So It's Back To First Principles

Found a hi-res version of our bomb squad truck!:



Truck ID # 156.
Pennsylvania Police Agencies | Flickr

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Arrrgh, apparently this video has been removed, for whatever reason:
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Any chance someone has another valid link, or the video downloaded? This is part of why I like to have the actual files locally sourced, I’m probably going to start archiving videos locally, to hopefully sidestep this issue in the future.

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That IS a nice photo of the bomb squad! Thanks for finding it. I’ll

Another broken link, huh? That’s too bad. Say, weren’t you the one that had some of Gypsy’s drone videos uploaded somewhere? If so, can you share the link again? I must have spaced it when I had the link and didn’t update the Research Tools.

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Unfortunately, that wasn’t me that had those videos stored. It may have been @prayingpatriot , if I recall I was the one that noticed the videos had vanished and someone else had a few of them locally sourced, though I can’t quite remember who.

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I just scrolled through PP’s 93 posts in this thread but couldn’t find it. Oh well.

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My mistake, it wasn’t PP, it was @daniel59 ! (and thank you Daniel for archiving and reuploading these!)

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Great! Thank you. Two more of the Citizen’s Investigation team that are sorely missed, @prayingpatriot and @daniel59.

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3259 photos later :sweat_smile:, this is the closest match I’ve found to these so far. As I figured, you’re probably right about them being EMS vehicles other than police, but I did come across a handful of other boroughs and townships involved in the process, which was interesting. They also seem to be stationed near post 12, though just a little further down towards the North side of the building:

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That’s crazy! It is a close match other than the lettering. And here I didn’t think it looked like a “police” vehicle.

As I’m trying to put the final touches on my “Timeline Analysis - ESU Post-Shooting,” I keep running across more tidbits of information that add to the timeline or connect the dots/fill in the blanks for what I already had. It just seems like a never ending project. It’s interesting and fun, but damn!

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I’m curious if you saw any PSP or BuC Sheriffs vehicles by Post 12. According to Lt. Pearson’s testimony, there was supposed to be a PSP Trooper in the BuC Command Center, but there ended up not being on in there. I doubt it was listed as Post 12, but who knows. There was a PSP radio in the trailer, but it did not work at all.

BTW, in answer to one of your previous questions. Pearson stated that he covered an intersection until 2 pm, then was stationed in the Command trailer. The reason he was in the FOP when he turned his body am on was he took a restroom break. Now we know!

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I haven’t, but partly due to the fact once I noticed these I kinda went off on a tangent trying to id them. I’ll go back through and see what else I can find near that post when I get home.

And it makes sense for it to have been for a restroom break, but why then would it be a ratf if he “turned his camera on”? :thinking:

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Good point…I didn’t stop to consider whether it was RATF.

In case you didn’t already figure it out:

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Try a different map.

I’m guessing they’re Butler County HAZMAT since that was their post.

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In this HAZMAT response video this partial image of a Pittsburg Police vehicle is near the end of the video. Could it be their vehicle’s anyways?

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Nice find on the DoD! I am curious, do you suppose they may have already been on site, as a precaution?

And the two vehicles I’m trying to identify, I do suppose could very well be associated with hazmat, though as far as that map goes, I believe it is not quite accurate. As we see in Pearson’s cam, the EOD truck is located at the corner of the FOP where the map lists the command center, and the command center is seen where the map points to bomb squad, with these two mystery vehicles right on the corner next to it.

I have some supporting screens to illustrate, along with a handful of other emergency/police vehicles in the area, I’ll upload them momentarily.

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My very first thought was they were working the security area where the magnometers were. I only found 1 good video clip of that area and they weren’t in it. They were at the rally though. Two of them, including light blue shirt guy, were seen at the Dutch treatment site.

I did try to find that group on DoD sites without any luck. Any military base would definitely have explosive sniffing dogs, but handlers dressed like that? A likely explanation would be that the USSS did not want them in military uniforms.

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*updated 1/12/25

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Wow! All of that in just 25 seconds of Pearson’bodycam. They don’t call you ‘Eagle Eye’ for nothing.

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https://www.butlercountypa.gov/Directory.aspx?did=15

I thought those cars might be seen on street view, but unavailable.


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https://www.instagram.com/crimewatchdallas/p/C9h9PxquQsY/

but when the gunfire erupted, his phone was in his pocket and he was listening to Trump’s remarks.

“I had no idea I was in the lane of fire between the shooter and President Trump, but when I heard the crack-crack-crack, I knew what that was,” he said. “It was directly behind me, and bullets whizzed like maybe 20 feet to my left.”

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Butler Township PD

https://www.policecararchives.org/pennsylvania/butler.html

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