Oh, c’mon! That’s too harsh. Certainly we’ve all made our peace with this one?
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Possibly…but I’ve been fighting a raging Twitter battle over the past 24 hours, not because I have any need to prove bots wrong (really, I don’t), but because the Remnant out there need to see that someone is standing firm against PsyOps nonsense.
The intensity of the battle is as high as when someone was trying to turn IVM into horse paste, which we all know was vitally important to them.
So that alone has some information for us here. It’s important enough for someone that they’ve busted out the entire playbook.
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Is there an alternative hypothesis for what was observed in real life? How do we know that a bullet was found in Charlie’s neck and there was no exit wound? Was it from emergency room observations or an autopsy report? And if these are salent and credible findings, what alternative event would have resulted in such an outcome?
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Truthfully we know very little.
- We don’t know which rounds were (allegedly) used.
- We don’t know the condition of the gun, especially its barrel that was allegedly used
- We don’t know the path the bullet took in CK’s body
- We don’t have the autopsy reports, only hearsay from Kolvet and the security guy that “C2- through C6 was destroyed and a bullet was recovered under the skin near T1/scapula”
- Accordingly we don’t have autopsy pictures to confirm that there was only a single entrance wound and no other entrance/exit wounds.
- We have no idea of the weight of the recovered fragments (almost certainly fragments or else we have to consider a very wide range of other possibilities)
- We have no idea if the (supposedly) recovered main bullet fragment can be or has been matched to the putative gun.
But we do know - and Nick will now heartily confirm this - that the chance of a human neck shot in the soft spot stopping any .30-06 round is zero.
I like how “Genghis” put it here:
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You’re in top comic form on this one Chris!
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Just one question. The pork roasts were hanging freely. Charlie’s lower body was somewhat fixed in place when the bullet struck. Would that have made a difference in the behavior of the bullet inside his body? Would that have made it even more likely to have gone straight through?
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And the 911 commission never mentioned tower 7, the third tower that came down in seconds, right in its own foot print and was never “hit by a plane.” Tower 7 was totally ghosted by the 911 Commission.
Oh and NIST NEVER FUCKING TESTED FOR EXPLOSIVES!!! Because there just was not enough evidence of explosives to test for explosives.
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And yet the kid on trial will be found guilty and be determined the only shooter. All actual data, evidence that using a .30-06 round is physically impossible won’t matter because it’ll be a conspiracy theory for at least five years after the trial (and probable execution).
Like all the other blob crimes, it’ll be, “Oh well that’s ancient history. Can’t we just move on? Besides, correcting a false execution never fed a hungry child.”
Then onto the blob’s next sleight of hand.
BTW, how many SQUIRREL!'s have their been since Charlie’s murder anyway? Half a dozen? A dozen?
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Some were hanging “freely” but all were suspended with copper wires and all were securely held. Does this perfectly replicate a human neck attached to a 180# frame? Nope.
But would that have mattered? Also, nope. At least in my judgment.
The rounds blasted through with so little concern for the roasts in front of them that I believe we were not even remotely close to some sort of important boundary effect.
Kind of like we were analyzing a pedestrian accident where a 90-year-old woman was launched 75 feet by some sort of a vehicle, and we were able to match that, more or less, to the defendant’s car, which was a full sized Range Rover.
If the defense tried to offer up a DoorDash scooter of some sort, we’d be able to say, “not a good match for the situation.”
What we’ve demonstrated is so over-the-top that ‘the defense’ can offer up every manner of scooter, Yugo, or skateboard they want, and it won’t matter.
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Want my Chris Farley imitation (probably not?), because the Utah County Attorney has given us JACK SQUAT.
Actually, here’s their case, LIFO order (start on page 2 and work your way up): Utah County Attorney
In a nation full of attorneys, we in theory have rights under the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 14th Amendments (related to trials). Even Tyler has rights and the County Attorney does not want to screw this up…so we get jack.
I’ve said it before and others have hinted as well that this will never see the full light of day and if it does GREAT!
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Thanks for clarifying how little we do know. I will read the case that was posted in response to my query.
Yes theoretically. Not really a difference actually.
WTF is rapiod ? Springfiend ? And the projectiles (bullets) are longer on most 30-06 shells. (guess it needs work). The ACME part is very cool though.
rápido
adjetivo
Que va a gran velocidad o que invierte poco
Diccionario General de la Lengua Española Vox
Copyright © 2012, 2017 Larousse Editorial, S.L., under licence to Oxford University Press. All rights reserved. → gotta provide references
Ohhh okay, good, I didn’t realize they were secured at the bottom. thank you!
That my friend was what you get when you ask AI to create a pic in jest.
All that was needed was “ACME” for those who used to watch the road runner cartoons that were being referenced in replies above mine.
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Easy enough to conclude that Charlie Kirk was not shot by a .30-06 from that distance, so why make it so important to create that as the narrative? Maybe because the murder was to be implemented from a closer vantage by a smaller round of bullet. The perpetrators would want to cover their tracks by getting everyone looking intently in this direction while they escape and cover their tracks.
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100% - A human neck would not stop a .30-06 of any load variation reasonably available (at that distance). Hell, I could only stop it after a roast, through the bone, 1/2 inch plywood and a cement cinder block.
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Nor would a whitetail deer whose neck mass is probably (guessing) 2 to 3x that of a human on a 150 pound animal. Particularily while in rut, which causes the neck to swell on a mature buck.
This one was harvested 2 weeks ago, quartering away from her. Entry just in front of the left shoulder and going nearly the length of the neck, back to front. Exiting a few inches before the head on the right. Completely detaching the neck vertebrae. Exorcist style-complete severing . Not straight across but angling lengthwise. If I had to guess it traversed 18 to 20 inches of tissue and bone and still exited.
30-06 Winchester 150 grain super x at 80 to 90 yards. Jacket fragments and/or bone caused a few tiny exit tears but there was only one large one where the projectile exited, clearly intact. No large blowout, just a bigger hole than the entry and in line with the shot angle, not some oblique angle. What I would expect from a high energy round at relatively close range on mid size game.
You’d think that if anything could cause a deflection in projectile path, this would be a decent candidate? Nope.
I regret not doing a closer post mortum and more pics but the neck was destroyed and wasn’t even fit to feed the dogs.
Obviously not science and not easily repeatable so maybe it adds something to the conversation, or maybe it doesnt? But its in line with what ive observed in the field, hunting deer with high powered rifles for nearly 50 years.
Its still somewhat anecdotal but my experience is that a high energy, high velocity, heavy projectile, doesn’t turn to the path of least resistance, they plow straight through in the general direction of travel. A heavy bone may stop them or shatter them but soft tissue and the bones found in mid sized game like the whitetail, is not going to deflect them or deflect them much.
Hunters that chase heavier animals may see other results. Ive heard of such but Id think that if any animal has similar enough bone and tissue comparisons it’d certainly be a white tail and not a moose or brown bear.
Down-loading the powder to a lower (subsonic) velocity or possibly even some exotic, expanding projectile could theoretically account for different results. I have no experience there but Id have to presume that the alleged suspect in this case wasn’t that sophisticated?
Something seems “hinkey” here but Im not going to speculate further on that until I have more facts. And those may never come.
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