And yet that’s what this website is based on isn’t it? This website isn’t about Rainbows and Unicorn’s shitting Skittles, surrounded by adorable puppies and kittens.
It sells resilience and resilience is based on fear and doom. The Crash Course is enough to get people’s attention about the future with how badly we’ve f***ed ourselves and this planet.
The host of this website tells us how he and Evie have purchased a homestead to prepare for the uncertain and troubled times ahead. Well that’s a nice way of selling doom and fear porn. And of course there’s the occasional Red Alerts, with imminent possible dangers ahead.
The vast majority of my links are about current events that have taken place. So I suppose if you lived in Detroit and I posted a news story regarding several shootings and muggings in the area, I seriously doubt you would pull up in your Bentley with cash hanging out of your pocket? I really think you have a misunderstanding about what this website is all about.
Purchasing a homestead is pretty much the antithesis of fearporn, and is something I very much support. It’s taking meaningful action. Passing along links that just reiterate the same despair over and over again is fearporn and basically anti-productive, though. I don’t really see anything of value from those articles from The Economic Collapse. It’s pure fearporn. Just wasting a few minutes of your life to tell you what you already know and get a little cold satisfaction I guess that your existing worldview was correct. Identifying the problem is absolutely the first step, but just repeating the first step over and over and over again doesn’t really get you very far. This is really such a difficult concept?
Totally disagree because Chris made mention that he decided on land and a homestead because of what he sees coming. Which is based on fear and doom. The economic collapse articles are basically exposing what Americans are facing today. I don’t link articles from his site regarding space aliens or volcano eruptions.
His articles on high inflation that people are struggling with, increasing homelessness, and the wealthy preparing themselves due to fear and doom. So they too are building their homesteads based on fear and doom porn.
I agree that the content has focused too much on the doom porn as of late. It is amusing to see them shaking their their heads and how it just keeps getting stranger and stranger.
I would like to see more of a focus on potential solutions.
How did their solar system work out? Someone to introduce us to chickens, mob grazing, surveillance and security, resilience in the city, strategies for building communities, strategies for sussing out like minded people without breaking sec ops.
The other thing to pay attention to is the gradient of something. eg: Gold gold gold. What are the options for holding it and the advantages and disadvantages of each. So more of an introduction to various things so that if we are interested we can follow up with the specialists on the topic.
One question I’m still seeking an answer for is what is partial backing of a currency (or backing by commodities) means on a functional basis?
In a few ways I’ve gotten to the point of looking at what are the holes in my community can I prep for. Not looking to buy a tractor, most around me has one but I did buy a wood chipper.
I find being resilient soulfully satisfying. Knowing that I can substantially provide for myself really calms my mojo.
And i’m happy for you, keep it up. But as I have been explaining to Hector or at least trying too is that resilience is based of fear and doom. If fear and doom were not in play then there would not be any need to prepare if someone didn’t sense dark times ahead.
He just seems to have a thing for Michael Synder. Sure Synder can post some off the wall stuff but saying that the ultra wealthy are hunkering down and prepping for trouble times ahead, by living on an island with armed guards 24 hrs a day is not doom or fear porn when they have already done it.
It’s no different than Chris or Evie building a homestead because they sense trouble ahead. These scenarios are all based on fear and doom.
Healthy romantic relationships also have an element of physical attraction, but that doesn’t mean habitually consuming porn is the equivalent of having a healthy romantic relationship. When I criticize something as fearporn or doomporn, it’s not saying there’s no place whatsoever for fear and doom. More that signing up to have your lizard brain constantly poked in more or less the same fashion probably isn’t a good thing for the long term.
But you do you. If 15 minutes of Michael Snyder is your daily personal mediation and the only thing you’ve found that really motivates you to hit the garden, go for it. The prelude for 3 more hours of empty doomscrolling that accomplishes nothing whatsoever is probably the more typical case for the typical human.
The problem is you are applying Leftist logic to your argument, which is, it’s okay if we do it but it’s not okay if you do it. You are wanting to become the Judge and Juror of who should be called out for peddling fear and doom porn. In your view it’s okay for Chris and Evie to buy and build a Homestead which their decision was based on fear and doom, because he basically said so.
Tom Brady, Larry Weiner, Jeff Bezos and other wealthy people purchased homesteads based on fear and doom with armed guards patrolling the secluded island community 24 hrs a day. Yet if Michael Synder mentions this in an article, you slap the fear and doom peddler label on him.
You’re basically falling into all or nothing thinking. As I’ve said, homesteading tips are not fearporn. It’s taking your valid concerns and turning around and doing something productive about it and setting an example for others. As opposed to just complaining and leaving a bunch of free floating anxiety and anger with no meaningful outlet. I’ve started to tune out Chris sometimes when he goes down the outrage over various injustices rabbit holes to which there are really no meaningful solutions within our grasp, too.
You can guffaw at TDS suffers getting spun into a tizzy, but I see a disquieting amount of similarity between them and Michael Snyder doomscrollers who likewise get spun up into a rage over matters completely outside their sphere of influence with no meaningful outlet. Perfect set up for, “Let’s you and him fight.”
Better to just get your hands in the dirt. And even better to get someone who’s been crafted to be your ideological enemy to get their hands in the dirt with you. I’ve done it, and it’s extremely satisfying.
Nope Hector, they are especially if you are homesteading because you see the system falling apart. That was one of the reason Chris gave for homesteading as he sees warning signs flashing red and wants to become more self reliant away from the system. Such actions were taken based on perceived fear and doom.
Now where I will agree with you where it doesn’t apply if you are homesteading to create a farm or business to generate cash flow but the impression I got from Chris was, he took action from his perceived future threats.
Btw, thanks for keeping it civil. I’ve enjoyed this discussion.
Could you guys please knock it off with the debate about who’s more gloomy and doomy? We’re not here for that.
What about the actual stories posted?
I found this episode hard to read. Poorly edited, but also like the stories didn’t make sense.
What kind of data is the GAO saving? Was it research data that proves vaccines are actually safe? I’d like to see these data!
Military families have higher autism rates. What differences are there amongst them versus civilian families? Why higher rates for deployed families? Do they require more vaccines when posted abroad? Chemical exposure? Any kind of conclusion?
Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens story, this made no sense at all. Just a word salad. I know the source was George Webb and he often does not explain his thought process, talking a bit cryptically, but I couldn’t read his paywalled article.
China supercritical CO2 power, that was kind of neat. Could work for high temp point source emitters to utilize their waste stream.
Primarily: Your skittles rant was funny!
Secondarily: Deep down, the internet hasn’t changed much since the dawn of Usenet, other than ease-of-use and sheer numbers. Similar topics, discussions and similar personalities (raising hand, guilty as charged!).
Once you’ve had your epiphany, about all we have left are current events and courting new customers.
I remember those days as well as dialup modems, 300 baud rate. Amen, and I agree with you. However it doesn’t change the fact that this website was primarily designed around fear and doom. IIRC. Chris was even selling consultation to homesteading away from the system, because he saw warning signs that the system is breaking down.
But you are right that post the heydays of Usenet, there’s more noise these days.
I would suggest that the website is not so much structured around fear and doom, rather the posting of warning signs. Stop/yield signs and traffic lights do not always mean you needed to stop, just sometimes, in some places. Aiming to achieving agency, rather than passivity, with events. As mark Twain put it, “it is not what you don’t know, but what you know for sure, but just ain’t so”
I was a participant for many years. When covid happened, I still remember Chris’s multitudes of advice, which paid off big time. It took me awhile to become a subscriber, and IMHO, one of the best subscriptions on the internet. If it’s always right, what’s the value? If it’s mostly right what is the value. I haven’t always agreed with Chris, and let him know I disagreed. He has explained why he made the statements he made, and in analysis, his data sources were different than my data sources. A big one, I was right, he wasn’t, but I understand why he went the route he did. If I agreed 100% with someone on every topic, then we’re in the same echo chamber, and we both need some outside sources. Yes, there’s some published doom and gloom, but given the underlying data, is it doom and gloom or upcoming reality. Look at peak oil. Chris has been way ahead of the curve, maybe too far. But, say he’s off by even 10 years, in the grand scheme of things, 10 years over several decades is nothing. People are looking for exact market timing, and there’s no way to predict things this big within a year or two. Best to look at trends, and this IMHO is where Chris excels. I always said in business, what is the 30,000 ft view? Well Chris looks at things from the 100,000 ft level. Don’t get caught up in the short term low level “noise”. Stay focused on the big picture while still paying attention at the micro level… It’s a rare ability to do that.
And I remember that as well. I also remember Chris going hyperbolic on R-naught. In the end as more data and information came our way, we found out that Covid was a staged scam to get the Plebs to hand over more of their freedoms. We learned that as the Davos group began to make their plans known to the world.
That said, don’t get me wrong, I like Chris, he’s a good egg but some of the stuff that’s on this site could be construed by those on the outside who don’t know him as fear and doom. I am one, who believes what he says in his Crash Course. Future generation(s) are going to be navigating thru a minefield as we continue to deplete the resources that our civilization requires to operate our modern way of life.
