Audio & Video of the Assassination Attempt

The only external doors I can see for building 8 are door 8 and door 13 at the other end in the two story section. if Crooks had been let in door 13 he could have gone upstairs and gone out the east window onto building 8 roof. This would then give reason for Crooks to run across building 8 roof then cross the lower connect roof to building 6 roof which is what the latest video is showing.

So where does the 2cm wound fit into that?

You say his hair’s covering his ear, but it’s barely covering it in that photo. Other photos (of which there are many) also show no damage.

The ear takes longer than a lot of areas to heal due to the cartilage (but anywhere on the body, a 2cm wound would take much longer than 13 days to have completely healed, regardless of how good the doctors are.) You clearly have no idea about wounds.

The sarcasm in #286 when you say ‘[your] wild conspiracy theory about Trump’s ear is that it got grazed by a bullet…’ makes you look a fool, because claiming he had a 2cm bullet wound that heals within 13 days is a wild conspiracy theory given the evidence.

I understand the vast majority of you are Trump sycophants and the implications of this being true don’t align with your agenda, but just look at the evidence without your cult blinkers on.

‘Now, please drop it or off you go.’ - Lol what authority do you have here?

I don’t have any authority. I just find you ridiculous and insulting, and I think you’re wasting everyone’s time. But, so am I, by trying to get you to shut up. I’ll just ignore you from now on.

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There is no way someone could walk or run across that metal roof without anyone underneath (in the rooms below) NOT hear someone on the roof - PERIOD. I am familiar with this type of corrugated roof and they’re rather obvious when someone is up there working, running and even walking. Unless it’s a machine shop with lots of equipment going at the same time, he would have been heard.

A lot of this story and people that comment on these issues are annoying. I don’t think he would be here in this particular chat if he wasn’t honestly trying to get answers like we all are. It’s rather irritated to me when I hear people state unequivocally that it was the first shot that hit his ear when I know for a fact that it was the second shot and you’d think that someone could get that tiny fact straight, but no.

And likewise, we have seen SO much horse manure with regards to trying to get to the bottom of this story, with new crazy and bizarre elements surfacing each day - I would not discount any story at this point (no matter how ridiculous or annoying)

Case in point being: I just learned yesterday that the head shot wound photo we were given/ leaked was not actually Crooks but a photoshopped image of someone else and that Thomas Matthew Crooks is still alive - who the hell knows WTF is going on at this point. I think we all need to be patient, stay level headed and be willing to follow this story where ever it may lead.

Let’s be careful to not forget who the real enemy is here (and it’s not each other). To be honest, I like trump (voted for ‘em twice), but considering the insiders he appointed in 2016, and his prior friendships with other highly corrupt powerful people - I would not discount anything until proven otherwise. For all we honestly know, this whole thing and all of politics in general) could simply be theater just like WWF (World Wide Wrestling Federation) for rich people.

To make my point here, is to consider how this particular case is a frikken dog and pony show that we’re currently getting in congress right now where they ask ‘some’ hard questions and put on a good show, while no one is held accountable and the slippery individuals involved walk away Scott free. (Sure, Cheatle resigned, but I’m sure she will be appointed somewhere else in a few months when the smoke settles, just exactly how JFK fired one dude that was corrupt, then after JFK was shot, he was appointed to lead the investigation about the JFK shooting (‘effing ridiculous how they do things right under our noses when you really dig into things)

And what’s worse, is that in a few months, they will sweep all this under the rug, no one will be caught or held accountable and we will all forget about it and be worrying about the next event - just exactly like every “event” that’s happened for the last 50 years :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

New video shows THOMAS RUNNING ACROSS ROOF!

Sorry to bother you guys, but please just take a short time out and have a look in the site-reconstruction forum. We need your help to determine some data. Maybe we are onto something? Site Reconstruction of the Assassination Attempt - #127 by roger-knight

Reply on your " Back To First Principles On The Trump Assassination Attempt Peak Prosperity" video.

Im sure someone has commented about the gun but I didnt see it in a cursory search. The sights were 45 degree offset not 90 degree so the brass is still going the same direction just typically (further away) not straight up. Its possible as well that its a cheaper AR that is slightly over gassed which could also cause the cases to bounce off the brass deflector and go forward. Secondly its very likely that the AR had a flash hider (which almost all of the cheaper ARs come with) this is very different than a muzzle brake which you describe in your video as the same thing. Muzzle brakes cause the gases to be directed in certain directions to mitigate muzzle rise and also kick back. Gases are directed up and backwards which counteract physics to help keep the firearm closer to on target. If he had a brake it would definitely alter the sound however brakes are typically longer and beefier looking that what that rifle had. If he had a flash hider it would not alter the sound as it just disperses the gases in all directions equally, tilt of the firearm would be irrelevant.

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Picture 4 source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hsJEvW598E

This tells it all!

Conclusions:

  • the (1st) bullet that grazed Trump’s ear also hit the railing; so the trajectory is established - it is a rising or level shot; unlikely declining (from rooftop position)

(- 2nd bullet hit the spectator half a meter away; indicating the shooter was skilled marksman)
(- guy on the far left ducked out of fear; showing simptoms + only two were injured from this tribune in the aftermath)

  • given the bullet trajectory and the very specific “ending” point, we can clearly draw lines to show the location of the shooter

    • location A is behind a tribune (and line too far out to the edge of the platform)

    • Crooks trajectory is unlikely, and even if we assume, he’s out of line

    • location B is out; the podium would have to be touching the front flag barrier for Trump to be in line

    • could be location C, but it’s still slightly off, and it’s probably blocked by the lift cabin

    • which leaves us with the location D - where Trump is perfectly aligned with the trajectory + it’s completely concealed, assuming it’s an air vent (seeing the video now, it looks like a hatch… how convenient)

  • picture 4 is showing the podium (equaling Trump’s head) alignment with the outer edge/line of the red carpet bridge

Saw Dayve Stewert video (ext. cut) minutes before posting! I’m leaving the post unchanged, just adding a comment: If you’re expecting someone to be on the roof (which they [cops running around] did), you surely don’t (look for -) notice a briefly opened hatch, even if shots are coming out of it; also, the phone was confiscated - possible tampering

Found this comment the other day (regarding first three shots):
Shot 1 may have a slightly different speed and sound due to the barrel being cold. Cold air in the barrel = higher air friction. Each of the waves got progressively faster as the barrel heated from the previous shot.

Additional questions: Where did the SS sniper shot go?
Is it possible for AR to pierce/graze a body and then puncture a hidraulic pipe? (2nd shot)

Determine the height of the tribune (and Trump’s ear), and you’ve got your proof!

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Sound from shot 9 reached Dayve’s video much sooner than the Ross video, and reached the stage before Dayve. It’s delay when comparing shot 10 between stage and Dayve indicates the shot was about 1/3 shorter than sniper 2. This suggests that shot 9 originated from the large field between fences, but much closer to the stage side. Also, it sounded like a pistol.

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Hey Thomas,
I’ve had to put this down for now due to the immense amount of time it took me to make those calculations, but the most relevant data is on that results list I published earlier in combination with those geo points on Google Earth. I’ll include the linear adjusted audio files here if you would like to check them out (simply line them up at the same start position to review).
There are a few other things I might note however:
-First, the reason I am concluding it to be near impossible for both Crooks and a second shooter to be involved is simply due to the complete lack of suitable delay between the first and second set of shots to accommodate for the minimum 85 foot gap between Crook’s position and the nearest window. That kind of spacing would be unavoidable in at least two of the referenced recordings.
-Second, due to the unique sound of the shots in Source5 and it’s close proximity to Crooks position, I only just recently realized I should have performed a spectrum analysis of those shots to determine the actual placement of the report versus the earlier positioned supersonic crack.* Doing this after I published my findings would have positioned Source 5 about 5-8 feet further back, but more importantly, gave a far superior position of the 9th shot, which fell perfectly in line with the other two (right next to the northern barn).
-Finally, Source5 is the only recording with the 10th shot I have available. After hearing about the sniper that supposedly made that 300 yard shot in there, I took a closer look at that one as well and found a distant pop (report?) right at 700-800 ms from the supersonic crack at 2700fps - just the right distance that would support that to be the 300 yard shot.

(edit: - I am using Chris’s SOS estimate at 1203.6 fps for all calculations)
edit2: some more info if needed:
(shooter x distance from podium mic = 465ft)
SOURCE3: (shot8 = 459ft from podium mic)
SOURCE5: (shot4-9 368ft from podium mic)
HES GOT A GUN: (shot8 = 375ft from podium mic)

*reason for the correction on the data of Source5: notice the actual report used to measure the distance occurring after the sonic crack…

Here’s the map updated for Source5…

(edit - updated image for clarity)

Here’s the aligned audio files…

Hes Got A Gun.wav

podium reports isolated.wav

Source 3.wav

Source 5.wav

Added a bit more info above

got the coordinates (easier than I thought) :slight_smile:

assigned coordinates:
Source3/1: 40°51’29"N 79°58’16"W
Source3/8: 40°51’29"N 79°58’17"W
Source5/1: 40°51’28"N 79°58’13"W
Source5/4-9: 40°51’28"N 79°58’13"W
Hes Got A Gun/1: 40°51’28"N 79°58’13"W
Hes Got A Gun/8: 40°51’28"N 79°58’12"W
podium mic: 40°51’25"N 79°58’15"W

Video is showing Crooks DURING the first shot, and he looks way to high for the aim.

position
Note: elevation and trajectory may be possible; but this aiming position looks unlikely.

“AuroraHayes: I know for a fact that it was the second shot [that hit his ear]” Really?

Frontal videos of Trump speech show him reaching for his ear (splitsecond) BEFORE the 2nd snick.

(assuming a second shooter, I also find odd that a pro sniper would miss 3 times in a row; but then there’s the SS team, with top gear, and it was still “one in a million” shot)

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In case anyone is interested, I updated what I am calling a 2D-audio analysis – for estimating the Shot 9 shooter position. It still is a very rough analysis wherein I had to spit-ball some assumptions and measurements from sound tracts in Chris Martenson’s podcast reporting at PP.

The interesting aspect of the updated Shot 9 position is that it is close to or on the utility shed at the base of a light/cell tower that is on the Butler fairgrounds. Also, the grade/ground level at the location appears to be significantly higher than the lower WAPO reported Shot 9/Shooter position (behind the north bleacher) - which makes the line-of-sight to Crooks death position much better for the former proposed updated position.

One question is whether a shooting position located on the utility shed at the base of the tower - would have a line-of-sight obstruction by the low tree off the S-W corner of AGR BLD#6.

The WAPO reported position of the Shot 9/Shooter position is very hard to reconcile with the comparative analysis of the gunshot audio evidence – particularly when comparing audios from Source 2 (“he’s got a gun” video) and Source 6 (the David Stewart video).

If someone has a better or alternative audio comparative analysis and explanation that jives with the WAPO report – I hope they can post it – and set me straight – I am not afraid to eat humble pie. :blush:

Best of luck all.

pbd

honestly, i cant find any reasons to think that crooks was there to shoot. He must have believed he is acting for some reality tv. esp considering he combed his hair at sometime.

Imagine this. CIA handler pretends as a casting agent and hires him. Tell him we are shooting a documentary about possible ways trump can be shot and he will be the actor in it. Do you have an AR15 at home you could use? Yes. Alrite. Here is how you do. we have cameras all around tracking your move. This is the way you can get on top of the building. This is the position where you will be lying down with your gun and pretend to shoot. When you hear the sounds of gunfire from the speakers in next building, you pretend to pull the trigger. Its all been arranged with the police and SS so you will have nothing to worry about. Prior to this we will shoot a video of you scouting the premises using a drone and a rangefinder.

This is mostly an outline of what i think could have made the chain of events work out the way it did.

He lift up his head once he realize crowd is shouting at him and perhaps its not a reality tv show and happening for real and then got shot from ESU or whoever.

There was no time for him to figure out where to setup, how to get there, no practice runs, no fail safe no nothing. thats not believable that someone 20 made it that far on the very first attempt in a perfect spot to shoot at trump and between all the noises and chaos and cops chasing him, managed to graze trumps ear with his 1st shot. its too far fetched.

ofcourse its all just my imagination but plausible.

One thing that makes me the most upset is that we have to expend unbelievable, unimaginable amounts of time and energy thinking about things like this because of the total dysfunction of our investigatory agencies. If this country was not currently dying from corruption, we would have known over a week ago e.g. whether slugs that hit victims were ballistically matched to Crooks’ rifle, what fingerprints if any were on the shell casings, etc. The FBI’s actual job seems to be to swoop in and collect all the evidence to prevent anyone else from finding out what happened.

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SS team # 2 guns & ammo info in this video. SS team #2 shot rooftop boy

I previously sent you what I saw on video that night that SS team #2 took the 1st 3 shots…Look at the hand movements. The original video I saw July 13th showed the rifle being shot at 3 different angles. the gun aim was #1 -swung left & low DT?, #2 lifted & high rooftop shot? (in the far bleachers?) & #3 pulled down & in towards their body was a a little lower than #2 shot so I believe was the dk haired bearded moustache (David Dutch who was hit in the chest & liver) guy high in the middle bleacher behind DT-who they Mistook for a Youtuber who 2 days prior said ‘DT should be taken out’

This is the picture that they thought was the Youtuber who made the threat & thought David was him in the stands (see pics of Police officer with blue glove on holding up David’s arm. ‘Shooter down’