So It's Back To First Principles (Part 1)

But what are you seeing at 18:11:05 that makes you think a shot was fired then? 30 or so seconds before it is clearly apparent that shots are fired, I struggle to see what constitutes evidence of unknown, ‘undetectable’ shots being fired.

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That I’m not sure of, I don’t know of an interview with him off hand, though I also wouldn’t expect him to escape this incident without some kind of formal review. I also don’t specifically see his interview make or breaking a particular argument, so I’m uncertain as to how this affirms or denies anything.

… I’m not quite sure what to take away from this … I don’t doubt that there are many of those fighting that don’t agree with actions taken by those overseeing things. I’m also pretty certain that their goals are not quite the same. Realistically, should they truly want to keep fighting they surely could, US support or not… But if the effort to fight is also dependent on US involvement, I think there is a potential tell …

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I saw Dayve, aiming his phone East down the fenceline at 18:11:04, and then whipping it 90 degrees to the North at 18:11:05, with that sound, almost like a hand stapler, stapling together 2 papers in an office somewhere.
And then, seeing Clay Martin, in August, saying, “God, I know that sound like the voices of my own children!”

Pictures on X showed bullet impacts on the large green machines(I think diesel generators) behind(East of) the center bleachers.
And Hercules2East couldn’t count, but he heard ‘endless’ shots which, he said, sounded ‘suppressed’…‘muffled’…

I should have said “storyful”.
9:24-25 second marks. The videographer zooms in

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Not that I know of.

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OK, I meant to say “about 20 seconds”. I spent a lot of time looking through a playlist of over 200 videos, and pored over old videos looking for clues as to when the police cruisers were put in place, and when the lights were turned on. I didn’t feel like timing the Rick Pemrt video down to the second when it didn’t matter for my purpose.

If Crooks is alive, I’m sure he’s got a new identity and is working for the CIA. He would have gotten plastic surgery to get rid of the underbite, weird ear, and change a couple of other characteristics.

I seriously doubt his parents would be in on scheme.

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Yes, I also wasn’t trying to time it down to the second; just trying to confirm that the video ended ‘about 20 seconds’ before the shots at Trump(and then to Copenhaver, Dutch, and Copenhaver again)
Also, I hadn’t known what Ms Perez by sight, but will guess that she’s facing the phone lens, with white blouse, unbuttoned coat, in the video that ends before stage shots.

Are these the noises around the “make yourself small bro” section of Dayve’s footage?

You don’t think that even possibly ambient noise would be captured on his audio, as in the noises associated with his own movements in the environment? He has been shown both going prone in the grass and running for cover, those actions to me would imply certain sounds associated with them, don’t you think?

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Yes, I agree, but I think he was standing until 18:11:26, ran for 6 seconds, and parked himself under the tree at 18:11:32.
The shot at 18:11:05 was one of the most subtle, possibly due to phone position, but I believe Clay Martin’s statement about that sound.
Other shots before and after that time sound like different caliber.
And you apparently haven’t commented on these, and
the 3 “sounds” in the 2.7 second pause betweeen 3 and 5 supersonic shots are easier to hear, because the crowd north of the fence is quiet.

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Here’s a dumbass question. Did anyone see Crooks shoot the rifle?

We have a video that appears to be modified to show Crooks firing the first shot (some of you will dispute that, I am sure).

Greg Smith says he was 100% sure the guy on the roof fired the shots, but he didn’t see it. I don’t know of anyone who says they saw a muzzle flash. This is while several dozen people to the west of the AGR building were looking right at Crooks, and quite a few people on the top row of the north and central bleachers were looking in that direction as well. Also, did the FBI do a test for gunpowder residue on Crooks like they did on Oswald?

The autopsy on Crooks is looking about as suspicious as JFK’s was, and of course with the body being cremated, any physical evidence from his body is gone.

Trump’s Secret Service was stripped about as bad as it was for JFK. About the only difference is that the bad guys couldn’t round up quite as many shooters for Trump, and God redirected the shots aimed his way.

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Here’s the Rick Pemrt video without having to go through the whole playlist.

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#https://youtu.be/3hsJEvW598E?t=562


red hat = doctor Sweetland

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his head covered

legs grabbed

heart massage
#https://youtu.be/P3N6CV2owsY?t=141


#https://youtu.be/P3N6CV2owsY?t=178

I can feel cognitive dissonance over there. They wear nazi symbols, badges. But they fight against - they call Putin as Hitler. How on Earth to reconcile those things?

They hate Elon - for star link?
I also think it was stupid to burn the flag - they are controlled by hate.

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Yes, they are backup power generators. You can see a few more around the venue.

Maybe unpublished internal interviews - usually classified for 30 years.

But, why should I hire someone to shoot at me - when enemies there are more than enough.

He heard from west side ‘got gun’ and believed the angry red truck guy came back.

If I recall correctly, the Harley Gus said that and [9th] Zaliponi.

Good question.

How many people shouted ‘got gun’? Actually I can hear only one voice, and that could be planted shouter. Assume someone says very loudly at the right moment - it must be checked.

Maybe, or not. But suddenly Blasko started his unexpected action - to send several police officers and finally Collins arrived at the scene. Maybe they hide.

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I’m not sure if you meant it the same way as was typed or not, but I see Dayve as being prone on the ground whilst still filming up to that point, about 18:11:26, where he then gets up and runs over to the tree. He would have been moving around on the ground in order to aim his camera in various directions. And being on the ground his movements have to interact with whatever was around on the ground in the environment, which easily generates sound, and the microphone being that much closer to the environment also makes it more likely for whatever of those sounds to be picked up.



The sounds I hear surrounding Dayve in this section, to me, do not unquestionably sound like shots fired to me, even were they to be subsonic and suppressed, and to couple that with the fact that those particular shots, were they to actually be shots, generated NO response whatsoever, from anybody anywhere. So then, if they were shots, those shots hit whatever they hit, whizzed by all kinds of people, and nobody did anything.

Considering the fact that we have the technology to fire rounds suppressed or at subsonic speeds, or both, I do find this an intriguing avenue of thought and definitely worth exploring more if possible, but I just cannot reconcile certain things as far as supporting that premise. Suppression would have been necessary, to dampen the sounds generated by firing, and that suppression is not complete. Subsonic ammo would have removed the sonic crack, but there is still sound generated by the round flying through the air. But if these methods were utilized and we still hear these things in Dayve’s footage (and if other examples of these sounds exist, I would love to look into them), how were these things effective in all cases except DJStew? And then how was there absolutely no reaction to them specifically, even from DJStew who’s mic picked these sounds up? Shots fired audibly heard on Dayve’s footage would have been heard by Dayve, at the very least, and he would have reacted, no?

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Why should be he alive? The worth of a contract is - whatever you can force. No more, no less. When he died, he can no longer force anything. Unless a powerful ally behind him asks the accountability. All we can be (are) disposable tools.

I found something that I think is new early this morning, way past my bedtime. In one of the earliest videos “There’s a man on the roof!” I just realized that guy is HALF BALD!

https://x.com/JoelWBerry/status/1812648862357549214
As always, the numbers in my photo names refer to the minute and second mark in the video:





The first picture shows his bald spot - he is facing away from the camera. The second shows his face. For the third you are looking straight at the right side of his head and see BOTH the chrome dome and his face. You see that to some extent for the fourth shot, but more bald spot.

Compare this to the image of “Crooks” with a gun on the roof. Notice the full head of hair, and nice shiny dark hair, as Mr. Martenson noticed a long time ago. Also, he never seemed to move at all in early versions of the video. (Not that I could see, anyway). Now that I think of it, that image of Crooks seems unusually in focus and steady, considering how far away the videographer was, and how far in in the phone was zoomed.

Of course, here are the clearer photos of Mr. Crooks both before and after the shooting:



I honestly don’t know what to make of this. There were dozens of honest to goodness rallygoers to the west of the AGR building. They would have seen a body being put on the roof of the building unless there was an extremely sophisticated, worthy of a top tier magician act done.

Also, when I looked at this video:
https://x.com/RektByondRepair/status/1818272145778344296
(Go to the video on X and scroll down to the version without the banner).
You can look at stills, blow them up, and at the moments before and during the first shot there is no one on the roof over the 2nd window of the AGR building. From that videographer’s angle the shooter should be slightly left of the second window, and he’s not there.


The bulge over the roof should be at least as noticeable as Dayve’s head here. After all, a person high up in the bleachers should not only be seeing the shooters head but his shoulders and some of his torso, and the shooter is maybe 125% as far away as Dayve:

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