Fake Markets, Real Consequences

Originally published at: https://peakprosperity.com/fake-markets-real-consequences/

This podcast was riveting, and helped snap a number of critical economic and geopolitical elements into focus.

The world may be witnessing the simultaneous breakdown of oil-market price discovery, U.S. dollar hegemony, the traditional Treasury “safe haven,” and the geopolitical order built around American military power. When the dust finally settles on the Iran war China will emerge as a more dominant force in the region as the US’s influence and power wanes.

We explore these themes in this podcast with Philip Pilkington — the macroeconomist and investment pro who’s one of today’s sharpest voices on oil markets, energy geopolitics, and the real forces driving the global economy. Philip is the author of the book The Reformation in Economics and The Collapse of Global Liberalism, and is the co-host of the Multipolarity Podcast which explores geopolitics and macroeconomics.

We live in a world where Trump now openly sells first access to his Tweets to financial insiders, a clearly illegal operation if you or I did such a thing, so it perhaps should come as no surprise that the Trump administration is manipulating oil futures.

Philip Pilkington argues that oil has never been entirely “free” because of OPEC’s influence, but contends that recent events strongly suggest a much more aggressive form of direct intervention through paper markets and potentially coordinated trading.

The disconnect between oil prices and physical supplies is, in a word, extraordinary. Despite the war around the Strait of Hormuz and major disruptions to global energy flows, oil prices have remained remarkably subdued. Meanwhile, product and crude inventories continue to head lower and lower.

Philip argues that if the oil prices were correct, then inventories would be stable. But they are not, which means the price of oil has been set too low relative to supplies.

The real crisis is found in refined products, not the price of crude oil itself. Diesel, heating oil, jet fuel, gasoline, and other products are where shortages can become economically devastating.

The ever-widening crack spreads suggest that refiners and end users may already be experiencing a much tighter physical market than the headline crude price indicates.

Philip contends that the oil price interventions may ultimately be as much about keeping the bond markets calm as holding down the price of oil for short-term political aims.

But artificially subdued prices can conceal physical scarcity for only so long. Once inventories hit critical thresholds, genuine price discovery could return with extraordinary violence.

As the price of oil rises, so too do bond yields because the price of oil is baked into every physical product to some degree, and bonds hate inflation. Oil goes up, product prices go up via cost-push inflation, and bond yields go up.

Philip’s insights into the geopolitical realignments that are underway in Asia are not to be missed. With Taiwan, Japan and South Korea all 100% dependent on hydrocarbon imports, China is well-situated to exert greater influence over all three countries.

Central banks the world over have taken notice and responded by buying gold.

China is suspected to have accumulated far more gold than officially stated, with some estimates putting the nation’s stash at over 30,000 tonnes.

The buying spree began in earnest in 2022 after the U.S. ‘froze’ (i.e. ‘stole’) Russia’s sovereign reserves. Because of this, the old “flight to safety” model for the U.S. dollar appears to be breaking down.

Historically, crises pushed foreign capital into U.S. Treasuries, strengthening both bonds and the dollar.

Philip raises the possibility that a future crisis could produce higher U.S. yields and a weaker dollar simultaneously. In other words, the U.S. might find itself on the receiving end of a dynamic that usually only plagues emerging market countries.

So, keep your eyes peeled for the combination of rising US Treasury rates and a declining dollar.

We also discussed the AI bubble and how ugly that will be when it bursts. It’s pretty much the only thing holding the US economy out of recession at the moment.

Finally, we are facing a polycrisis. Energy shortages feed into transportation, fertilizer, food production, inflation, interest rates, currencies, financial markets, and geopolitics. A disruption that begins with oil can therefore cascade through virtually every major economic system. On top of this, we have to add missing sulfur, helium, aluminum, and a host of petrochemical feedstocks.

Tune in to hear it all.


Timestamps

00:33 The Oil Market Makes No Sense
02:35 Has the Oil Market Been Manipulated?
04:49 Russia, Sanctions and the Oil Rerouting Game
07:15 How Paper Markets Can Be Manipulated
09:14 The Dangerous Logic of Suppressing Oil Prices
10:30 Wash Trades and the Mystery Oil Whale
12:37 Oil Inventories Are Sending a Warning
14:30 The Theory Behind the Oil Price Suppression
16:44 The Real Oil Price May Be Far Higher
19:07 The China Deal and the 60-Day Countdown
21:06 Is the SPR Being Pushed Toward Its Limits?
22:00 Why China Slashed Its Oil Imports
23:01 China, Gold and the Price-Control Theory
24:49 The Refinery Mystery and Missing Data
27:05 An Oil Shock Could Become a Food Crisis
30:13 Nine Meals From Revolution
31:01 The Coming Diesel and Energy Crisis
32:29 Oil Prices, Inflation and Bond Yields
34:33 Is the Treasury Secretly Controlling the Curve?
36:55 Where Are the Bond Vigilantes?
39:10 The AI Bubble and Market Fragmentation
41:15 Why an AI Crash Could Trigger a Dollar Crisis
42:10 The Circular Financing Behind the AI Boom
44:01 When Rising Yields Stop Supporting the Dollar
46:50 The End of the Dollar Flight to Safety
48:43 Why Gold Broke Its Old Relationship With Rates
51:20 Gold Becomes the New Numeraire
52:32 China, Gold and the BRICS Challenge
53:00 China’s Real Strategy for Iran and Taiwan
55:21 The Strait of Hormuz and China’s Endgame
58:18 How China Could Win Taiwan Without Invading
59:22 China Holds the Energy Cards in Asia
61:00 Has America Lost Its Ability to Project Power?
64:08 Why Europe Is More Vulnerable Than America
66:40 The West’s Coming Living-Standards Crisis
67:59 China Plans While the West Grifts
69:50 The Two-Tier American Economy
70:38 How Inflation Could Crush Living Standards
73:57 What a 50% Living-Standards Decline Looks Like
74:22 The Energy Consumption Reality Check
75:39 Energy Lockdowns Are Coming
77:36 Why Energy Rationing Could Break the Economy
78:39 The COVID Lockdown as a Template
80:31 The Pain of an Energy Lockdown
81:08 Would Energy Lockdowns Be Worse Than COVID?
81:53 Preparing for the Coming Crisis
84:01 Is the West Being Deliberately Reshaped?
85:15 The Rise of a Multipolar World
86:00 Final Thoughts and Multipolarity
86:10 The Grand Theory of Everything


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Really interesting discussion!

The worst part is that now i have another podcast to listen to…

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Excellent discussion.

I hope you have him back.

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Yes, a great talk. The Big TOE becomes more clear.

At one point you mentioned the shenanigans around Mag7/AI finance. No1 has a good synopsis of the trickery and mischief.

https://no01.substack.com/p/weekend-at-alphabets

I love Philip’s perspective and insights! However, I suggest he not so cavalierly dismiss the possibility of nuclear war. We are in WWIII already and to my way of thinking it will lead inexorably to nuclear weapons being used. There would be many ways to derail that outcome, but that IS where we’re headed barring some force acting on our trajectory sufficiently. I assess the odds of a change of course being less than 50%. We can’t afford to dismiss nuclear war because it is so unpleasant to consider.

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Listening to it has been a great way to spend a Sunday. I very much enjoy being a fly on the wall listening to really intelligent/knowledgeable people talk.

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Ditto on Phillip’s insights. I think you and I agree that we are already in WW III. Just like WW I, it was not easy to see when it started. And, just like an economic recession, we won’t know until we are told… years later.
As for nuclear war, we need to think of what it would mean to country leader who used nuclear weapons. That would be the end of any ambitions to “rule the world” or any lesser ambition. The world would literally be gone.

Oh, my, I know the feeling.

I also loved “Oil traders are the biggest conspiracy theorists because they live it every day.”

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They weren’t fooling around when they terrorized the US on 9/11 and murdered 3,000 people in horrible ways.

They weren’t fooling around when they commit global genocide with the multiple Covid bioweapons.

They’re not fooling around now.

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Great discussion, thanks for introducing us to another great source of information. (Although I’m not exactly happy about having my worst expectations confirmed. Adding learning Mandarin to my prep list of things to do.)

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At min 29 I wasn’t sure what he meant about fixed-rate mortgages being “magic” and not lasting through the crisis - could someone please clarify that point?

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Good question listening at 1.5x i wondered what did he just say/mean

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We are super lucky to have per-installed all these Flock cameras so we can easily implement the lock-down even/odd license plate for gas and mobility rights.

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Glad to know I wasn’t the only one that wondered about that!

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Not heard of this guy before, but I like him.

I like the point he made about GDP reductions not being the same round the world due to different society structures. It’s along the lines of what I posted here:

https://tribe.peakprosperity.com/t/weak-payrolls-record-disability-booming-health-services-and-a-potential-metals-low/47924/19

I also reckon that a lot of western people’s energy use could fall quite easily without actually hurting that much.

Just even if I compared my (completely fine) lifestyle with many others, I use way way less energy. Some people are always driving huge distances for very little and heating their houses so they can walk round in shorts in winter. And that’s before we go to the US, where KwH use per house is way way higher as you blow HVAC (hot or cold) into (what are basically) big wooden garden sheds in the desert in order to maintain the heat within 1 degree of your preferred temp.

He made a good point though re some US GDP/energy use being higher to basically get the same outcome as a European. Just for example, commutes are not as long=less energy use for same outcome. Same with house heating - it takes less energy here as we have bricks and insulation.

Of course, it won’t be as simple as ‘just’ cutting out the bloat. It won’t work like that at all and there will be chaos and bad allocations and all manner of knock on effects. And, whatever happens, the debt and inflation and currencies blow up etc etc

Separately:

You can bet that the banks will have (or will get) a protection mechanism in case interest rates go to the moon and/or the currency massively devalues. They ain’t having you little people repay them with a loaf of bread! This happened after Weimar - debts were revalued in the new currency.

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Thank you! That makes sense.

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someone asked on a previous thread and I have waited to hear @cmartenson reply. Could be that I missed the reply :slight_smile:
On the issue of energy use falling back to 2002 (?) GDP Level or something like that. What if u backed out all the increased gov’t waste that we woukd not miss?

:joy:

https://x.com/Nostre_damus/status/2083932700227129845?s=20

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The problem with that is the relative energy use of industry vs homeowners. Whilst the average homeowner can cut their use by driving less and turning the HVAC down, industry is a much bigger user of energy, and cant just cut ‘luxury’ consumption - it has already done that under routine commercial pressures.

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