Thanks YT75. I had never heard of Rimbaud. Seers used to be well paid by the Ancients.The ability to dip in and out of insanity is undervalued. It has been argued that this is the essence of humanity. Creativity has it's price.
The nermals owe us big-time.
Conscripts of good will, ours will be a ferocious philosophy; ignorant as to science, rabid for comfort; and let the rest of the world croak.
[quote=Arthur Robey]I had never heard of Rimbaud.
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Hi Arthur,
Bob Dylan introduced me to Rimbaud in "You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome
When You Go.
http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/youre-gonna-make-me-lonesome-when-you-go
[quote=Nate][quote=Arthur Robey]
I had never heard of Rimbaud.
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Hi Arthur,
Bob Dylan introduced me to Rimbaud in "You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome
When You Go.
http://www.bobdylan.co m/us/songs/youre-gonna-make-me-lonesome-when-you-go
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Ha, I immediately put Blood on the Tracks on and was about to comment on same. My favorite Dylan album.
Doug
Kurzweil, and "The Singularity is Near" is hardly a book that could claim the Author as irrelevant in my opinion. I found it extremely fascinating but it hurt my head so I set it aside about halfway through. It scared the hell out of me about four years ago while reading it as my wiring was mostly sports related, and my life was taking me into a totally different direction (I caught the OIL bug) that required of me many hours of self teaching. I enjoyed it but labored over it at the same time. I have decided I would re-read and finish this book while spending a month at Yellowstone as I will want the awesome visuals to go along with a very thought provoking book. I know I will need my Lady there with me too so that if I get scared again I'll have a hand to hold.
Respectfully Given
BOB
Rimbaud is indeed really something, and also with respect to technology, people like Heidegger for instance where refering to him quite a bit in this context, like the poem "movment".For me there are three persons from around the same time and with very different works but somehow expressing the same thing, Rimbaud, Nietzsche and Lewis Caroll (but you could say the thing is the same throughout "core litterature" or poetry as well, but having managed to bring it back forward somehow), and with Mallarmé added.
As to singularity, clearly "classical charlatanism" for me, with the added ultra-utilitarianist aspect, also very interesting that Kurzweill has spent a lot of time on characters(letters) recognition
And thanks for the link looks interesting, need to have a look
I think I listened to it for about the 5th time this morning, and it just doesn't get dull. In fact, it gets even better with every listen. I think it will be a permanent fixture on my little mp3 player that gets me through my 3-hour R/T commute for my job in NYC.
I've been a big fan of Greer's wrting for a few years now. I just finished reading "The Wealth of Nature" and found it to be profoundly insightful, a great expansion of "Small is Beautiful" by E.F. Schmacher (the book Greer riffs on in the subtitle and throughout the text). As someone trained in historical inquiry, I especially appreciate the way that Greer brings a "long arc of history" perspective to the matters he studies. I think that this as much as anything helps him to take a non-ideological approach in his writing, which helps to explain how he's just so damned consistent throughout his body of work.
One of my favorite parts of the interview was toward the end, when Chris mentioned how he'd run away from his old life as fast as he could if he were dropped back into it today, and Greer expanded on that idea a little further as proof of how unbearably BORING the typical suburban life is. I was thinking about this over Thanksgiving at my in-laws, when the after-dinner discussion turned (as it often does) to the television shows they all watch. I'm not kidding – this is a central topic of conversation every time I get together with my in-laws. Since I don't watch TV all that much (and probably would have gotten rid of it a while ago if not for my wife) I don't ever have much to say in these conversations. What really struck me hard this time was how true Greer's description is. I am much, much happier building stuff around my homestead or working in the garden or just exploring the adjacent woodlot with my 5 year old daugher than I ever am mindlessly watching a TV show. Once you take that red pill and decide to wake up instead of remaining asleep, it's impossible to go back.
Thanks for a great podcast, Chris! I'm already looking forward to when you have him back on the show in the future. I also love the Extraenvironmentalists' semi-regular segments with JMG in their podcast.
I too have enjoyed listening to Mr. Greer multiple times. Please do another interview with him in the future, better yet how about a regular (weekly, monthly, quarterly) check-in with the Grand Master.
AkGrannyWGrit
I listened to this interview again. It is really wonderful and resonates with my view of the world. Those that have mentioned Kurzweil's singularity… doesn't his theory imply a limitless curve? Doesn't that fly in the face of our limits? I find Kurzweil incredibly intellegent, but intellegence doesn't necessarily equal wisdom. In interviews I've heard with him, he describes death as a complete failure and as a separation from all the things that are meaningful. I guess it depends on what you believe. Einstein, who was considered a genius in science, was not necessarily considered to be a genius in sociology. He has some wonderful quotes on the subject of humanity, but he didn't write with much rigor on the subject. Take Chris Langan as another example, watch some of his interviews and ask yourself if this man (supposedly the highest IQ in the U.S.) strikes you as wise? Some of the wisest people I know do not possess incredibly high IQs.
Technological progress really is one of the main narratives our country lives by. Another book I would recommend is Jacque Ellul's "Technological Society" written in 1954. It is a follow up to books such as Spengler's "Decline of The West," Heidegger's "The Question Concerning Technology," as well as other books on the subject. So much of the book rings true today. Here is a video interview of him before he passed away:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdogID589Mk
Thank you
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