Finance U with Adam Rozencwajg: Platinum, Gold, Silver, Oil and Natural Gas, Oh My!

Originally published at: https://peakprosperity.com/finance-u-with-adam-rozencwagj-platinum-gold-silver-oil-and-natural-gas-oh-my/

Once a quarter, I get to sit down with Adam Rozencwajg of Geohring and Rozencwajg, the natural resources investment firm, and record a podcast.

This quarter, I asked Adam about their remarkably prescient bullish call on platinum (and palladium), which came out with remarkably good timing a few weeks before a 53% rise.

Adam politely demurred on getting the timing right, saying that’s a matter of luck. But what was a matter of fundamentals and sound analysis was the profound disconnect between physical platinum supplies and demand.

[Link to G&R’s “The Hidden Revival Of Platinum and Palladium” Report]

Naturally, I had to follow up on our prior conversation which focused on the G&R neural net model of shale oil production which had been predicting a 2025 peak that has now been confirmed by the EIA itself.

How are so few focusing on this profound reality?

Similarly, everybody and their uncle knows that AI data center demand is gobbling up electricity, and the US is going to have to install a LOT more electrical generation capability, and soon. The only “shelf-ready” solution is going to be natural gas.

There, too, we wondered if anybody besides us was at all concerned about the supply side of the NG story. Somehow, by 2030, ~30% more NG needs to come out of the ground than does today.

How is that going to happen? We have questions…

Most of that demand is being driven by NG exports, which Adam had an incredible story of a company that tossed aside its visionary founder because – gasp! – he believed in such strange things as owning the upstream NG asset producing the gas that was being put through his company’s LNG plants for export.

It’s a tale of bean-counting over common sense; a tale as old as money itself.

One surprising nugget hidden in the G&R 2Q25 report was the discovery – once they ran numbers – that hybrid cars were by far the most efficient at carrying occupants. Far more efficient than either ICE vehicles or EV cars.

That nugget alone is worth the price of admission.

We also discussed G&R’s fund (GRHAX), which has achieved a 22% year-to-date return as of June 30, 2025, with investments in uranium, U.S. natural gas, crude oil, gold miners, copper, agriculture, and coal. Uranium is favored for exposure to the nuclear cycle, while small modular reactor (SMR) investments are approached cautiously due to high valuations.

In other words, if you want exposure to a well-curated list of stock and resource investments within the natural resources space, this is a good fund to check out.

Finally, we also discussed silver in the context of Samsung’s silver battery announcement (which could consume a huge proportion of silver) as well as the explosion in silver demand driven by TOPcon solar panels.

As always, Adam was a wealth of knowledge and insights, and a steady voice during turbulent times.

Enjoy!


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Could it be that blasting to space instead of yachting is more an indicator of increasing wealth disparity than it is of cheap energy?

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Nate Hagens said our economies prioritize luxury goods. Which is perverse. So we can have surplus of luxury yachts being produced while eg education for masses is low quality or nonexistent. Space is just another frontier (Sic) when everyone(in rich class) has 1Bn$ yacht in port. So Id say you are :100: correct.

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I could have guessed hybrids as such, common sense. If they work flawlessly*. City drive in lights (EV superior). Highway(ICE superior). Bonus: lighter vehicles as smaller batteries are fine in hybrid. Extra bonus: wear and tear on roads is less, meaning less tax burden in future especially with EVs gaining ground slowly(+ safety… heavier cars cause more damage when accidents happen).

However EU is rumoured to plan hybrid ban. 15minute cities is on zombie mode.

*: this is often used as excuse, possibly by opposing market competitor. And people used to eg ICE cars. However we see economy of scale: the more people buy and use hybrids, the more skilled technicians we have, the more vendors will have knowledge/data to fix issues. Luxury sportscars are opposite example: absurd number of basic flaws simply from custom design and small production and usage numbers.

We loved our hybrid lease car. Kinda hated to give it up. Unfortunately it was not a comfortable vehicle to travel long distances in, but I blame seat engineers for that mess. Around town, battery. Get on the hwy, after getting up to speed, would manually switch to ICE. This left the remaining battery for when we got off the hwy. This IMHO was a flaw in the calibration decisions. If I didn’t do that, it would deplete the battery first before starting ICE back up.

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Re: hybrids:
I suspect many (especially Toyotas) have higher reliability overall than comparable ICEs.

A manager here drove a Prius for 14 years. Aside from scheduled maintenance, she only had to replace the front headlights.

YMMV but I’m hearing similar stories.

So another bonus if you’re looking at overall cost of ownership per mile.

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Our plug in hybrid Chevy Volt has been mechanically almost flawless with only one non-maintenance issue since 2017. Adam says the plug ins aren’t as efficient as the original hybrids because when braking or slowing it captures that energy instead of wasting it as heat. The Volt also has a regenerative brake but it’s manual (the driver has to press a paddle on the steering wheel to engage it). We use it for all non-emergency braking so we’re capturing a lot of that energy that would otherwise be wasted as heat. As a result we’re still on our original brake pads after 65,000 miles.

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My daughters Hybrid Hyundai Tuscon is quite a nice vehichle. It has a 1.6 L turbo as it’s gasoline component and when the electric is added it has quite a bit of torque, and moves nicely. I have a Hyundai truck with ICE on the same platform that gets 35 on the interstate, I think the hybrid gets about 8 more, it also does better around town as much of the stop and start is electric.

The hybrid has been reliable for two years so far.

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Richard Muller took a deep dive into the fundamentals and numbers behind hybrids and EV’s in his 2012 book “Energy for Future Presidents.” Unsurprisingly, his conclusion is that hybrids pencil out but full-on EV’s don’t, even when you factor in likely improvements in battery technology.

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This Podcast takes me back to 2015, I recall our Host Chris bringing to our attention that one major oil company whose name escapes me was ceasing exploration (E&P) and as to why this wasn’t front page news.

Be interesting to know how (E&P) is playing out now with other companies.

This newspaper report is from Jan, 2021; BP now has fewer than 100 geologists as oil and gas giant turns away from exploration

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I think so, but probably the idea he meant to convey is the relative cheapness of energy.

The graph for tight oil with drawn in massive and steep down slope represents, I think, temporarily mile high oil prices followed by a rather sudden collapse or series of stair step collapses in production, resulting in corresponding collapses of modern life.

If what I describe is true, energy will lose any residual cheapness followed by becoming increasingly unavailable.

We are told that God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the mighty, and base things of the world and things which are despised, and things that are not, to bring to nothing, things that are, that no flesh should glory in his presence.

I am fascinated to see things shape up for the humble conditions of the lowly masses be the deciding factor for future energy production.

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Don’t look now…but where exactly is this energy going to come from?

And by “more than 10%” what they mean is their chart projects 11.8%. Eating up another 6.8% of electricity demand is a huge number.

As a reminder, the US has only managed to increase its electricity production by 5% since 2010:

The US will have to increase electricity production in 5 years by 136% as compared to the prior 15 years, so it had better get busy!

If not, expect a LOT more of this:

In the “People vs AI machinery,” who do you think will be prioritized? I’m as close to certain as I can be that the answer is “not the people.”

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The social media companies and internet providers will tightened up on “free”. I think that a change we might see is a more subscription based internet and AI access, and at the same time less shotgun blasted advertising. Additionally storage of email, files, and pictures will all be via paywall services.

Smart meters and high prices will cause people to use far less electricity. Sweaters and slippers will be in style again.

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According to Rystad, best case, global oil supplies barely meet the low oil demand scenario.

Let’s hope the discovery curve surprises to the upside, not the downside.

The global fun begins around 2032 on their chart.*

*Local mileage will vary.

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Mish seems to say people are losing interest in oil, or something like that.

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It is not just a matter of adding production capacity. The network is totally insufficient to carry such increases in power.

Here in the Netherlands there was a report today about the network congestion in Brainport Eindhoven. This is the high-tech area with lots of Philips spin-off companies of which ASML is the biggest by far.

There is a massive waiting list of companies for extra power. And no capacity is available until at least 2033. So guess what these companies do… indeed they move to other countries where power is available. Total shitshow and it is only getting worse.

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That “Ouch!”, turned my plug-in Toyota Prius Prime from a great choice (huge subsidies in 2018 made it about the cheapest car to buy + it cost about < 1/2 as much to run on electric as on gas) to a wash (gas cost only slightly higher than electric). The battery is still just as efficient although the capacity has dropped by about 25% after 125,000 miles. Of course, I saved a lot in the purchase and over the first 75K miles or so with still-cheap electricity.

The car initially averaged about 65-70 mpg on gas (compared to 55 for my 2007 Prius hybrid). Not it averages around 60 while the 2007 car averages just under 50 with 208,000 miles on it. The 2007 car is done for and needs to be junked or sold as is.

Both have been great in the maintenance department with the 2007 needing perhaps $2K in unscheduled maintenance in it’s first 180000 miles and perhaps another thousand or two lately. The 2018 is still at zero (as was the 2007 at that mileage). And yes, the brakes last 1.5-2x as long if you drive gently in both hybrids and plug in hybrids. Gentle driving maximized the proportion of regenerative braking.

My next car will be a plain old hybrid.

All of this is relative to my actual costs. I understand that the all-in and energy efficiency calculations favor a hydrid in the absence of those crazy subsidies the Feds and New York State gave me in 2018.

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I presume that number is relative to the new electricity demand. Let’s assume that the 7% increase from AI is added to perhaps another (probably conservative) 5% from "electrification of heating and transportation. So AI will use 11.8% of a new electricity demand that is 112% of current demand 11.8% x 1.12 = 13.2% of current demand, meaning AI demand will increase by a factor of 13.2/5 = 2.64.

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I’m watching this unfold carefully. When we built our retirement home in 2019 we decided to hook up to the grid. It has been very reliable and much more economical than getting batteries and going off grid. However, if these electricity shortages start unfolding and causing disruptions in my service here in NH, our Plan B has always been to go off grid. We even expanded our system in 2022 when the first two winters here showed us there would be stretches of snow and cloud cover that would leave our hypothetical batteries drained waiting for more sun. So far, grid tied is best, but I can see the storm clouds forming. As long as the deterioration is gradual I’ll be fine. The only thing that will bite me is a sudden collapse of the whole system. Unlikely (but possible).

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@thc0655 what about a gas generator?