So It's Back To First Principles

Thank you for the different perspective. Based on your aerial view, I agree that the harvester would block his view of the stage from the AAR Building 5 wall.

Initially, in my analysis, I wasn’t even concerned if he could actually see the stage. The harvester blocking the view from the AAR 6 building wall was added as further evidence against that location. I will now go back and update that slide to address obstructions to the stage more specifically… However, that change will not change my inference that he was seen using the rangefinder against the AAR Building 5 wall.

The criteria from that text message was not that he could actually see the stage, it was simply that he was “looking towards stage.” The word “towards” describes direction, not ability. Using his rangefinder to confirm an obstruction is just as reasonable as using it to confirm range. Perhaps that is why he used his rangefinder, not to just get the range, but to also use the zoom capability as I’ve stated before, or even just the narrowed view, to determine if he could take his shots from the roof of that building, AAR5. Seeing the Harvester as an obstruction, he then realizes he needs to take those shots from the roof of AGR 6. That would answer your question below.

As for your statement that I use evidence that doesn’t exist, I challenge you to state one of the pieces of evidence I listed on Slide 11 that does not exist. I can produce each item listed. Based on another comment of yours regarding this topic, if I had to guess, you might not realize that evidence exists that Nicol stated Crooks was seen “up against the building.” If so, here you go, the referenced text message. You did include it in your post above, but perhaps you overlooked that statement in the last text bubble.

So, bottom line, my inferred rangefinder use location does not contradict the evidence of Crooks “looking towards stage,” whereas yours does by virtue of it not being “up against [a] building.” I totally agree with your proposed location having visibility of the stage, but that technically was not a criteria demanded by the evidence.

Here is the revision made to Slide 15 of my analysis, based on your aerial image. While it did not change my inference, it did change that aspect of my argument for it. Thank you.

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That does explain Woods’ comment well. Thank you. I had figured it was unlikely he could spot that location from the road as he was driving home, so I couldn’t previously explain that comment. You have solved that mystery.

As for the Alfa Romeo possibly being a rally goer’s vehicle, I had the same thought. That is until I ran across an entry in the BuC Detail plan I forgot about. I now believe it was most likely Murcko’s car.

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One small issue here, unless we’ve uncovered something I’m not aware of, SQ200 was supposed to be driven by Ray McDonald, not Nicol. This is further reinforced with your AR400 & SQ200 sightings sidebar, Nicol could not have been driving SQ200 from BeC ESU post if he was posted at AGR.


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I interpret “brought to the scene” as driving it to the rally site, not being the driver of it during a response. Zaliponi (Zip) couldn’t drive 2 vehicles at the same time either.

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Jamming was probably not necessary, when Trump was on stage, there must have been several to many viewers filming and streaming at the same time. That alone could easily have led to an overload. Law enforcement certainly had enough experience with such events to be able to assess this problem well.

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I agree, ‘brought to the scene’ implies driven to rally site. Then in the event of a response, McDonald were to drive the SQ200, and “Zal” Zaliponi were to drive the UTV. Immediately I am curious as to the name discrepancy on this document. Why would you refer to the same individual by two different names in your planning? I.e., Zal and Zip. It makes it sound as if these are two different people. Currently running through a bunch of things trying to find what I thought was someone referred to as “Zip”, it very well could have been Zaliponi I just can’t recall. Regardless, Nicol could not have been driving the SQ200 from BeC ESU post at 18:14:32 as he was outside Door 9 having his little chat on the corner with the SERT boys around that same time.

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Btw, here’s a pic of Zaliponi with his name visible on his helmet:



Pennsylvania Army National Guard | Sgt. Aaron Zaliponi, an i… | Flickr

And could this Roger Young possibly be the same as our Roger Patrick Young?



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Interesting finds on Zaliponi and Young. I didn’t realize Zaliponi was that old. Yes, I can see the resemblance in Young’s 15 years ago photo.

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This was released today, i have not had chance to read it yet

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That nose! :laughing:

Also, this officer that pulls up to Pearson alongside Collin Lawson would be Korey Zarnick, who used to be part of Butler City Police, transferred to Penn Township Police. I believe we may have identified him in the past, or at least discussed him during our search.


September-12-2023.docx (live.com)




Photo Gallery (butlercitypd.org)

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Thanks for the heads up. I caught that earlier this morning and have already incorporated it into my Research Tools (Rev 10), which I just uploaded to the Shared Files. In that revision I added an “Investigations” slide.

Research Tools (Rev 10).pdf (2.5 MB)

I am currently working on a deep dive into radio communications, and found this diagram in the report.

I believe he has the Detail’s channel wrong, or at least it doesn’t align with the Site Lead/Agent testimony. “Baker” didn’t fit the redaction. The CS/CAT channel “Romeo” I missed because it wasn’t in the standard protection channel list, but I still have to find the list it’s in.

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Good find! I’ll add him to the next revision. I uploaded Rev. 11 just 4 days ago, so he’ll ben in Rev. 12.

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Might I say, that’s a very interesting chart of the command structure and communications. :thinking:

Frequencies A through Z

Alpha 32.2300 WHCA-Transportation (vans) (possible DC base)
Baker 165.7875 USSS-Field Offices, President/VP/VIP security
Charlie 165.3750 USSS-Field Offices/Protection, command post coordination (Nationwide Primary)
Delta 169.9250 WHCA-Marine Security Detachment, vans
Echo 407.8500 WHCA-SAM Uplink (Air Force 1 phone patch ground uplink)
Foxtrot 415.7000 WHCA-SAM Downlink (Air Force 1 phone patch aircraft downlink)
Golf 166.4000 USSS-Field Offices
165.7625 Input to 165.3750 repeaters
Hotel 167.9000 WHCA-V.P. Staff/White House Garage
165.6875
166.2125 President/VP Security
India 407.9250 USSS-Headquarters (Treasury Security Force)
166.2000
Juliet 170.0000 USSS-Paging/Camp David
Kilo 167.8250 Duplex Phone-Pres Res/LBJ, WHCA
Lima 168.7875 Duplex Phone-Pres Res/LBJ, WHCA (voice scramblers)
Lavender 418.1250 WHCA-Transportation
Mike 165.2125 USSS-Dignitary/Former Pres Protection, Counterfeit Division
November 166.7000 WHCA-White House Staff
Oscar 164.8875 USSS-Presidential Protection Division (PPD), WHCA
Papa 164.4000 USSS-Field Offices/Protection, input to 165.2125 repeaters
Quebec
Romeo 166.4000 Input to 165.7875 repeaters
164.4000 USSS-Repeater Outputs
Sierra 166.5125 WHCA-White House Staff
Tango 164.6500 USSS-Field Offices/Protection, Presidential/VP Security
Uniform 361.6000 AF-1 Communications
165.0875
Victor 164.1000 WHCA, Presidential/VP Protection
Whiskey 167.0250 WHCA-Paging
X-ray ******** SEE BELOW
Yankee 162.6875 WHCA-Presidential phone uplink or downlink
Zulu 171.2875 WHCA-Presidential phone downlink or uplink

Monitor the Secret Service! (2600.com)

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Hmm? That conflicts with the Standard Channels table as far as “Sierra” goes.

“Romeo” doesn’t appear to be a talk channel, per se, but rather a system channel.

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And thank you for the updated tools! I’ve got to make sure to check more frequently for updates.

Something I did notice, the RCG links no longer work, video removed by uploader. I haven’t seen him posting lately either, I hope something didn’t happen.

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I keep planning on making a list of current revisions, and just contemplated doing so this morning, but the radios grabbed my attention. I’ll share another good source on those in another post.

As for @rough_country_gypsy, I think it was just a few days ago I was looking through his drone footage. I’ll check the links in the PPT to see if those work. I do realize that eventually some of those linked sources might dry up. Unfortunately, I don’t have the resources needed to archive them all.

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@redranamber

Here is more information on the number of radios used by each department. Higgins only had 1 for PSP, but this says they used 2.

Well, it does appear @rough_country_gypsy did remove his drone footage. I wonder if he would be open to posting them in the Shared Files.

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Reading the fine print at the bottom of the page, it states: “The above info was gathered from several sources. Not all sources agreed on the same frequencies.” Looks like I have my work cut out for me trying to resolve the conflicts.

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Indeed Sierra does seem to conflict with what we saw before, Romeo appears, if I’m understanding what I’m reading, to be a part of a repeater system for the Baker channel outputting to Papa?

Yeah I caught saw that part a little while ago too. I suppose it makes sense, it is the SS, one wouldn’t expect it to be made easy to find or validate!

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Okay, I was able to confirm “Baker” for the Protection Detail using punctuation, which works grammatically in the two transcripts I tried it in.

Now I just need to think through the “Romeo” channel and how that relates to “Baker.” It appears that Romeo inputs into Baker, which explains how the site agent heard the Hercules 2 radio message about locals having something going on at the 3 o’clock (FYI, the 12 o’clock is the direction the protectee, DJT, is facing at the podium). She was with the Detail Lead and overheard it on his radio, Baker, which also gets input from Romeo as your image states. It’s becoming clearer not. Thank you so much!

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:sweat_smile: I think I may have been reading it backwards, confusing myself, but I’m glad I was able to help you get a clearer picture! Thank you for actually deciphering it!

Along the radio comms line, In his bodycam, Gianvito identifies himself over radio as Alpha-18, calling to 4-command, 4-Delta. I’m not sure if that makes 4-Delta, Tom Shane or R. P. Young, but I had Gianvito as 4A2 before (not 100% where I took it from) so that makes me wonder. I imagine the accurate callsign is the one used on film.

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