Doug: The question in my mind is why we haven't seen runaway inflation or economic collapse while both have been predicted loudly and repeatedly for four decades now, particularly on this site for the past 13 years.I haven't watched the video but I can answer this question; because many people, including many on this site were just flat out wrong. Credit inflation is not the same thing as printing money. Credit is self-extinguishing.
I agree even for 70+ it is may not be the best choice.
I guess the point I was trying to make is that IMO it shouldn’t be recommended for those under 60. Kind of like you wouldn’t think about giving a college kid a shingles vaccine unless there was some extenuating issue.
I find the trials on children disturbing.
As the velocity of money slows [ relative to increase in money supply ], inflation is suppressed. Jim Rickards has a good explanation of this. Debt to GDP has been growing very quickly which demonstrates that the rate of new money creation is outpacing economic activity.
Velocity of money measures how many times a dollar is turned over within a given period of time. If economic activity is slower than the rate of money supply growth than it creates a bottle neck and those newly printed dollars get stuck in the banks…or funneled into the stocks, corporate funds, or ‘non-profit’ schemes run by billionaires.
Bottom line, lots of money is being printed but you and me aint gettin any.
>>> I’d rather die of Covid. My choice.
From what you’ve said, there is Zero chance of that happening. Unless it mutates into something more damaging than recent mutations, who have moved along the “virus mutation” graph towards, more infectious.
I can’t see any reason to vaccinate older folks. Unless the goal is to generate more medical industry revenues.
As is, the CDC/FDA/NIH are saying nothing about Vitamin D & natural ionophores like Quercetin - which is like telling people to eat a little orange peel or banana peel (both great sources of Quercetin) … or just dark skinned grapes.
They’re deliberately refraining from telling at-risk people how to make themselves less at risk.
That tells us a LOT about the CDC/FDA/NIH.
I read the CDC is not actually a US gov. agency. It’s a 501C3 non-profit, with major pharma companies as donors. Anybody know ?
Out of 161 comments so far, I have only found 2 0r 3 posts that ask questions of AT and CM. PP.com just went through an incredibly awkward few months. I am surprised that there aren’t more questions for these two leaders and I think a few tough questions from the membership is appropriate. Don’t get me wrong, I support them; I was the one that was advocating a financial strike to support CM.
Maybe, it’s not the right time. Maybe, CM and AT are incredibly busy right now. I get it. I can be patient, but these questions will still remain.
whoknew79 asked:
I still have questions. Who were the investors? You never really told us. What is their business model? How does their role inform us regular people about the markets that they are in? What other popular websites have financial agreements with the investors? Have you signed a nondisclosure agreement associated with the investors? Or between the two of you? Who pulled the trigger to censor Dave's original post? Why? Why not tell us about this agreement back in late 2019 or 2020? I still don't understand fully why Chris went silent. Why did Chris go silent? If you could jump back to early February, would you have handled the situation differently? Are there ANY other partnerships or financial relationships that aren't public? Will Adam continue a financial relationship with the investors? What is the purpose of the other LLCs associated with Peak Prosperity? I think several have been around for quite some time.travissidelinger asked:
So many questions Does this mean we need two subscriptions now? Does this mean Chris will not cover any market details, and Adam won't cover anything else? Or will there be a gentleman's agreement to cover separate things? Will you guys interview each other? What about the intercetion of the 3E's? Things don't make sense until you put all three together. Meaning one of the E's can't really go it's own way. What happens when all this financial stuff gets real, aka "The dollar really starts to loose confidence, and the central banks go all out war on anyone saying otherwise"? Then what will Adam do? What about the yearly PP conferences? Who's going to be "Time Cop" now? And Who's going to answer email for Chris, because Adam was much better at that? Who's going to model the PP tee shirts?I invite you to think of some good questions for these leaders. I would go so far as to say that it is your job or responsibility. We cannot move past this without fully flushing all of it into the light of the day.
Interesting about the CDC. If true, they are like the Fed.
I believe I heard on one of Dr. Tenpenny’s recent videos, the underwater mortgages are to be held by the CDC. I haven’t checked this out, though.
The CDC is a government regulatory agency. The CDC Foundation is a private entity. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation contributes heavily to it. The conflicts of interest are endless.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859
Doug’s link from the mayo clinic-from the department of salad dressing. Forgive me Doug, whenever I read mayo clinic I think of mayonnaise.
I’ve been expecting huge inflation since 2009 too, but I’m a mere punter when it comes to economics. But I am STILL expecting the inevitable inflation, even though it always seems just around the next bend but never quite arrives. Yet.
The way I look at it is that inflation is inevitable and baked into the cake. I compare that to something I do know a lot about: chemical addiction. If a drug addict continues to abuse drugs, the trajectory of their lives is very predictable. Narcotics Anonymous even has a slogan about the addicts future if they don’t stop: “Jails, Institutions and Death.” The exact details are unknowable and the timing is certainly unknown but the general trajectory of a drug addict’s life is predictable (“based on the fundamentals”).
Do you or have you had any alcoholics or drug addicts in your life? Someone close to you? Did you try warning them that disaster and death were the only things waiting for them ahead on the road they were traveling? I have. Frequently. And I have been frequently amazed how long addicts can keep poisoning themselves and surviving the consequences. I know an addict who was driving a friend’s car while high and had a roll over accident. The engine of the compact car broke loose from its mounts and flew through the windshield and out the back of the car. The addict got a nasty cut on his scalp from the motor missile that required 45 stitches to close. Just THAT CLOSE to being decapitated! Did that wake him up and get him into sobriety and recovery? No. I could regale you with more close calls and very negative consequences that all failed to wake him up and get him on the road to recovery, but take my word for it: he went on through a hail of consequences without dying when he should have. Multiple times. He eventually had enough and now has nearly seven years clean. But I can also tell you many more stories in which the addict did eventually die or get a multi decade prison sentence.
I don’t have an axe to grind or a debating point to prove, but I am sitting on the sidelines expecting the big inflation. When and how big? I’m not sure. But I’m ready. Every day it delays, I’m in better shape. I’ve seen this movie before. I “know” what’s going to happen.
The CDC and CDC Foundation each have review procedures in place to safeguard against possible conflicts of interest.
https://www.cdc.gov/about/business/cdcfoun.htm
The whole video clip is in the article, as well as transcript. It was removed from cnn twitter that I could see.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/cnn-medical-analyst-narrow-window-exists-to-tie-vaccination-status-to-people-getting-freedoms-back
-I mean, you were mentioning, Chris, about how all these states are reopening. They are reopening at 100 percent.”
“And we have a very narrow window to tie reopening policy to vaccination status,” Wen added. “Because otherwise, if everything is reopened, then what’s the carrot going to be? How are we going to incentivize people to actually get the vaccine? So that’s why I think the CDC and the Biden administration needs to come out a lot bolder and say, ‘If you’re vaccinated, you can do all these things. Here are all these freedoms that you have,’ because otherwise, people are going to go out and enjoy these freedoms anyway. And I fear a situation of coming into the fall, where we never reach herd immunity,-
“The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little we know about what we imagine we can design” -FA Hayek
They had some **** to sort out, they sorted it. As far as I could tell the content was still great and at no point did anyone sacrifice their or PP’s integrity. So why the anger? Don’t see many others willing to do what Chris has done and continues to do.
- Wow, there's a lot to unpack there. It'll take me a couple days to get back to you. Although JAG gave a pretty good short answer.
With hard core addictions, the magic age is 27. Several famous addicts have died at that age. Keith Moon, Jim Morrison, Amy Winehouse, Janis Joplin.
If you can make it past that age…and you have money to support your ‘lifestyle’ you’re golden. I mean, look at Keith Richards, the human cockroach. Nothing can kill that guy.
Pigyman said:
They had some **** to sort out, they sorted it. As far as I could tell the content was still great and at no point did anyone sacrifice their or PP’s integrity. So why the anger? Don’t see many others willing to do what Chris has done and continues to do.Interesting response. 1.) I think I could make a strong argument that the content suffered. How about this one thought: If the content was great, then we don't need CM around anymore. 2.) Synonym for integrity: honesty. I would say not disclosing the investors to us would be a form of dishonesty. So, one could argue that integrity was sacrificed. Also, I would say that in the last few months we have seen dishonesty, censorship, and poor communication. I think I could argue that those run a foul of integrity. 3.) Anger? My post is not about anger. You covered up a curse in your post. That's closer to anger than what I said. Do you have a response?
I have been a ChrisMartenson.com and then a PeakProsperity.com member since 2009. In all that time, my connection to this site has been for Chris’s insights, and his integration of information into making sense of what was obviously happening to all of us in this world. I am not a follower in the usual sense, but here, I felt there was a consciousness and a leadership that mattered. So, I have been a faithful visitor to this site for the past 12 years. I only rarely post, but I read everything on the website.
When the pandemic started, I sensed something in Chris had shifted, and after reading the Communication to the Community yesterday, I finally understood what had happened over the past year. Chris is a truth seeker, he will never back down and he will never let any outside influence control him. This is why I am a faithful adherent to his work.
Chris, I know it must have been incredibly hard for you to go through all you have gone through over the past year…with the shifts in your business and your personal life…and your mission…but this is why you are who you are and why you now know what you now have to do. Do it. It is the right path.
For a time, I was wondering in an information vacuum if you had decided that you would rather just live your own private life in the company of the beautiful people and things you have chosen to surround yourself with…or, if your silence was due to family circumstances, knowing that you disclosed your eldest daughter’s struggle with Stage 4 Hodgkin lymphoma. I hope you will someday share with us how she is doing.
And, with your silence over the past several months, I have grown fond of and developed a deep respect for Adam’s intellect…Adam, thank you for carrying the mantle during this time. You are obviously a man of integrity and intelligence, like Chris, which would help to explain your affiilation.
I am all in, with this community. Live long and prosper.
whoknew79 wrote:
I have only found 2 0r 3 posts that ask questions of AT and CM. PP.com just went through an incredibly awkward few months. I am surprised that there aren't more questions for these two leaders and I think a few tough questions from the membership is appropriate.Frankly, I don't think it's any of my business. Or yours. Adam and Chris provide a product; you decide if you want to consume it. If you don't like the terms, move on. When they can - that is, after the legal stuff is settled, which it ain't yet - I'm confident Chris and Adam will share with us what we need to know that they can legally share and choose to share about what happened (although I think that's been answered already; you just don't like the answer), and about their relationship going forward, and how that impacts upon our subscriptions. They'll do that because that's the kind of people they are; if you don't know that, nothing they say will convince you; you'll always be waiting for some hint they're acting deceitfully. Why put yourself or the site through that? What they can't speak about they won't, and what we don't need to know they won't share, and shouldn't. I surely wouldn't, in their shoes. In my shoes, I'm content to mind my own business, not theirs. We are not a citizen's truth tribunal. I will not be demanding Chris and Adam's public self-abasement before deciding whether to forgive the owners of this site for the business decisions they have made in the best interests of their company. None of us is in the position to offer or withhold forgiveness. But, if at any time, in the past, now, or in the future I come to think either of them has abused my trust or strayed from my interests, I will leave. You are your own master and no one else's; you can make a judgement and decision for yourself based on the information you are given or can glean. That's all the power you have. Move on to more useful topics.
I’ve been a long time subscriber and supporter of Chris and Adam’s work and I’m happy they’ve worked out an amicable solution and I do thank them for their hard work over the years. I’ll continue to support PP if Chris stays in his dot connecting mode as I very much value his opinions. I don’t want this to turn in to a farming/sustainability site though as I’m past physically being able to run a farm and have limited interest in the ‘resilience’ side, so whether I stay a subscriber depends on the direction PP takes. I have to say I’m also disappointed that when I private messaged Chris giving him a free audiobook (satire on US empire building), I never even received a reply. Yes, I know he’s busy and I wasn’t expecting much but a one word acknowledgement might have been nice. It is after all, the little things… Still, I hope things work out for them both.
Your post 177 deserves more than a thumbs up… I think you speak for many of us… certainly you do for me. At some point when things resolve and we have a PP.com get together, I will make it my mission to buy a good fake vaccine passport and make my way across the country to a meet up at the HB farm in MA. I look forward to meeting you there, Best regards, JimH