Not the context I was using when referring to honor/shame as social currency. Shaming, or attempts to shame in the absence of honor as social currency truly means nothing, especially in regards to the media. Every year ‘journalists’ covet receiving a prize bearing the name of the father of yellow journalism.
Where / when did Collum discuss this? Curious. Thanks.
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From an interview with Chris back on December 27th. Here’s the link: https://peakprosperity.com/bad-news-the-problems-are-bigger-than-trump/
Here’s the quote from the transcript:
Dave Collum (02:06:32.102)
And so then I’m listening to a survivor talking about how she said, I’ve never seen a grown man look so crushed. She said, here was this US senator who was told, she was a survivor, she was there, she said, he was told you’re going to have sex with this five-year-old, don’t worry, she’ll be okay.
or we’re going to kill these three kids right here, right now. You make the call." And she said, he was a broken man. He had sex with the five-year-old. And someone said, who was it? And she said, was Bernie Sanders. And I’m going, what’s the fact? Is that true? Is it not true? I don’t know.
But if you’re faced with that choice, what do you do?
Chris Martenson (02:07:20.29)
Well, I was convinced, know, shadow of a doubt that watching the DNC crush Bernie over and over again, right? You know, and he shows up with a black eye after losing the primary that one year, but got a lake house, right? Again, disconnected facts, you know, all these things, but watching how much they hated Tulsi Gabbard tells me that Tulsi probably doesn’t have a control file. Like they tried because otherwise the DNC should have loved her woman minority army vet, all these things, right?
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That is not a weapon to be wielded over such a small matter as money. Or ever, for that matter.
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It’s generic masculine like older books used “he” meaning male and female. I used stud to indicate bravery from anyone, male or female, sitting in their Barkalounger at home, including me. If it was offensive, I apologize. I certainly didn’t mean it that way. And you’re right, I don’t know you.
Thanks for the tip but at the time, I didn’t have a choice in 1984 from six thousand miles away from my wife while I was flying every day off the USS Guam in HMM261 for the Marine Corps for seven months. Plus, I had flown to Israel and stayed the night a few times before sans any encounter (that I was aware of) with Mossad. This particular night happened to be a very non-routine flight, and bizarre requests from a US general I flew from Lebanon to Tel Aviv under fire, and a chance meeting with three Irish soldiers who got me drunk-refused to let me pay and I woke up at 2am in a hotel room in the Carlton-Penta. Not to mention Ben Gurion approach keeping 8 passenger jets in a holding pattern until we got from the border to where we landed at the airport, being escorted by two Israeli F15’s from the border to the airport (they obviously had to circle me and my lead helo-we were a flight of two). It was a fucking bizarre experience without the interrogation. I called my wife long distance when I woke up. We talked for the first time in five months. Turns out the Mossad agent lied. The photo was taken three days before the interrogation. That was the last time she had been to the Jacksonville Mall. But next time I share a playground with Mossad, I’ll send my wife and son to an undisclosed location.
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How are you going to kill them? Let me do it.
As soon as I receive a weapon, attack everyone around me. As violently as I can manage.
If you choose your own life in that situation, you lose.
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Those Israelis are not fooling around… in the late 90’s i went to Russia on a student visa, ran all around the city in the middle of a financial crisis, no Issue… Chased a local girl who lived on a military base… who gave me a tour of her community “the military base”…again no issues… found out later daddy turned out to be a Colonel even met him…again no issues…
I went to Israel right before Covid on a work visa for a one of the big US corps there…to our corporate site… I had to have a citizen employee escort me, had to write down a plan for every place i was going to visit every day before the visa was granted…and he had to account for it… i could run out to get lunch or whatever…but leave town and visit a historical site if it wasn’t in the plan no way…After the trip on the way out we were stuck in a passport line that was taking forever… the guy in front of me had a UK passport and commented to me this was ridiculous wait and i agreed… thats it the entire conversation, Then we both got pulled out of line and interrogated and asked how we “knew each other and what were we talking about”… he was about as British as you can get and literally have “American” dripping off me and im on a visa of literally their most strategic economic partners…
contrasting the 2 was quite an eye opener… ally vs enemy treatment was opposite…
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That was Dave’s question from the interview, not mine.
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I still do not believe Epstein is really dead…
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Love the country but I’m allergic to the Israeli government and I really don’t like Mossad…or AIPAC.
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I have wondered this. However, it seems to me Ghislaine was the one actually running things. I think Epstein’s narcissism caused him too become dangerous to the operation and they took him out. My guess is they offered him an OD of heroine or anesthesia or something in the CPAP because he was “one of ours”, then faked the scene.
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No problem, man. And I owe you a beer.
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l would 100X rather be a car part scammer than a person who made threats against children. (I know it wasn’t you, Phil.) Just saying.
I guess some people give in. when I was young with kids it would be easy to trade integrity for safety. Unfortunately, they will never get it back.
I think many can talk big, until they go to DC, then you are in the “net”, your life and that of your family belongs to them. Dirt? don’t think so. But I agree, they aren’t the same. They are now “owned”. sorry to see that. Goes to Bondi too.
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I remember back then, many photos of “his” body on a gurney. People pointed out the differences. It DOES make sense. Many people have faked death. But at same time, he was a liability. easier to silence him for good, grab evidence and JFK it.
(i.e. start deleting it, hiding, changing it, etc.)
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I too remember one photo in particular. The body on the gurney had a distinctly hooked nose, while Epstein’s was ruler-straight.
I’ve long speculated that Epstein had a dead man’s switch (likely on a secure automated server somewhere) that would trickle out control files at a measured pace should he ever be imprisoned. Throwing Prince Andrew to the wolves would be a good choice for the first in line, as a demonstration that in fact this dead man’s switch did exist: prominent, extremely well-connected, but ultimately of little real consequence. The question of “who’s next?” would be powerful motivation for Island Visitors to come up with some plausible way to spring Epstein from prison and have him go completely free. Bribe a couple of guards, switch off a camera, shuffle Epstein out the back door (vertically) while some convenient random body goes out the front door (horizontally), and it all looks close enough to a suicide that our supine press wouldn’t look too deeply into the matter.
Of course I have no evidence for any of this, it is all merely speculation. However, it does loosely fit the big-picture view of the few known facts. I hasten to add, while leaving plenty of room for other scenarios as well.
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Seriously?!? 
Love the professional language used. It is right up there with Trump’s “really big” musings. 
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AI to the rescue; need a new film of the ‘suicide’… coming right up, your choice of rope colours
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Good points, and didn’t AG Barr visit him just days before?? whose Father (Barr) had Mossad connections?
Yes, a Dead Man Switch would keep a person alive. Worked Julia Assange. (?)
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