Bongino and Patel should have considered SERIOUS threats, to self, family, and finances, before they took the job. It seems like they didn’t.
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Honor and shame are two very different social currencies. We still have shame - cancel culture is pure shame. We don’t like it because we want honor, but Asia runs entirely on shame. See the work of Whatifalthist on the topic and a geographical map on the matter.
Yep. I wouldn’t have, either, but I don’t think I bend my honor to my tribe in the face of threats. Perhaps I need to stay away from such responsibility. I suspect Tulsi may not bend, and she has no kids to target (infertile).
You don’t think she’s already bent? Are you aware of her stances on Israel? (look at this from September last year for example: Tulsi Gabbard is now team Trump. What are her views on the Middle East? | Middle East Eye – Or could it be that that stems from her Hindu roots, making her rather allergic to all things Islam? [whatever the roots of it, I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t have got anywhere near any government post if she’d voiced that Israel should be constrained in any way])
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Well, she sure got squashed when she tried to hire Daniel Davis. He likes Israel, wants them to defend themselves yet tells the truth, with receipts about Gaza and Netanyahu running US Middle East policy.
Davis investigated, discovered, revealed all the corruption of US generals, contractors, politicians, MIC in Afghanistan with inarguable proof and ALL receipts before Congress. Not one senator or congressman had any argument against the facts and data he presented yet his life had to be destroyed. Kind of a historic pattern. So, yeah, I agree. I think Tulsi was turned like Bongino and Patel.
I like to relisten to Chris’ December interview with Dave Collum regarding the rumor of how they turned Bernie Sanders. Kinda chilling, but damn effective:
“who was told, she was a survivor, she was there, she said, he was told you’re going to have sex with this five-year-old, don’t worry, she’ll be okay.
or we’re going to kill these three kids right here, right now. You make the call.” And she said, he was a broken man. He had sex with the five-year-old. And someone said, who was it? And she said, was Bernie Sanders. And I’m going, what’s the fact? Is that true? Is it not true? I don’t know.
But if you’re faced with that choice, what do you do?"
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Defunding USAID was a good start at a similar strategy of uprooting these foundations of power in the U.S. Let’s see how the rest goes. This war won’t be won in a day, and there will be casualties, people who shrink from the challenge, and some outright turncoats.
This isn’t a call to “trust the plan, man.” It’s a recognition that the rot is deep in DC, and the cold civil war (let’s call it what it is) to dig it out is hard work that won’t be accomplished in six months.
Having said that, we need to see some figurative public hangings soon. I have some vague hopes that we may see action on July 13th, but if we don’t see any real action by the end of this year, it’s gonna be “man the lifeboats, we’re screwed – again!” time. The exact form that takes remains to be seen.
Kill every criminal present. Go down fighting, like a human being. These are children, for God’s sake.
I do understand how this is the sort of ultimate leverage these evil bastards wield. Sudden, unexpected violence is the only answer when confronted with such.
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You attempt to stop more evil. You die fighting. If you get killed, you get killed with honor and dignity, and at least you never became a perp of evil.
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It’s real easy to say that and I agree. However, Sophie’s choice was a reality. “John the Beatle” who chopped off a man’s head just after the man spewed the ISIS propaganda was a reality. He didn’t refuse.
In 1984, I was interrogated by Mossad. It was “friendly” and took place at Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv on a special area tarmac far from the main terminal just after I landed my helo. I almost pissed my flight suit with the highly personal things he could only know if he were inside my house. None of the things he knew were in my records, my FBI TS files, or US embassy files in Tel Aviv. It took 2 weeks minimum for a letter to get from me to my wife and two weeks minimum (many times a month) for her letters to get to me. No phones, period. And zero info in my letters or hers or anyone else’s had the info about my life the Mossad knew about. But that’s not the scariest part. When he showed me a glossy color of my wife shopping in the local Jacksonville, NC mall, taken the day before my interrogation, I almost shit my flight suit. See how that works? You’re a brave stud now and rightfully so. Not so much when there is no good choice.
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See my comment to Hurricane Rider.
I have been wondering same but about J6. I read somewhere that this was previously rehearsed(2-20?) and I believe they will cheat again 2028 but worse this time since most are aware. Trump asked for National Guard(NG) but was denied, videos show normal barricades were removed which provided easy access for unarmed patriots to be waved INTO capital by Capital Police(CP) and at an exact time all the uniforms started shooting at patriots with rubber bullets, mace, batons and murdered unarmed Ashley. Videos prove CP were just watching and escorting patriots through capital then attacking them. Even CP chief spoke up but was fired and 1000’s of video were deleted by democrats. Ray Epps and many more were obvious plants and actual CP aiding are still being paid and threatened but no one but CP chief has morals? Not to mention Amy Coney Barrett siding with liberals 75% or recusing herself. Her sister was threatened so is she afraid, if so since she is young, why doesn’t she resign instead of being afraid for the rest of her career. Is she waiting to resign until a dem gets cheated in again? Or a coup? I see this as a real possibly unfortunately
the only thing I can believe about Epstein, is that the garrot wound on his neck, was not self inflicted, or caused by a hanging. Everything else is someone’s narrative. The stated official account is so hard to believe, it must be intentionally so, just so everyone knows.
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Further to what @preppy said, perhaps (quite likely) the Epstein stuff includes dirt on people that Trump & Co. don’t want released. Given Bongino is loyal to Trump, that would stop him.
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Thanks to all for their responses to my query about how to free ourselves from such a foul force.
We got: prayer and a decision to love; a strategic, long term approach of undermining the supporters of TPTB instead of directly attacking a more powerful entity; building incorruptible alternate institutions. These are all thought-provoking answers and I’m including them in my understanding.
I find this thread so disturbing, as you all bring in your knowledge and experiences clarifying the depth and depravity of the corruption within our power structures. I was extraordinarily blessed to be raised by 1000% committed and inspired (albeit deeply flawed) parents in an amazingly free location. We roamed the mountainsides, home-schooled, no TV, raised as much by the land and our animals as by human culture. It left me with a foundation of goodness - hard to describe, like a core of existential trust in the goodness of life on Earth. Corruption… seemed less real than actual reality.
So now, after all that CV revealed, now that I’m paying much more attention, I have to digest just how far gone we are morally as a species. Chris laid out the resource and monetary situation very clearly back in 2010, when I stumbled upon his first Crash Course series. I got all that. But this is a few levels deeper into our predicament. We human don’t seem to have the wisdom or ethics to conduct an actual civilization. It always devolves into extreme,insane corruption.
OK I have about 100 baby tomatoes to figure out what to do with. It keeps going down to 5 C at night, and my greenhouse is not heated, so my tiny cabin is full of 18" high plants that can’t leave yet, plus the guy helping with fencing is coming over any minute. I’ll just have to finish addressing corruption some other morning…
But I do know, deep in my core, that we humans are blessed to be here and that we regard this creation and our opportunity to be humans with a bright and joyous love. It’s my job to remember this and keep singing praise even while I Iearn about depravity.
Respect and appreciation to you all
Susan
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Yes, Maxwell’s father was a Mossad asset and also involved in all sorts of dodgy criminal dealings. He died in very mysterious circumstances after apparently having fallen off his luxury yacht in the middle of the Atlantic …
She’s still alive, hidden from the cameras. Would not be surprised if she’s not actually in jail.
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Is there any rationale for an honest, good person in their position to lie to the public?
It suggests the consequences of releasing the truth are significantly worse than lying, however difficult it may be for them. Would lying save many lives? Maybe.
I can see a moral person deciding to lie in such a case. Not sure if that’s the case here, but putting it out there as a possibility.
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1984 thats pre internet, pre smart phone, pre smart fridges, pre satellite connected cars… and back in the cash and check era…
now multiply that times 1000… unless you are electronics free out in woods everything you do and every where you go today is being tracked and recorded
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About a decade ago, on a car forum I was admin on, we had an asshat that started a scam selling car parts he didn’t actually have. As the forum was getting wound up, somebody posted a photo of his children playing in their front yard. No comment, not threat, just the photo. Suddenly people got their money returned and he left the forum. Message sent, message received.
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Yes, I know exactly how this works. And I know from context what being called a ‘stud’ here means. I always enjoy when people address me in this sort of way; it wonderfully clarifies the situation.
You do not know me, nor anything in my background. I’m just some guy on the internet. However, please trust me in this: if you’re going to share a playground with the Mossad or similar, have a back-up plan for those you love.
Now, back to the real discussion. If Dave Collum is right and Bernie Sanders was in fact faced with this diabolical choice, look at his real options: (a) rape the 5yo, see the pics, forever be their slave; (b) watch three kids get snuffed; (c) toss the chessboard and hope that the brutal murder of a prominent US senator is a big enough signal flare that it can’t be covered up. If Dave’s right, Bernie chose door (a).
Dave Collum is handling some dark stuff. I don’t believe he’s published his report on this yet. If he never does, I can see why. I hope he has taken adequate safeguards, or has planned for a sufficiently anonymous publication of anything he’s got. This could well be the hinge on this Fourth Turning, and those are damned dangerous things.
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the strategy that comes to minds is to present the lower, of least profile possible (although that could also be a flag too). VPN, leave phones at home, eschew posting on social media, tape on camera(s), keep using cash…
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