Making The World A More Dangerous Place

I go back and forth were I am frantic to convince people that the Twin Towers and Building 7 were controlled demolitions and at other times when I let it go more and give people space to believe whatever they will.
We just can't underestimate the magnitude of change that results from coming to accept that these were demolitions with explosives.  It is immense.  Everything cascades out from this:

  • understanding of the true governance structure of nation and world is not as it seems and must include some kind of "deep state,"
  • understanding of the role of government scientific panels (NIST, FEMA, and who else?),
  • understanding of the role of the press,
  • understanding of censorship of the press,
  • understanding the way a false belief can be propagated and maintained in a population.
  • question the real role of the Global War On Terror
  • question the role of the USA and its global military projection
The result is that a very intelligent person can look right at a high quality video of an obvious demolition by explosives and "see" a "collapse."  You can even show the WTC7 demolition side-by-side with a known implosion video and point out the identical pattern and have a very intelligent person notice the similarities but argue that the mechanism is completely different.

Noticing explosives rattles our world views to the core.

Our hope in spreading this understanding is that the effectiveness of false flag terrorism and the immorality and inhumanity of global military projection are weakened as more understand the way 9/11 is used.  Until then, these types of incidents will probably continue.

 

 

…or, if your black ops team has been told to plant a beacon in WTC7 so the last plane hits, guaranteed, at - say - the 40th floor, why rig the floors above ?
I suppose the only need to rig the whole thing would be if you intended the plane to strike on the very top floor.

But if your plane was piloted by humans, you would expect the floor of impact to be somewhat random.

I agree with many of your premises as they apply to interpreting data.  But, I always start with physical reality.  Starting from your perspective leads to manipulating data to conform with your world view.  Starting from my perspective requires that you understand physical reality first, then move on to how it fits into your world view.  If it doesn't fit, perhaps its time to adjust your world view or acknowledge a particular incident falls outside your world view.

 

"Since died"… Jowenko's death was in fact only 3 days following the interview which he gave in your link. Single car incident. Head-on into a tree. In the month of July - therefore in a European summer, with roads very unlikely to be icy (they were wet on the day though). Video footage of the scene shows impact damage on the car which seems strangely broad-sized for a collision with a relatively thin tall vertical object (though not impossible). Some images also show someone moving around inside the crashed vehicle… which I'd have thought is odd practice.

 

I do try to keep an open mind about genuine coincidences, but, coupled with the recent spate of homeopathic doctors' deaths, one has to wonder. Call me overly suspicious but my experience in an environment of high-frequency, lone-occupant vehicle mishaps - especially those involving large no-nonsense army trucks - has always kept my antennae tweaked. Particularly where the lone occupants had publicly shared some inconvenient news.

 

Thanks for the post - that's one of the better-known 9/11 interviews involving demolitions experts / architects / engineers.

If you are able to view ALL the data… ALL the coincidences around 9/11 objectively, I believe that it will change your worldview regarding the existence of the deep state, it's level of power, etc.  Not vice versa… that's not how it worked for me.  Learning about 9/11… seeking the truth of 9/11… changed my worldview…      

Ok so Steve Jones says that aluminium doesn't glow when hot
http://stj911.org/jones/experiments_NIST_orange_glow_hypothesis.html

But the web has pictures of hot glowing aluminium, and a debunker got some to glow here

http://drjudywood.com/articles/aluminum/Aluminum_Glows.html

Me no understand, does hot aluminium glow or not ?

My understanding of Sand Puppys Post ( which was a great one btw)  is that the epiphany of understanding the physical reality of the presence of explosives then leads to the logical adjustments to world view, which he elucidated.  

  What I am observing here and elsewhere is that a world view where such things as the presence of a deep state and world power projection for non altruistic means is excluded, people contort themselves trying to make the observed facts fit their restricted world view.  

   If one already has come to the more comprehensive  worldview that includes geopolitical agendas being advanced  through the use of false flags and psy ops  is an established power protocol,(through the study of history for example) it is much easier to sift through the nonsensical arguments proffered trying to deny physical reality.  That doesn't imply confirmation bias.  Physics is physics  

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First the physical understanding of the collapses, then a really deep gut-wrenching cry,  then a couple of years of adjusting and rethinking my understanding of how the world works based on entirely new assumptions.  I started reading new authors who could describe things in the light of this new understanding.

On a side note, which may not be welcome
https://youtu.be/yjxAArOkoA0

Sorry Chris, I mistook your suggestion about the Shanksville plane.  For some reason, i misconstrued the "Shanksville" part.  But, the speculation that flight 93 was headed for WTC7 is still very remote and doesn't change my underlying point.  The trajectory of the plane when it went down was ESE, not toward NYC.  It was heading approximately toward DC where most speculations centered to begin with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

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The bottom line is that there are a lot of threshold questions that need to be answered before you dive into the deep weeds of the melting points of metals and temperatures that could have been reached in that environment.  If it wasn't possible, or at least was extremely unlikely, that the explosives could have been planted in WTC7, then you must examine alternative explanations.

Given the fact that none of the responses to my previous posts answer the very basic questions I presented, I am left with my normal skepticism of CTs.

 

 

I think, whatever the reality of the thing, it's a positive that people are willing to at least persistently question official narratives. I've had my fair share of arguments about this sort of stuff by people who seem even resentful that anyone should try to think for themselves. As Iraq has shown, the price for believing the bullshit can be disastrously high, yet people seem willing to pay that sort of price. I don't find the controlled demolition thesis convincing, but pretty much everything surrounding it has been bollocks from the dodgy dossiers to the fake UN planes Bush wanted.
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/an-interview-with-simon-mann

Weren’t you also asked to help kick start the Iraq War in 2002? Yes. A guy called David Hart told me he was friends with the American neocons and asked me to come up with ideas to get the war kicked off. The first was to pick an Iraqi city away from Baghdad, go there with a rebel force made up of 6,000 Iraqi émigrés, take the city, then say, “Yah boo” to Saddam. That would have forced him to come get us and be zapped on the road by the UK and US, or let the flag of rebellion spread.

The second was far more criminal. We wanted to buy an old rust-bucket ship, sail it to Karachi, load up secretly with some weapons-grade uranium, or whatever, then sail it into the Gulf with a motley crew, including me. We’d then leak our presence to the Saudis, get the navy to intercept us, sink their ship – hopefully without killing anyone – then sail into Basra. The world would have gone nuts and we’d have had an excuse for war in Iraq.
That’s pretty scandalous.
Well, yes. We actually got feedback from Number 10, via David Hart, that they liked the ideas, but not me. I believed him.

It's an extraordinary admission. You've got to have some brass balls to tell the world that, seeing as it's conspiracy to commit a war crime, and it ploughs the Blair government into the ground. But the world doesn't seem to care, so maybe it's easier than it seems.

Okay folks, lots of spleen venting and emotion over the "Deep State". Rather than pee on each other's bushes trying to convince one another that it exists/doesn't exist, lets for argument's sake assume it does.

  1. What? Deep state, it exists and they blow up buildings in NYC.

  2. So what?

  3. Now what?

I don't really give an at's rass about #1.  It exists to some degree, we all know that.

I have a pedestrian interest in #2.

I'm all ears about #3.

Thanks in advance.

My now what, in response to both limits to growth and most national-level politics, can be found from 08:56 to 09:06 in this clip from Brazil. I'd like to avoid the parts before and after… 

 

"I cannot tell," answered the good old man; "I never knew the name of any mufti, or vizier breathing. I am entirely ignorant of the event you speak of; I presume that in general such as are concerned in public affairs sometimes come to a miserable end; and that they deserve it: but I never inquire what is doing at Constantinople; I am contented with sending thither the produce of my garden, which I cultivate with my own hands."  from Voltaire's Candide

In other words, I'm working to get my mare settled, but have some more leg work to do on the practical end.

destroy Israel?
I'm pretty sure that will not change anything

Go on living your lives. I've come to the reality that I will probably be drafted and will likely die as a foot soldier in Ukraine in the event of global war. That's my career reality.
I don't believe war is coming yet though… Not yet.

https://youtu.be/UYK7wCRjTZM

Relax, WT, your services are no longer required

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_atffUtxXtk

Which I suspect is when governments will wind-down their welfare states

I think you need to worry more about starvation than bullets

I don't know how accurate the information source is but I thought it is interesting considering recent events in Turkey.
http://aanirfan.blogspot.ca/2014/08/turks-elect-jewish-president.html

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Turkey_relations
Because Israel and Turkey have somewhat close ties, the author seems to claim the current president has Jewish heritage which would be an achievement given that turkey only has 17,000 Jews. I've been reading up on the two country's relationships, and it is pretty interesting.

They had a brief strategic alliance from the mid-40 to 60s. Tension over Palestine caused that relationship to crumble. That relationship began to revive in the 80s or so. Just because he believes in strong regional alliances does not mean the man is Jewish. Saudi Arabia is also establishing a strategic alliance with Israel. Does that mean the house of Saud is also Jewish?

Here is an article where Erdogan defends his Muslim faith against Israeli claims

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Rachels-Tomb-was-never-Jewish

Here is another interesting article for perspective

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/196360#.VlZEqPmrShc

I don't really think that is a credible news resource in my opinion.

I just looked it up and there is actually a conspiracy theory that Saudi Arabia is actually run by Jews. They believe that the house of Saud is actually Jewish. Wow.

You would think they would be a little bit nicer to their own people…

There is virtually no Jewish activity in Saudi Arabia in the beginning of the 21st century. Jewish (as well as Christian and other non-Muslim) religious services are prohibited from being held on Saudi Arabian soil.[11] When American military personnel were stationed in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War, permission for small Christian worship services was eventually granted, but Jewish services were only permitted on US warships.[11] Census data does not identify any Jews as residing within Saudi Arabian territory.[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Saudi_Arabia