It started when Germany built a railroad to Rumania to purchase Rumanian Oil, to which the British Empire took exception.
Having had their true origins obscured by Abrahamic Monotheists the British started a Saxon war, little understanding the Brutality that that would inevitably cause.
From our Oera Linda.
Where Lyda's children could bend a tree and kill a lion, Finda's children could not bend a tree. But where Lyda killed one lion, Finda killed ten.This is Finda's war.
Using “if you know the outcome, you’ll see the journey” as your rule of thumb is a great way to see the evidence you want and to ignore the evidence you don’t. “If you can see the path their journey is taking, you can tell where they’re trying to go” is a far better heuristic.
What an interesting interview. I personally got the impression he was based in fear and he kept focusing on what the psychopaths are doing without taking a moment to understand resources or solutions. In fact, I had to laugh when Chris brought up solutions and he replied that solutions are useless but then gives a solution by telling people to not consent. Yes, I absolutely agree that these “managers” want power, are evil, are soulless psychopaths that will do whatever it takes to get power. I agree we should all at the individual level walk away and continue building our own alternative present and future. I do not agree that “their plan” has been passed down since God knows when. It’s evil people doing evil things in every generation and these are not demigods. I also believe that just as there are limits to growth, that also applies to limits on how evil someone or a group of people can be. Maybe they are not dealt with in a timeframe we would like, but there are limits for everything under the sun.
Alot of what Icke does is to take a series of events and actions, then connects the dots to form a picture. His picture might be absolutely correct, I dont know. But I’ve learned to be careful with that sort of logic. Two people can look at the exact same series of dots and see two completely different pictures. Things like this end up reflecting more about the observer’s mind than the actual object of observation. You’ve seen pictures like this;
Which is the real image? Only in the case of the subject at hand, there are many more images [ infinite? ] that can be gleaned from looking at the same set of marks.
We see small business hurt, mandates, surveillance, illness, fear, shifting narratives, etc.
One person sees a pandemic, flawed but well intentioned attempts to combat it, unfortunate fallout, etc
Another person sees a bioweapon released by an enemy during a trade war and an attempt to bring us in line with a rising communist regime
Still another person sees the machinations of a death cult, a satanist cabal that goes back to the time of Christ.
…and many many more. The pictures gleaned from the image may be literally different for every single individual on earth. I think thats true for all reality to a certain extent. We all live in a different reality as we simply all perceive everything a little bit different [ maybe alot different ].
Which is the truth? I’ll be the honest one and say that I dont really know. Maybe on some level we get to choose which reality to live in and that reality becomes true for us…and that choice is a reflection of ourselves? The Hermetics say “as above, so below. As within, so without” [ or some such ].
Maybe if you look at the page of dots and see a death cult, lizard people, and evil conspirators then that BECOMES your reality. Thats your karma. And it is a direct reflection of your inner being. For better or worse thats what you live with.
If you look at the set of dots and see well intentioned but flawed responses to a legitimate pandemic, then that is your reality. Your karma. For better or worse. Etc, etc.
Maybe all the problems we perceive are problems within ourselves and the answers lie within…IDK. Enough pondering, Ive got wood to cut.
The greater the fear the greater the deer in the headlight’s stare.
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/freedom_from_fear_stop_playing_the_governments_mind_games
Exactly. Starting with the end in mind is not scientific.
This is why UFOlogy, a study over 70 years old, has gotten absolutely nowhere. At every twist and turn, anything that sat outside of the extraterrestrial paradigm was excluded by lies of omission. The USAF Catoe bibliography includes a caveat at the beginning about the abundance of occult material associated with the subject, because “alien” doesn’t mean what you think it means. Science demands objectivity and esteems for falsifiability.
There’s an account of a CE in S. America with two stranded motorists. One guy experienced a UFO ride with aliens and the other guy with him experienced a tour bus of strangers. Same experience. And dichotomies of this sort are ubiquitous in the literature. The sex stuff can’t be ignored, either. It’s frequently left out of the Betty & Barney Hill story, on purpose.
Icke’s failed predictions don’t surprise me, either. Apparently nobody here is familiar with John Keel of the Mothman Prophecies and Operation Trojan Horse? Tricksters have a habit of misinforming. A little bit of the details, truth and lies wicked together. It’s funny. As Whitley Streiber wrote about being sodomized by aliens, he even mused that he could be being used as a mouthpiece to disseminate the myth for these things.
We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which disguises itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion so as not to alarm us. - Terrence McKenna
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl SaganAnd when you get it, just shove it to the back of the drawer in favor of the official narrative.
Tone shaming women is an American past time and I will speak up when I see it. You think Maria is a man posting as a woman… How would this revelation change Her/His message? I’m missing your point
The attached link details CDC plan to relocate individuals at “high risk” for COVID-19 to green zones. They call it a “shielding approach”.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/global-covid-19/Interim-Operational-Considerations-Implementing-Shielding-in-Humanitarian-Settings.pdf
The concept was called ID2020
Sponsors: Microsoft - GAVI (Gayes vaccine alliance) - Accenture
https://id2020.org/
Amazing posts! Great line of thought of DaveF. This triggered me to write down my private thoughts, I did not want to get involved in the “shooting the messenger” debate that is ongoing here.
I wondered about the speed with which the Taliban were able to conquer Afganistan. Conquering a country the likes of Afganistan would be a logistical nightmare, unless this is well prepared. Secret weapon and fuel depots throughout the country, sleeper warriors placed throughout the land. Police and military bribed as much as possible. All well positioned in advance, and once the conquering starts, you basically have the recipe of a “Super Blitz Krieg”. Blitzy enough to have a superpower flee in panic.
If the Taliban has both the patience, insight, and organizational skills to achieve this, for sure a small group of highly intelligent but ruthless psychopaths, with virtually an infinite amount of money, will also be able to plan and organize this.
I’ve listened to interviews and read Books from David Icke, and articles about David Icke; I take a lot he is saying with a grain of salt, I always interpreted some of his thoughts as resulting from his realization that “reality” as we perceive it, is very different from the actual reality. Once you understand that, everything is suddenly possible. And because there are not many people of his intelligence allowing this type of free thinking, there was only pushback from “the blind”. People here complaining about the obvious lies and stupidity of pro-vaxxers, politicians, journalists, and “scientists ”, kind of are in the same position that David Icke was for decennia. If you go over the many posts on PP, you will find the exact same “weird” lines of thoughts, because these people realize that actually everything is suddenly possible. This is, imo, just a temporary phase, a recalibration of our senses, thoughts, and departure of our old dogma’s. As mentioned before, David Icke had to go through this process all by himself. We have hundreds, maybe thousands of people walking that exact same path together.
So, I long time ago forgave him his boundless foolishness because hidden in his thoughts, are, imo, some real mind provoking gems. And, underlying to all of this, is the realization that we have believed in fairytales our whole life.
To cut a long story short: don’t shoot the messenger, let’s focus on the message. And let not forget that we have witnessed this exact same scenario enfold before our own eyes this year in Afganistan. Sometimes “the Universe” gives us pointers that we might want to pay attention to…
edit: note to self, do not type on a smartphone
I did not know who David was prior to this interview, and after reading numerous derogatory comments on this thread, I chose not to investigate before listening. He sounded sane and rational to me and I agree with much of what he said. I assumed he was referring to oligarch families going back many generations, but instead he is referring to alien Lizards? I watched a clip of him on a talk show from the 90’s where the host kept trying to make him say he was the Son of God, yet he kept reiterating that we are all a piece of the divine spirit. It was spun as I’m sure it remains today.
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I had dismissed him as a wacko, with his views on ´Reptilians’ etc., but his well thought out, reasoned arguments impressed me. An interesting interview with a very perceptive man.
Wouldn’t you feel better if you got rid of that chip on your shoulder?
“Just when I thought I was out…they pulled…me…back…in!”
Another thought: “projection” 
It’s crazy that people think the orange man is thier savior and wasn’t compromised like the rest. You don’t get on TV unless they want you on TV.
I believe he was there to create more of a division of people. Do you not remember Biden and kamala saying if Trump is pushing the Vax then I’m not taking it. Well look at them now. There was always going to be 2 sides.
As far as lizard people, yes it sounds crazy but if you look at how far removed from what we were even just 30 years ago. And what we can do with genetics now. To think the earth has been spinning for a few million Years and this is the pinical of society. I don’t buy it.
I thought this article was really insightful. On the one hand, this crisis was totally predictable. OTOH, shit’s about to get real if/when the NE has their winter surge.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/a-bureaucracy-seeking-to-protect
Chris… Thanks for daring to have Icke on as a guest. He is incredibly accurate in many of his observations, but his courage in speaking truth to power has made him an easy target for the mainstream media and the nattering class of sheeple that try to stifle all debate. This was one of the best interviews I have seen with David in my nearly 30 years of following him… Thanks for doing this. Well done.
Amen!