on the subject. 
 

adam price-

The Federal Reserve CANNOT AND DOES NOT CONTROL INTEREST RATES AT ALL IN THE ECONOMY and only controls the following 2 interest rates which have nothing whatsoever to do with the economy:
The Fed has demonstrated effective control over short term rates through their QE programs that created a massive pile of Excess Reserves that is constantly seeking a return, which has driven short rates to zero.  Was this their intent?  I think so.   Short rate control: Mission Accomplished.

The Fed's effective control over long rates is more questionable.  They certainly have tried hard (buying 4 trillion in bonds with the stated intention of lowering rates is a decent sign of "trying hard" in my book) to lower rates, but the market seems to flex its muscles every now and then that makes me wonder just how complete their control is over longer rates.

Evidence of the desire to control long rates here:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2012-06-20/full-text-of-fed-statement/55711168/1

... The Committee also decided to continue through the end of the year its program to extend the average maturity of its holdings of securities. Specifically, the Committee intends to purchase Treasury securities with remaining maturities of 6 years to 30 years at the current pace and to sell or redeem an equal amount of Treasury securities with remaining maturities of approximately 3 years or less. This continuation of the maturity extension program should put downward pressure on longer-term interest rates and help to make broader financial conditions more accommodative.
So, since explicit policy statements from the Fed itself reveals a desire to control long rates, we can debate whether that policy was successful or not but what is not up for debate is the attempt was made.

 

Your patience with the folks here is to be admired. I have too few thumbs with which to congratulate.