Retreat is an excellent tactic, but a poor strategy.
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Can you explain the difference, Lamarth, between tactic and strategy?
No. There is a difference between slavery and the system we have now: Slaves are valuable property, and you wouldnât let one freeze to death in their car or on the sidewalk.
Stefan Molyneaux made a good point that one of the great leaps forward in the science of human farming was the realisation that by allowing people to choose their own occupation you could improve their productivity, thus increasing the total amount of profit per human that can be collected by the farmer(s).
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Ahoy Chris. I donât know if you considered this, but if I recall, the âmarginal productivityâ of a slave was of the order of 20%, because whilst the slave owner took 100% of the slavesâ productivity, he then spent 80% to house, clothe and feed them.
By this metric, any income tax at a greater than 20% is worse than slavery, and thats before all the other taxes are applied to what remains.
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Tactics win battles, strategy wins wars. Itâs a question of scale and scope of vision.
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Can you apply the definitions to the phrase âGo where you are treated bestâ, please, Lamarth?
A reader of Clauswitz and Sun Tsu 
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Taxation Without Representation
If you go where you are treated best, this works out well for your personal success. However, by being passive in a world that is acting against you, ideally to enslave you, the structures that would treat you poorly are allowed to thrive. They are entirely free to apply this:
However, I was talking more generally about retreat. Thereâs a lot of white flight in the face of waves of migration. Maybe youâll even get to live your life in peace. But the migration will come for your children. The Bantu overran Rhodesia, then South Africa, and now they and others are overrunning the UK. While you can argue they were there earlier in Rhodesia, that doesnât apply to South Africa, where the Bantu were the third of the four warring ethnicities.
Or alternatively, Islam overran Egypt and Lebanon - we have plenty of Christians from those countries over here. Now itâs overrunning Europe and parts of the US and Aus. You can retreat to Idaho or Uruguay, and it may be tactically efficient, but as a strategy it ends in extermination.
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What about the idea that you vote with your feet?
Ä°f enough people leave the legacy countries, those countries will be less likely to be capable of imposing their authority anywhere?
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Here in sunny New Zealand, we have a population of apx 5 million people.
Kiwis pay over $3b each year in fuel tax, yet only $500m gets spent on the roads. Where does the remaining $2.5b go? No-one knows.
Our income tax rate over here starts at 17%, and goes up from there.
My missus was paying 59% income tax on her second job.
In the 15 years Iâve lived here the minimum wage has nearly doubled, and so has the price of everything.
I think weâre pretty close to slavery already, when a double income home barely makes ends meet.
Taxation is theft.
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Speaking of pharaoh and slave (Genesis 47):
20 So Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh, for all the Egyptians sold their fields, because the famine was severe on them. The land became Pharaohâs. 21 As for the people, he made servants of them from one end of Egypt to the other. 22 Only the land of the priests he did not buy, for the priests had a fixed allowance from Pharaoh and lived on the allowance that Pharaoh gave them; therefore they did not sell their land.
23 Then Joseph said to the people, âBehold, I have this day bought you and your land for Pharaoh. Now here is seed for you, and you shall sow the land. 24 And at the harvests you shall give a fifth to Pharaoh, and four fifths shall be your own, as seed for the field and as food for yourselves and your households, and as food for your little ones.â
20% tax rate for the pharaohâs âslavesâ.
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Or what about if the best treatment happens to be medical treatment not offered in your own country that may save your life?
Wouldnât it make sense to go there where you are treated better?
Best treatment in another country is not only financial/economic.
Sometimes you need to trade off one better treatment for another that happens to be a priority.
Ä° just think itâs best to be flexible and ready to go if necessary
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Though this video is a bit older, yet still relevant today. It is focused on the US, it is applicable to most if not all countries today. There are some new details that over the years emerged, which are not in this video such as the use of the word person or even when it comes to your name. Thereâs more to the story than this. As well, when they emntion Bush and the queen of England, replace those names with the current people in those roles. The video gives a good idea of how our world is put together. Worth watching in full.
Around the 18 minute mark they start to talk about the tax and basically the slave system. Though it is not mentioned here, the abolishment of slavery back in the day is a sham. They just changed it and basically created a system where everybody not in the know is a slave. I am considering creating a thread to post videos like these, which uncover the systems in place right now. Mind boggling yet very recognizable.
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When you look at all the taxes we pay, there is not much left of what we call our salaries. They higher your salary, the bigger percentage they take. Say you are at the highest, almost half is taken away. Then you have sales tax, tax on your home, tax on your car, in certain places tax if you have a pet, tax on your electricity and other bills and so on. When you do the math of what is said you earn without any deductions and then count how much goes to deductions and taxes, you will see what you actually get to take home with you and spend it on things for yourself and your family. Ballpark number, you probably are left with about 20% of your salaray that goes to the actual goods (food, gas, books, cars, tools, utensils and so on) and entertainment. We are slaves under the illusion that we are free, because we earn an income and can decide for ourselves what we want to spend it on. Only what we spend it on is what we rent from our owners, thinking we actually own something. Thus the money flows back to them. Instead of providing for us, they give is money to give us the illusion that we are free and provide for ourselves. True freedom is something else.
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I would say the difference between New and Old world slavery is the lack of brutal physical punishment.
Today we still work a set amount of hours, usually 8 hours a day. Take away time for commute, one may have 2 to 4 hours for personal responsibilities (cooking, cleaning, errands etc) and leisure (if you are fortunate) and then it is off to bed to rest for the next day. Rinse and repeat.
You have a max amount of time off you are allowed to take for emergencies and what we call vacation. Especially in the US you will have to deal with unpaid leave and more, creating strain elsewhere, forcing you to work even harder later on to compensate. On top of that, most of the time you can take time off only when your boss gives you permission to do so, which may not be at the time you would like or need to take it.
Nowadays, instead of being whipped, chained, body parts being cut off etc, we are now invisibly whipped by our managers eyes peering over our shoulders to see whether or not we are doing our jobs, leading to disceplenary actions, cut in paycheck, little to no salary adjustment etc, all which cause the same mental stress as the harsher physical punishment causes. The brain does not know the difference. We are chained to our work stations/ computers. We are so sick we can barely function, well enough to do the work and sick enough to be unable to revolt. We now voluntarely let people cut and do harm to us, we call that surgery. The three things to apeace a slave is granted to us in abundance: sex, drugs and entertainment. Too exhausted, drugged, weak and distracted to take action - to learn, investigate, create, revolt etc.
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Paying taxes is more about people being more poor (less powerful) than they would otherwise be.
And even more than that about keeping the illusion that there is still legit (non-parasitic) government.
Than anything it was historically meant for. (and Americans didnât even pay income tax before 1913)
Because SO much more money is printed - than gained via taxes.
The federal government can create treasury bonds and the federal reserve buys them.
Though other countries buy them as well. Thats another reason for the illusion.
And states like California and individual gov bodies also need money which they can get via taxes.
Espiecially when a gov has overly rent-seeking tendencies - the people need to vote and protest to get less currency flowing from their own pockets into those that donât deserve it.
Iâm not American myself. But I also live in a country whose gov is filled with traitors.
If my homeboys George Washington, Tommy Jefferson, and Ben Franklin - who were aristocratic, wealthy men of means - went where they were treated best, theyâd be in the Dutch Indies, thereâd be no US of A, and the Bank of England would rule the world today.
Again, an excellent tactic but poor strategy. At some point active resistance must occur. Governments really never learn the lesson âGee, maybe I shouldnât enslave peopleâ unless the people bite back.
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agreed. leaving your citizenship on the table isnât biting them. because they donât need you. just as they donât need your taxes.
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Not only do I pay taxes, my great, great, great grandparents paid taxes, donated to build the libraries and volunteered to build strong communities, be it PTA or county councils.
The new migrant doesnât have 100+ years of family paying into our infrastructure. They are stealing from my dead grandparents and my future grandchildren.
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I feel like you meant Kamala, not Kalama. You used to always say that you donât do left or right but now I see a LOT of it. I miss when you were more nonpartisan and less political. We all know youâre incredibly intelligent but this pro-republican stuff is such a turnoff. The two major parties operate like a yin and yang. They cannot stand alone. If youâre going to oppose anyone and everyone who is a democrat and blindly advocate for everyone who is republican, you demonstrate a loss of who you used to always professed to be. As someone who is older than I, you too will recall how we used to ALL KNOW that ALL politicians are crooks. Modern politicians would have you think that the only crooks are one the opposing political side. Anyone who forgets this is dancing the dance they want us to be dancing.
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