https://twitter.com/toobaffled/status/1829693014765396422?s=61&t=4P3Wik9eKYOjUMeVgtVLeA
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Sometimes it is a matter of choosing between the best of two evils. If the best you can do is go for lesser quality and cheaper meat and eggs or highly processed foods and meat, go for the lesser quality and cheaper version with the least amount of harmful things you can afford.
He did mention to look for a version of the lesser quality products that have the least amount of junk in it. Start at least somewhere and then move to better options as you move along. Continuing eating junk while you sit and wait for when you do get the energy and means to opt for better meat and food sources, isnāt a viable option at some/ this point. Itāll get you nowhere. At least you stand a chance with the bad yet better option of the two.
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LOL I was thinking about balony and read balcony as the foodā¦Made for a ?? readā¦
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True balony would be better than white bread with jelly. BUT cheap is also beans and riceā¦Gotta be better then processed meat like that. And I think you could get more out of your meal.
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Thank you so much for this talk! I already only shop the outside of grocery stores, because I have celiac disease as well as other allergies (corn, soy, sensitivities to turkey and pork). I wonder if I ate only beef, butter, bacon and eggs for a month if my problems with turkey and pork would disappear. Right now I am busy harvesting foods from my garden, including tomatoes, which are likely a no-no. After I preserve everything, I will try to go no carb or very low carbā¦which is basically what I eat anyway.
I found it all very interesting, so thank you very much.
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Thereās a caveat for beans and rice. Cooked improperly can do quite some harm. Most people buy canned beans, which in and of itself usually is already bad, filled with additives and sugars. Proper processing takes time, which most people wonāt take when it comes to preparing meals.
Beans need to be soaked and then cooked for quite some time. When soaking I add baking soda and satureja montana (mountain/ winter savory) and let it sit for 24 hours and then cook them for another 3 (again with satureja montana with some other herbs, spices sometimes with or without vegetables). Both the soaking and cooking time help reduce/ remove the antinutrients and components that can lead to gass and bloating. Some beans, like soy beans and chickpeas, I even peal of the outer casing. This is also time consuming, yet worth it to me. The hummus and pastes come out smoother and I donāt have that outer layer challenging my digestive tract.
Rice cooked, frozen and then reheated is a better option than just cooked. Here again, how many people would take the time to do this. The same goes for good quality, proper pasta.
It all comes down to: do whatever you can to turn things around. Start somewhere and tweak as you go and your body, knowledge and skills improve. Once the first domino falls, the rest follows and soon we find ourselves making and affording better choices.
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the other thought that bothered me was his reference the the self perceptions of being āhealth challengedā after the mid fifties; to me, that is a pretty low bar to improve on. I can appreciate that in the population at large, and maybe that is his client base. We almost all self report having a āhealthyā diet, widely varied as it might be. At my stage (76), swimming 3/4 miles a day (may miss a day or 2 a week) year round, I usually donāt feel āoldā, (subject to change without notice) and on no presc. meds. I am undoubtedly past my best before date; am above his 100 gms per day, and, try and respect the glycemic index, (and being a bit of a foodie, what I like to eat most!)
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I agree. He does have some good points but quality does matter. Eating an organic home grown apple is far better and less toxic then say GMO sprayed with APEEL shit and sit on the shelf for 6 months and coming from China. Real meat Is good balonyā¦not so much.
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Thatās awesome! My dad who died was 78 no pills but vitamins.Had no health issues,was chopping wood 3 months before he died. .He ate real food ( we were raised on a farm) What got him in the end was DDT He got cancer from that shitā¦Those fuckers who made that shit and passed it out to farmers should go straight to hell.
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This sounds like a very balanced approach to diet. Thank you and happy to hear about your progress with MS.
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Like many in the America, I live in a two income household. Both I and my wife work full time jobs. The labor and skill required to create a whole foods diet is not a huge or impossible task IF one adult member of the family is working on that task (and many other household tasks). If all the adults int he household are out trading labor for Federal Reserve Coupons ā¦ well, we live with the results today.
Home-making is, actually, a serious business with major impacts on civilization as a whole. The business of taking one adult out of the incoming cash flow equation and substituting their cash for labor in the household - the economics of that will lead to healthier food decisions as well as a host of other decisions regarding child rearing, relations with neighbors, religion, local politics, and the national identity.
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Refrigeration for at least 24 hours cooked rice, potatoes and oatmeal slows down the digestion of these foods and so lowers the blood glucose spike. Thereās a scientific term for this but canāt remember it.
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You tube has linked up with the WHO and anything posted on YouTube that is contrary to WHO policy is now defined as disinformation.
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Iāve watched hundreds probably thousands of health videos on youtube since covid. And I pay attention to the comments too. Youāll find people swearing by vegan diets. Same with carnivore. I am less impressed with vegans. Mic the vegan does a pretty poor shotgun approach to analyzing studies which support veganism. Heāll summarize multiple videos in a video without spending any time diving into the conflicts of interest or how the trial was set up, etc., like Chris does. Seems to have an agenda. Plus vegans just look terrible. A few days ago he was saying its bad to eat honey since bee are invasive lol. The fact that it was impossible to be a vegan several decades ago before we had access to all these foods and supplements to address various plant deficiencies should give you an idea. Iām also not super impressed with the full carnivore keto people either, but at least you know they arenāt promoting a WEF agenda.
Theres lots of debate on what the ācorrectā diet should be, probably because there isnāt one since we evolved as opportunivores, eating what we could. And everyone is different, reacting differently.
I do āpaleoā or animal based, lots of animal fat and protein, my only carbs come from fruit and some veggies. No processed anything, no bread. Intermittent fasting, good exercise routine. Iām in fantastic health at 50. I noticed my VO2 max has gone down a bit which Iām trying to reverse. May not be possible. 
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I believe that may be referred to as āretrogradationā.
Seeing 2 of my favorite humans have such a great conversation makes me super happy! 
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Everything is possible. Just put your mind to it and have faith. Your VO2 was there once, it can get there again. You just need to find out what changed to have it drop and then correct it. That is the more challenging part. Keep your head up and know deep down inside you can reverse it and maybe even get it to a better level than before.
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I have to say I was shocked to hear him say Spam and hot dogs were good.
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I hesitate to even comment on this topic because it can become even more emotional than discussing politics! And what becomes one persons guiding principle is another persons opposite guiding principle, sort of like Newtonās Third Law of Motion where both states can be true. While I agree with some things Dr Berry promotes, I would definitely push back on other areas promoted as a dietary solution.
I also have spent a lot of time researching nutrition and it does gets frustrating! You can literally find any number of doctors, researchers, published journal articles and institutions who promote and justify any and all types of diets and dietary consumption patterns out there. A lot of people have a self interest be it for research funding sources, sales of supplements, books, conferences, or other media click bait. One can find RCTs, observational or case studies or published personal accounts of people being cured of all sorts of maladies by following virtually any of the eating patterns being promoted.
At the end of the day most dietary camps agree on some basic concept that negatively impact human health - processed foods, added sugar (although the good doctor seems to be good with sugar on spam combo), seed oils, to much alcohol, smoking, big pharm, big ag, vaccines and not enough exercise and mental gymnastics (thereās probably some that disagree with this basic list). If the diet wars and associated food pushers can stop then maybe progress can be made on the agreed areas to the betterment of human health and establish a better baseline from which to move forward on the details.
For what my story is worth, Iāve been basically a carnivore for about 60 years. About the only veggie I would eat would have to be smothered in butter and bacon bits, and tomatoes could only be in the form of ketchup for my french fries. I was not overweight and generally in good health. In my 60ās I watched both my parents die a slow agonizing death from dementia. I vote that as the worst way to go. I asked the doctors what my odds of dementia were and got no response. I was determined to try and find a solution or at least a path that would lesson the probabilities. So I went into a deep dive into nutrition, lifestyle and some genetics. I came out of that dive willing to try a different lifestyle where dementia is rare (hint, the blue zones which are more plant based). I didnāt want to do it, but I gave myself a 30 day challenge to eat nothing but a whole food plant based diet (and yes, lots complex carbs and grains too!) just to see if I could do it. To my great surprise my tastebuds really changed! I lost 45 pounds, my blood pressure dropped, my cholesterol was almost cut in half and I was able to get off my thyroid medication. Iāve never felt better and I started backpacking after retiring and have so far covered over a 1000 miles on the Appalachian Trail, not too bad for being 71.
All this to say that in a lot of ways, human biology is too complex to absolutely know what works for you may not be the path that works for someone else. Therefore, hopefully agree on the main things and show some grace for alternative paths that people research and choose for themselves. These other paths can absolutely be very successful. I know people who switched to a plant based diet and reversed type 2 diabetes, minimized type 1 diabetes, got out of a wheelchair due to MS, cured Lupus and a host of other autoimmune diseases, etc.
And lastly, feel free to tell your story of success and weāll all celebrate. It might be confusing (just as the āscienceā is conflicted), but we can be happy for the good results. But in the process, donāt become a food pusher, that gets really old very fast!
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Can you clarify what your diet is now? You went from carnivore to vegan? Or do you still eat both?