So It's Back To First Principles

I often watch videos from a military expert, retired chief sniper. He says, we can believe only what we can see.

With a bullet in the body, MRI should not be possible.
X-rays were almost certainly taken.

Has the FBI even published exactly what ammunition was used?

It should certainly be possible to distinguish a subsonic bullet from a supersonic bullet on the basis of X-ray images.

Perhaps you can persuade Sonja to try to contact Copenhaver. She seems to believe that subsonic ammunition was fired at Hercules 2.

You’re asking the wrong guy. I was a submariner, not a sniper. :sunglasses:

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My wood ladder has a safety chain somehere in the middle, so it is impossible to crawl over a fence or a wall. By the way, someone had a bolt cutter. Maybe they have cut th safety chain. But it is dangerous then, the ladder might be wide open. However, it is still safe to lean against a wall, keep it closed.

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When I was younger as a 6+ foot adult male I could have carried that ladder by myself and did so with similar items many times.

For two people to pick it up, the best way would be if it was laying on its side on the ground. No part of standing it up like it was is helpful for carrying it by multiple people. Now placing it on a ladder rack on a vehicle, then laying one end on the rack and picking the other end up and sliding it into place does work.

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Remember, within two minutes Collins had twice dodged half of the building back and forth. First he watched the roof from south side, then he was hiosted up, and he went back to the south side (but not directly). Also he was close the other picnic table.

I think the television had paid for the footage so he is no longer allowed to make it public. Only a subpoena might rule it over.

Mybe you know the old joke. How many police officers needed to replace a light bulb? :rofl:

My father had a very tall ladder, maybe with 20 rungs. When I was about 15 y/o I helped him to repair his house, but he went to work. So I had to carry that ladder myself, and stood it up against the wall. (Oh, die schöne alte Zeiten.) I also tried to carry it in vertical position, but it fellt down.

First the type of ladder maters. but carrying it is similar for most larger ladders.
You have it on its side and find the balance point and stick your arm through the rungs at that point and put it on your shoulder. It’s best to have it slightly heavier to your rear. How you stand it up depends on the location and whether it is leaned against something or free standing.

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I’ll tell you what, go find the video the screenshot was taken from and when you do we’ll know why it was in that position. I’ll place my money on it not being to search the tree and pull a sniper kit out of it like the person who shared it with Gary Melton said.

I saw no sniper kit being carried by any of the ESU or Butler Twp officers in the bodycam footage, nor did I see one on the grass near the tree or anywhere else. There is also nothing in that bodycam that suggests they were looking in that tree. They were transporting a ladder and that’s the takeaway. The screenshot was carefully selected as disinformation to suggest they were.

Unless the video is found and shows them in the tree pulling a sniper kit out, that’s my personal conclusion, and I’m sticking with it.

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Same comments as above.

That’s the hardest part of the task.

But I cannot really imagine, why they did so. Of course they are not ladderolgists. :slight_smile: Maybe they pretended to seem more incompetent?

However, it was a summer holiday excercise in the school’s maintenance workshop. Two of us had to bring a wheelbarrow of something. The teachers were not there or other adults. Due to the lack of experience and proper coordination, the cargo has landed on the ground. :upside_down_face:
Then the teacher told us: when two (or more) people carry something, one of them must be in charge and conduct the process.

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Falsifiability means we must be able to disprove. Recently there are a lot of hypothesizes which cannot be directly falsified.
The other problem with Karl Popper’s invention, it can be used against society principles. When you’re forced to compare apples to potetoes, not apples to apples.
One expert said: all the societies share about seven similar principles, but with different weight and priority. Usually they are not in conflict. But one may create circumstances they become in contradiction. And that is what some NGOs do to make chaos.

Also bullseye should not ever happen again.

By the way, I have two pictures for you.
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Fly looks like a wasp. camoufly

And just one more thing. ™
Task force report says the counter snipers should not be the first line of protection. (In that case the assasin has the chance to fire first, and the counter snipers might only return fire.)

Some former US-SS CS have said they do not have to wait for someone to fire first. That they can engage without asking permission.

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The hypothesis that shots were fired through a hole in the front of the rear building can easily be refuted.

These shots should be audible on the bodycam recording BWC2.122111.
But the soundtrack was deleted.

There was one thing I forgot to include in my analysis of the ladder “under” the tree (though it’s not actually under the tree, nor even next to it), corroborating the timing using the rally goer in the neon green shirt.

Also, the fence post I initially thought was from the busted gate was actually a post from the Farm Show fence, not the AGR fence. But, if you look at how close the base of the ladder is to the AGR fence, you will see that my belief that they had likely just pulled the ladder away from the inside of the fence after laying it over the fence is very plausible.

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It is quite strange that if Crooks straightened up as visible in this video about 5 seconds after shot 9 and 5 seconds before shot 10, Zalipoli did not take advantage of this to fire a second shot. In his statement he says that he could only see the top of his head and that he was waiting for the opportunity to fire the second shot.
Similarly, CS Hercules 1 could have fired at that moment instead of waiting for Crooks to lie down on the roof again! He had him in his sights at least since shot 3, 9 seconds before Crooks straightened up.

The explanation would be that Crooks scooted further down the north side of the roof, as is evident by where his body was after the kill shot.

I’m curious how you figure he had him in his sights since shot 3.

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