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Q (HSGAC Minority) Okay. Did you have knowledge of any other federal agencies?
A So I was made aware at some point that there was an ATF agent, but I did not know that he was coming to the site, so I had no idea who coordinated that or why he was on site.
Q And when did you find that out?
A I found that out probably around 4 o’clock p.m. that day.
Q And how did you find out?
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A I believe he was one of – there was a few people that were – that were saying, you know, hey, we’re concerned about this bike rack this bike rack that was like on, on the outer on the – like that the staff put for, to keep the crowd contained. And he was concerned that people, it might fall over, that people might, you know, be able to, to get, you know, get over it. And so then he kind of brought it to my attention.
I was like, “Well, who are you?”
Q Oh, so it was the ATF agent that brought it to your attention?
A Yes.
Q Do you recall his name?
A No. I was like, “Who are you?” He said, “ATF.”
Q And did he, like, have identifying – was he in plain clothes?
A Yeah. He was in plain clothes.
Q Did he show you his credential?
A No.
Q So he just came up to you and said, “I’m an ATF agent?”
A Well, he was talking to me about, you know, he just was acting like part of the plan. And I was just, “Well, who are you?” And he just said, “I’m ATF.”
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A And then I just, I didn’t ask any further questions. I mean, at that point I was just like, okay. I don’t know.
Q Did you talk to anyone else about that, either that day or later?
A I may have said to someone else, like, did you like – why was ATF – I may have said to somebody else, like, “Did you know ATF was coming?” Or, you know, but I don’t know.
Q So you still don’t know?
A I still don’t know why ATF was there or who asked them to be there or what their role was.