So It's Back To First Principles (Part 1)

I personally doubt that shots 4–8 were fired from a sniper rifle, but I’m not a firearms expert. Others in this forum likely have more knowledge than I do.

That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if, even with access to Copenhaver’s X-rays, the injuries turned out to be consistent with a caliber used in AR-15–type rifles.

But the fragments in David Dutch should then belong to a larger caliber.

This could perhaps be proven with X-rays.

@roger-knight

Is there a way to download the original elevation data from randymajors?

They have already built a new barn in the place of the stage and stands. At some point the data on randymajors will also be adapted.

I agree.

I don’t think there’s anything to worry about. RandyMajors shows elevation data from the floor level — so even if you take a measurement from the roof of a house, it will still report the elevation as the floor level.

One important thing we need to be mindful of is the critical video evidence from the official Butler Police body cam footage, which is still publicly available.

Everyone reading this should download the file immediately:

Filename: 1302_202407131800_BWC2122104-0RATF.mp4
Download link (official Dropbox by Lt. Matthew Pearson, Butler Police):

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/z2q10wfcgbmu6gp0knctb/AF1pe9N3t5qmxD9DrTbGy3M?rlkey=fdgi2c93cpooyh8q453rc8fxs&e=8&st=j34crhdz&dl=0

This is the key footage—the one showing Shot 3 coming from Vent 1. If the site is taken down or the video is altered, it will be difficult to prove the authenticity of this critical evidence. The more people who download it, the more witnesses we have to confirm its original form.

To verify that you’ve downloaded the correct and unaltered version:

  • File size: 1.53 GB (1,653,382,504 bytes)
  • SHA-256 checksum:
    8ea10848e5295ae42b66abd0f58db106b99e94a042d47f311e84f50406799f82

If your file matches this hash, you can be confident it’s the original and the untampered version.

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I still don`t know for sure if Donald Trump staged, or not.

What i can tell you, the Secret Service were in involved. They had 2 command centers. An official one, and a secret one. It took me a long time to find the secret one, when i found it, looked inside, they had computer monitors screens watching everything what is going on at the rally. Where there snipers were hiding, and watching Crooks every move. They did not need information from AGR 1 building Nicol etc.

The secret service are a monopoly, they don`t give a s@it about their reputation.

The mainstream media are mouthpeaces for the deepstate. They do as they are told, print what they are told, this does include publishing fake evidence, for example all the New York Times fake images. If they do not do as they are told, their funding is cut, and very likely to go out of business.

The FBI have no powers whatsoever to investigate the secret service , so nothing will come of this.

I don`t believe Kim Cheadle was involved. She was probably told to attend the hearings, keep your mouth shut, likely retired and will receive secret service protection for the rest of her life.

The world dos not operate the way you think it does [no offence]

If Trump told Baldy, “just shoot me right here(ear), & don’t worry about hitting Copenhaver’s arm behind me. Then miss badly on Shot 2 and hit Dutch, to West, and then miss me slightly to the East and damage poor old Copenhaver for the rest of his life.”
Have you tried to colorize Baldy’s face and improve facial details with Photoshop7?

I asked AI and it is very interesting what it had to say, even confirming a .308 Winchester bullet:

Question: what kind of rifle?

Answer from AI:


:magnifying_glass_tilted_left: Rifle Overview

The firearm appears to be a semi-automatic designated marksman rifle (DMR) or precision rifle, likely built on an AR-10 platform. This type of rifle is designed for accurate, long-range shooting.


:white_check_mark: Key Features Identified

1. Platform Type

  • AR-10 style (based on size and proportions)
  • Likely chambered in 7.62×51mm NATO or .308 Winchester

2. Firing Mechanism

  • Semi-automatic: Fires one round per trigger pull, automatically cycles the next round.
  • No bolt-action or automatic features visible.

3. Barrel Attachment

  • Equipped with a suppressor (silencer):

    • Cylindrical attachment at the muzzle
    • Reduces sound and muzzle flash
    • Common in tactical and sniper roles

4. Optic

  • High-magnification scope with a long tube
  • Suitable for medium to long-range precision engagement

5. Bipod

  • Folding bipods mounted at the front
  • Optimized for prone or benchrest shooting
  • Increases stability and accuracy

6. Stock

  • Precision-style or possibly adjustable/fixed stock
  • Designed for shooter comfort and accuracy during prone firing

7. Tactical Profile

  • Flat Dark Earth (FDE) or tan color scheme
  • Designed to blend into natural environments — commonly used by military/designated marksman units

:bullseye: Intended Use Profile

  • Designated Marksman Role (supporting squad with precision fire)
  • Prone or Supported Positions (bipod and optic setup confirm this)
  • Medium to Long-Range Engagements
  • Suppressed operations, possibly for low-profile, overwatch, or counter-sniper duties

:puzzle_piece: Final Assessment

Your rifle appears to be a semi-automatic, AR-10-based designated marksman rifle with:

  • Suppressor
  • High-power optic
  • Folding bipod
  • Precision stock

It’s built for accurate, stable, and quiet shooting, particularly in prone or supported firing positions.

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Is that what you used to “roger” ToughOldBird?

Could you measure the left bleacher again? Over the entire front/lower length and the entire rear/upper length.

When I measure the outer top corner, randymajor shows 1338 feet.

How high is the floor under the tele-handler.

At what height is the hole in the hydraulic pipe?

Was the trump assassination attempt staged? This is such a controversial subject, and i think it will be best say no more on this for now.

I am not trying to debunk anyone on this forum. All i am trying to do is get to the truth, and any new evidence should be considered. In any investigation, you will always get a lot of twists.

Please keep an open mind.

Sorry, i have not done anything with the image in the cloud. I don`t think i will be able to do anything with it.

Yes i agree.

I have always said, this forum and other platforms are being monitored, and some members are being paid to either debunk or provide disinformation, and try to get other members to turn on each other.

This is a good way to tell, on occassions, i have put information on here, and we get some new members!

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Five minutes ago, I sent a picture to a ‘graphic designer’, but I think it really needs an ‘artist’.
I’ll wait for the designer’s answer to the question I asked:

Hi info:
If you can see the left side of a bald man’s face at
x coordinate 209
y coordinate 170
in the 1280x720
010.png picture attached,
would it be possible to enhance and enlarge the image, so that, for example, it could be printed on a T Shirt?
Thanks for your advice,
Sincerely,
(flamecensor)

Thanks for the laugh.
If you were advanced beyond screenshots before I was born (mid 1960s), then the Apollo program could have used your skills - and your computer equipment.

I’ll admit my photo editing skills are a little rudimentary, and my video editing skills are almost nonexistent.

But I do think it’s important to understand the limitations of digital photography and videography, how to minimize recording, uploading, and downloading artifacts, and how to recognize fakery.

We can all learn from each other (excepting the trolls, of course).

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Oh, was that from X?

Anyway, we should get original version, wuthout those captions on it.

Decades ago I made jpg converter for a small microcontroller. It works with 8 by 8 pixels and entropic encoding. Maybe video compressors deal with larger blocks.

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Experts say it is possible but not easy. There were a couple of videos.

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okay.

Was it frangible dum-dum bullet?

btpd patrol 1 - Blasko

What was going on?
Let’s check the timeline.
1808 Kuss radioed he saw someone on the roof.
1811 Collins radioed that the individual had long gun.
30 seconds later shots rang out.
1812 Blasko arrived.

So he should have heard on radio about the long gun. He not just arbitrary grabbed his rifle.

From other hand, if he would have waited 2 minutes before jumped into his car, he was able to tell the wrist talking agent the long gun on the roof was seen. And the command post would have been notified by that suit agent. (Or not.) It is critical timing.

I’m glad to see you’re verifying the numbers — it gives us much greater confidence in our discussions. When everyone independently arrives at the same result, it significantly reduces the risk of individual human error.

To determine the height of the “Speedy Bleachers,” it’s important to first understand the underlying concept. Fortunately, there’s a helpful video that explains everything clearly and features the same 10-bench model used during the rally:

:link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DosyYn8uYfI

The height of the Speedy Bleachers is defined by the position of the wheels, not by measuring the extreme left corner. Since the bleachers are precisely leveled using bubble levels, the correct reference point for sea level elevation is the wheel position.



I estimated the wheel position to be 122 ft from the barns.

Upon rechecking, I confirmed the same result: 1337.403 ft above sea level.


In the meantime, I conducted a more accurate height analysis to assess the impact of the hydraulic pipe. Using the manufacturing drawing, I rotated the boom by 65° (previously, I had used a slightly different angle). To determine the tube’s point of impact, I aligned it with the rectangular hydraulic block. However, I noticed that the drawing used was not of the JCB 510-56 model, but rather the JCB 512.

To correct for this, I looked up a reference image of the actual JCB 510-56, where the hydraulic block’s position is clearly visible. Based on this more accurate reference, I recalculated the height at which the bullet would make contact: 10.92 ft.


The sea level reference was taken from the RandyMajors map at that position, giving a value of 1333.945 ft above sea level

— which is 1.325 ft lower than the AGR 6 building reference height. Therefore, in my CAD system, I set the tube impact height at:
9.595 ft (10.92 ft – 1.325 ft).

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@roger-knight

What is the height of the hole of the third shot in the banner?