So It's Back To First Principles

Blood?

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A standard garden chair has a height of 31.5 inches. If that is a standard garden chair left side of the door then the door is slightly <81.9

So you’re probably very close with the 5.2 :+1:
Bottom line he’s a really small guy.

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Knee wound - see

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No idea, but maybe protection of being blinded by the sun when aiming?

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:crossed_fingers:

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So, I have what might be a stupid question, but I’m going to ask it anyways.

How is it possible that the only place the site advance team is filmed or photographed exploring and investigation the rally site, doing their planning, excluding that exact spot from the secure perimeter, happens to be exactly the site that the shooter “chose” to shoot from? No other buildings or complexes were displayed during their advance, everything is centered around this AGR building, and then lo and behold, oh my God we have a shooter here!?!?!?

And there is also video evidence of a potential AGR employee shooing people away from the area of action. Has anyone uncovered any information about AGR International on anything? I don’t really see many possibilities leading to them being an innocent bystander in all this either.

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*Edit: * Oh yeah, and here I believe is William Wilson of Cranberry Township:


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@vegaspatriot @sorey @redranamber @brian60221
Sorry if this was already mentioned in detail. Are these guys names/units known? The ones in shorts.

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I don’t have them yet.

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Honestly so far, I don’t think I’ve seen anywhere that we’ve been able to actually identify these fellas. Though what was it, they appeared from the building eventually wearing kit saying “State Police” I think? Someone please correct me if I’m mistaken.

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I would make sense I believe. On the Stewart video we can see what appears to be a Pennsylvania State Police uniform sort of asking cammo-shorts guy something, in a manner consistent with someone asking a boss for directions.

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My wild guess they watch the shop lifters on other days.

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Patroling the store(s) undercover, watching for shop lifters.

(By the way, our former ‘leftish’ government gave donations for thos people to prevent shop lifting.)

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Later it looks not so bloody.

No I don’t and what in the world are you babbling on about?

I just went through my footage. I do not. Sorry.

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This is Greg Smith on the ZZ Top guy. He’s a civilian.

The other guy top right wearing the baseball cap the other way round is state police as is the guy in the top left picture standing beside the window. No names yet as far as I know.

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KZ haven’t you got the CSI Enhance/Zoom key on your keyboard?

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good catch, thx for sharing :+1:

USSS PacMan style
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Like someone else pointed out, ZZ Cop turned out to be a civilian, and when the sergeant was shouting “if you’re not law enforcement, go!”, he left.

The other two guys are mysterious. The best stuff we have is that their badges look like PSP badges, and somebody in the video evidence said they were (some word that sounds like) “CERT team”. Could be CRT, CERT, SRT, SERT, we don’t know.

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Thanks for calling out Wilson. I get tunnel vision sometimes when working, and found that same photo to use in a “Tactical Vehicles” slide I’m adding, nd didn’t bother to read the name tags. I was focused on the BuC Lenco Bearcat. :joy:

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