So It's Back To First Principles

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I saw that video early on and even saved it using my video editing software. What I didn’t save was a link to the YouTube video. I have tried many times to find it again to no avail. The thing that caught my attention was they both thought it sounded like two different rifles. Whether there were or not isn’t as significant to me as the fact that you can’t get any better witness testimony than that, their impression in real time immediately after the event.

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Timothy Burke jumping the bike racks at 14s climbs up at 22 seconds running in

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That corroborates his testimony!

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Well that eliminates one possibility. It could be a helicopter or maybe a drone.

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https://odysee.com/@m53176:2?view=content

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Thank you! I’ll link to those drone videos in my research tool.

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Here is the message I sent on Greg Nichols’ Youtube site some days ago, with whom I have been in a lot of dialogue over the last two months.

INCREDIBLE BUT TRUE, SHOT 10 WAS FIRED 16 M NORTH OF TRUMP!

I came to the conclusion that obtaining Boom times by calculating tdiff has two major drawbacks: you have to assume the location of the shot and guess the ammunition used.

So I tried to use only the raw data without doing any calculations. So I eliminated Ross, DJStew, Cruiser and, initially, Podium from the simulation. I removed the RAV recording because the time difference between shot 9 and shot 10 is different between the three broadcasts with cuts in the first (18 ms) and the third (7 ms) making it impossible to know the real time difference. I replaced Podium with a recording made nearby: source 1 in Googledrive by bruin_jim. I also used “don’t run”, NTD and “Audio source 4”.

I have the following Boom times:

Source 1: 16.000 s, TMX: 16.272 s, Dontrun: 16.182 s, Source 4: 16.373 s, NTD: 16.076 s.

The positions of these sources are as follows:

Source 1: (586740, 4523400)
TMX: (586730, 4523516)
Dontrun: (586654, 4523415)
Source 4: (586684, 4523545)
NTD: (586691, 4523403.5)

The podium is at: (586726.6, 4523394.3) and the shooter at: (586767.7, 4523529.1)

I get such a perfect convergence that I was surprised myself at (586728, 4523410) or 16 m north of Trump’s position. It seems incredible but the convergence is so good and independent of unknown data that I think it is the right solution. It is so close to the podium microphone that it explains the very loud sound that you took for a Crack when it is a Boom that saturates the recording.

Finally I reincorporated Podium in the simulation but it takes a time difference of 10.030 s between shots 9 and 10 to have the convergence at the same point, that is to say a Boom time of 16.010 s.

I used the same method for shot 9 and I have a very good convergence at (586754, 4523422)

I leave it to you to redo these simulations to confirm my result. And to find the author of the shot! Maybe one guy from HawkEye team you spoke about.

In my simulation, I therefore have 6 sources and 15 hyperbolas all converging at the same point: very impressive!

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Here is a graph showing the 15 hyperbolas. The point (0,0) is the location of the shooter.

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It came from all of the videos @kincses-zsolt just shared. I have never seen it before.
Can you compare it to what you originally saved? This guy obviously has a high-end phone and his youtube is a channel for how-to fixing trucks. There would not be such effects. You can see every goosebump on him in the video, yet when he zooms the windows, everything is a blur:


Yes, that is why I thought this video was so important too. He and his buddy talking about what they observed immediately.

So, you couldn’t find it either when you searched again and now there are mysteriously 200+ rally goer videos available?Odd.

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Unfortunately, because I was trying to save so many videos back then my laptop ran out of memory. When I switched to storing everything Butler related on my backup E-Book, I deleted my video project files and only saved the clips I was using. In this case, it was only the 11 second clip where they talk about different shots. It does look the same as I recall, though.

The other key information it provides is the open windows at the time of the shooting.

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SHOOT! (I remember your moms ipad ordeal.)

I, for one, am relieved that you now have all of your stuff protected and backed-up!
Yah, would be interesting to compare these open window images to other videos. The windows that everyone was saying looked strange, now look strange to me…some examples:




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It looks like there is a breakthrough in the trump rally shooting. A new witness has come forward who was at the rally with her daughter. They saw a shooter up a tree take at least one shot. When law enforement arrived they got the shooter down from the tree and surprise surprise he got away and legged it through the crowd. There were multiple eye witnesses.


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It seems odd to me that windows were open at all. It was ~95F that day, but with all the AC compressors around the buildings they must all be air-conditioned. AGR was closed for the day, so it’s possible the AC was turned down some, or may have been struggling to keep up, but I doubt the counter snipers were cooking inside the building.

They testified that they were instructed to stay back from the windows and try not to be seen. Woods’ rifle in the west room wasn’t so much as nudged based on the 3 CS nest photos, so no one was likely up against that window looking out. Nicol and Murcko did testify to looking out their windows to spot Crooks, with Nicol also taking that photo of him, but neither mentioned opening a window that I’ve read yet.

I recall others with experience saying that it would be better to shoot through a closed (flat) window than an open (angled) window. So, the best I can figure is they were opened to hear things outside better. Since Nicol was moving around more, I can understand him not opening his window. He did testify hearing the crowd just prior to the shooting, which he likely heard through the west window.

With the direction the windows open on the south wall, it would likely give a CS a better shot towards the stage with just the screen to shoot through. There is that advantage.

I never bought into the secret self-sealing glass technology. I should mention that.

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Can you share a link to the video/article/post?

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Twitter John Cullan. He is interviewing the witness tonight. I have known about this shooter with a rifle in the tree for some time now. I think he is the shooter who fired an unknown number of more silent shot[s] towards the crowd and trump after the 10 shots were fired. I could now find any more information on it. It looks like he got down from the tree and legged it. The previous pictures i have shown it looks like secret service running after him.

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Thanks. Personally, I’m not a fan of Cullen or Goodman, but they do occassionally uncover new evidence that’s useful, and that’s what I’m interested in.

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Oof. I hold a fair amount of skepticism for anything Cullen says, though I am curious to see what this amounts to.

Is there any available that pointing to there being more than 10 shots fired? Even quiet firearms make noise, is there any evidence (video/audio) amongst the (now) hundreds of videos of the shooting that leads you to think there were more shots fired?

Here’s a Demolition Ranch video offering a couple examples of very quiet guns (and some not so quiet ones too):
The QUIETEST Assassin Gun Ever Made!!!

Do you know what video those pictures came from?

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The “elephant in the room” is still why there were supposedly just two snipers in the building (Nicol & Murcko), but there were THREE windows open on the south side of the building (plus one on the west side).


An open, unattended, nearby window facing the protectee would be a huge security gaffe. Or was there some so far unnamed person there after all?! This is a thread that needs to be tugged on hard! @cmartenson

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I just looked through Cullen’s x.com feed, back to October 21. and see nothing about new evidence, other than the testimony from Hercules 2 released on the 21st with the DHS Independent Review Panel’s Report. That was about the suppressed shot heard going between them.

Goodman (Crowd Source the Truth) had a show today with Ken Silve (Headline USA) to discuss the evidence Silva recently obtained from PSP about their involvement in the rally. I haven’t reviewed it yet, but the big story is about the motorcycle unit getting disbanded.

https://x.com/JD_Cashless/status/1849458894113751210

https://x.com/HeadlineUSA/status/1849458304545640591

EXCLUSIVE: Pittsburgh Motorcycle Unit Disbanded after Trump Shooting, Official Says | Headline USA

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