When I’ve been in ketogenic diets before, I used this website in the beginning: https://www.ketogenic-diet-resource.com/ This woman is a wealth of information. I also like this keto calculator and used to use the free version of My Fitness Pal to track my macros, but it’s no longer free for this usage.
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Yup–after several rounds with keto, I now know it’s the way I eat.
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I am a firm believer that there are different optimal diets for different people.
But getting rid of processed food is good for everyone.
If you have autoimmune markers or diagnosis, veggies can be problematic. Vegetables can have 3 types of anti nutrients or toxins: oxalate, lectins and phytates. Lectins in many veg disrupt gut bacteria. Broccoli and cauliflower is hard on my inflammation but are known to be very anti-inflammatory so maybe some people are more susceptible to the toxins.
I have been carnivore for 5-6 years and my inflammation is gone. Can walk around and my autoimmune markers are low.
However, I didn’t lose weight. And I need to. So there is something missing.
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In the for what it’s worth category (and not meant to stir controversy, but just FYI for consideration). Years ago I came across this chart from an MD writing about the comparative anatomy and evolutionary development of the digestive systems of carnivores, herbivores, omnivores and humans. He was from the plant based persuasion so there’s that (but the same caution would apply to other persuasions as well - who can you believe these days!). I haven’t taking the time to validate the chart and unfortunately some of the summary statements are a bit short. But, if it’s factually accurate (or essentially so) then it certainly makes one say “hmmm, that’s interesting”.
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Low/No Carb - I practice intermittent fasting – 16-19 hours fasting and 5-8 hours eating windows. I eat mostly whole, unprocessed foods avoiding especially high fructose corn syrup/added sugar, ultra-processed grains, and seed oils. I include olive oil, butter, protein, lots of nuts. I’m fine until 1-3 pm next day before mental acuity drops. If I binge the night before on tortilla chips (love chips and salsa) or occasional sweets, I’m likely to be more anxious and jittery by 10-11 AM.
Dr. Berry mentioned mental health and depression - I’ve heard that mentioned by others including Casey and Calley Means. I attribute my anxiety reduction to improved diet (including lower carbs) + better sleep + prayer.
Is there malice and ill intent from various agency heads, food and drug executives, etc., or is it ignorance and incompetence (but not actual evil intent)? The CoVid examples Chris gave with flipping the coin and coming up heads 5 times (and he just started on that list) was compelling and obvious to those of us awake. The food impact on health may not be quite as obvious - but then, if the powers that be OK a large % of diet in babies from sugar, and enact or don’t say anything when the new answer from FDA/CDC for overweight kids is Ozempic, then it becomes obvious. That should NOT be OK. I’m assuming I posted my comment above on FaceBook it would be dinged if too many people liked it(?).
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The culture of food is left behind in this thread and to my way of thinking it is a big barrier to connecting cause and effect. I had a discussion with an MD who did a phd in nutrition, I could not convince him that paying as much for olive oil with a known pedigree was as important as an good domaine name quality wine. Our likes have been hacked by the food industry and manipulated by media
The Dorito Effect: The Surprising New Truth About Food and Flavor Paperback – March 15, 2016
by Mark Schatzker (Author)
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Very well put.
I think who ever first said. We must agree to disagree, should get the noble peace prize. Don’t you feel better if you can’t meet eye to eye with someone. Saying that it just feels like your still friends.
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Thanks for the info reinforcing much of what I already have researched.
On Chocolate, its interesting studies have shown high levels of heavy metal content directly proportional to the percentage of cocoa and depending on the supplier. For instance Ghirardelli has much lower levels than Lindt. Check out Consumer Reports testing.
On prescription drugs, I’m very leary but what do you do when you are lucky enough to have a warning minor heart attack while previously having afib and a pulmonary embolism, have a 90% blockage in one artery, have a stent employed to clear the blockage and the heart doctors follow years of protocol in prescribing Xarelto blood thinner, Clopidogrel blood thinner, Metoprolol beta blocker, Atorvastatin cholesterol control and Lisinopril heart shaper? I’m at their mercy so to speak. My dear old dad lived to age 96 fully functioning taking many of those drugs. Hope I’m as lucky as him while being proactive in life style changes.
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Good point with the bugs being some kind of protein based condiment like one might add as a thai food salad peanut based dressing or adding nuts and meats to the salad. Bugs? Not for me. I had the opportunity a few times to experience cost free living and dead bugs in my restaurant salads that I did return for refund. 
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Bumped into this page on subject might be interesting to you.
Why Am I Not Losing Weight on the Carnivore Diet? 5 Common Culprits – Carnivore Snax
Appears that stress can be holding you back too, plus few other things like too many calories consumed.
Great great video… Finally someone from proper human diet space… Long long overdue but it’s never to late to get on right path to health…! love it and can’t wait to see you all at summit!
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I think it would… I watched tons of videos from carni doctors and I’m some of them they said that carnivore will optimize your weight… Both ways…
I believe he didn’t say that… He said that we always ate some carbs but mostly as a survival food or as a bridge to get us meat…
I’d there would be choice we would ALWAYS choose fatty meat…
Why not??
Giving you choice of either cereals or bologna… You decide what’s better for you…
He didn’t say it’s ideal…
On prescription drugs, I’m very leary but what do you do when you are lucky enough to have a warning minor heart attack while previously having afib and a pulmonary embolism, have a 90% blockage in one artery, have a stent employed to clear the blockage and the heart doctors follow years of protocol in prescribing Xarelto blood thinner, Clopidogrel blood thinner, Metoprolol beta blocker, Atorvastatin cholesterol control and Lisinopril heart shaper? I’m at their mercy so to speak. My dear old dad lived to age 96 fully functioning taking many of those drugs. Hope I’m as lucky as him while being proactive in life style changes.
Wow, you have a though ride there too. Big sick-care, big pharma and friends have done a number on you. Never a dull moment with life, I guess.
I join in the hope that you get to mimic your father’s trajectory in the sense that he got to live to such a wonderful age and fully functioning. On top of that I hope that you get to reduce and better yet one day completely stop the need for the medication, that you find what works for you and get the body to function well on its own.
The sad thing is, MD’s get us on all these drugs, yet they don’t know how to get us off of most of them. You are in a very tricky situation and in that sense can’t just start on a journey towards natural interventions without someone keeping a close eye on you. For example, there are natural blood thinners like sweet grass and other herbs out there, yet you can’t just start taking that while on Xarelto for your blood may get to thin and cause a host of other problems. It would need to be a collaboration of the two fields where you increase the utilization of the one and reduce the other and digging deeper in the root causes of all the problems in the first place. Otherwise, you’ll be exchanging one band-aid for another, though the natural band-aids usually support the body in regulating itself and healing, contrary to the man-made and man-manipulated versions of those same god-created natural sources.
With the collective knowledge, experiences and anecdotes here on PP, we find our way through the jungle we find ourselves in. With the small changes we make as we learn and try new things, we slowly change course, much like a huge tanker course correcting. It may take longer than we would like. With hope, determination, dedication and lots of love, among other things, we get there where we desire to be or at least near it. We are already ahead with such a great group of people here.
That is a great suggestion indeed. People just have to get used to the idea that bone is a valuable resource and not just left-overs you throw away. Bone broth alone on its own is already great. Getting the bit of meat that is still stuck to the bone, which no one wants to bother to scrape of, is a bonus.
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In a course I followed this year the image below was part of the study material. I have a better one somewhere. It shows the digestive tract of mankind compared to that of omnivores and carnivores, basically placing us in the middle of the bunch indicating we are built to eat both ways, in moderation. There are things that we can’t do that a full on herbivore or carnivore can do, or at least not as optimally as they can. Still, our system is built to handle both to a degree.
In the picture you shared the creator of it, in my opinion, failed to take a few things into account. Just to name a few.
- Our facial bone structure changed over the centuries, getting smaller and smaller, which was correlated with the change in our diet (and proper breathing) with eating softer and cooked foods having less impact on the teeth and jaws and requiring less chewing. Mankind used to have wider mouth and jaws. Even now we can see the reverse happening, how our jaw structure adapts to what we eat and how we breathe even beyond the formative years. Even our teeth get weaker or stronger based on what we eat.
- Our set of teeth are one of the most diverse out there with teeth, having three different types, the front teeth, the canine teeth in the corner and the molars, to cut and to chew, despite the changes over the centuries. There’s a noticeable difference between our teeth and those of our ancestors (pre-industrialization at least).
- We lack the typical wide range chewing and grinding motion of herbivores. We can mimic that a bit, yes. Still, our jaws are fairly restricted that way, allowing us to chew plants to some degree.
- We are less adapt to break down certain plant foods and digest them to the form our body absorbs better/ best. The chewing motion, the multiple stomachs and the regurgitation of food to chew them some more before the final swallow are among other things we lack to digest plant foods more optimally.
- The chart only focusses on saliva in the mount, discarding the digestive enzymes that are released elsewhere in the digestive tract breaking down fats and proteins where they are best absorbed. Even then, we still lack certain enzymes to break down certain plant components like oxalates and such, which can cause problems in some people.
Diet for mankind is as simple as it is complex. The basics is same for all, the details differ on your ancestry, which evolutionary markers were passed down to you, what you are exposed to to which your body adapted better to etc. There is no one size fits all, never was and never will be.
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Thanks for the link.
For others the article says (from memory) :
- you are eating too many calories
- you aren’t exercising
- you have hormonal problems (example thyroid)
- it’s too early
- inadequate water intake
- you have nothing left to lose
None of those apply except the exercising but I have chronic fatigue.
I think it is somehow linked to the high fasting blood insulin I have still after 5 years on carnivore diet.
Pretty sure I’d either be dead, or on dialysis if I hadn’t gone carnivore when I did. I had some bad stuff going on blood sugar wise. Have managed to stay out of the sugar/processed food realm since March. Never could have done that without stopping the carbs almost entirely. I adore Dr. Berry, and Dr Chaffe.
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