So It's Back To First Principles (Part 1)

[gjp]

I was looking to see if I could if I could tell what kind of muzzle brake it is. The body cam photos are too grainy. “Official FBI sources” say it’s a DPMS AR-15 chambered in 5.56.

FBI leads investigation into attempted assassination of former President Trump

A side baffle brake like this might change the tone some turned sideways.

Christensen Arms Side Baffle Muzzle Brake 30 Cal 5/8-24 Thread SS

All the DPMS guns I saw on their site had the standard cheap flash hiders on them. Assuming the muzzle brake wasn’t changed it probably looked like this. Which I wouldn’t expect to change the noise much if at all from turning it sideways at Steward’s position.

[thecountmc]

@claes-wahl

it has a clear custody problem. The FBI impounded it early on, and, hence, it can’t be taken at face value

Just to throw another one into the mix… originally the FBI said there were 2 shooters… Crooks and SS… then after Chris’s video in the audio showing at least 3 shooters …THEN they said there were 3 shooters " Crooks, SS and some “other” law enforcement sniper… like they didnt find that in the 1st 5 minutes I mean law enforcement doesnt need to immediately disclose if they fire a weapon or anything right…just slipped their mind … So lets say Crooks did fire all 8…ok fine do we know exactly who fired the other 2? I mean one clearly hit Crooks… that was either SS or other law enforcement… But WHO exactly fired the other one and where did the other one go… Why did the FBI change their story? from 2 to 3 days after? even more incompetence?

[the-right-to-know]

Yes, you are absolutely correct. The Beaver County ESU body cam video that was released (the 28 minutes version showing medic Michelle climbing the telescopic ladder), is just that: after-the-fact disinformation intended to divert the viewer away from the fact that there was a 10’ tall fiberglass step ladder pre-placed behind the trees at the east breezeway, put there for shooters low-profile access to the roof. The reason I say that is because the video that was just released, the one that shows all the responding officer scrambling to access the roof up a makeshift pallet ladder, who are then all diverted to something behind the trees, is clear evidence that there was existing roof access behind the trees at the time of the shooting. However, in the video from the ESU body cam, which was taken 20 minutes later, this team was briefed in the lobby of the AGR Bldg, and the “man in charge” said ladders were on their way. The give-away is the fact that this ESU team would have been told to use the ladder that everyone earlier had used. It’s a no-brainer.

[allaninvietnam (Allan)]

@aus

ground floor window of the AGR building

I think this window thing and potential shooter is all misleading and probably quite easy to disregard.

Im open minded but I dont think it is true. I dont believe there was any other shooter other than Crooks. It would be very easy for someone living in the area of the AGR site to visit it and check those windows. We dont see any open window in any of the videos. Speculation in this post was that the window was acrylic or had a hole for shooting or other even more outlandish theories. It would be easy to see if any window pane has been recently replaced or recaulked…

This theory is easy to dispel or verify.

[the-right-to-know]

From the still photo of Crooks that I’ve seen - it looks like two rounds hit him in the head.

[commenter]

Thanks for the thought. .007/.22 is 3.18%, twice the maximum variation you mention. (I’d think Crooks would get high quality, consistent ammo with far less such variation, but let’s concede the worst 1.5%.) 1.5%/3.18% is 47%, so this would still leave 53% of 24 feet or about 12 feet unexplained. Crooks still would have had to move forward in 2.783 seconds about 12 feet, reposition, resight, and fire quite accurately at Trump as shot 6 indicates. That implication, imo, is nearly as absurd as with 24 feet.

[commenter]

To be a reflection of his own shirt, he’d have to be in front of the window, but was not. Besides, there are other frames from the same position and angle where the window is mostly black - so even if his red shirt could be reflected, how did the reflection disappear despite the same angle, position, and time (modulo 1-2 seconds)?

[quercus-bicolor-2 (Quercus bicolor)]

@commenter

I estimate the distance between Crooks on the ridge of AGR 6 with the connecting corridor just to his left to be 490 ft, from Google Earth. (See below for how I locate Trump’s stage in GE.) Now, the report in shots 1-3 is .22 seconds, which the equation speed*.22=490 implies speed=2,227 ft/s. This is the speed difference between the sound from the gassy blast at the barrel (1,206 ft/s) and the speed of the bullet that gets recorded at Trump’s mic as it passes by there and creates its own shockwave at the mic. Ok, this implies the bullet was travelling at an average speed of 2,227+1,206=3,433. (This is a bit hot for the usual .223, but perfectly possible; Fiocchi 40gr V-Max starts at 3,650 ft/s; see ballistics here in 2nd column.)

You have an error in this computation. 0.22 seconds is the difference between the arrival time of the bullet and the arrival time of the gun report. 0.22 = report transit time - bullet transit time
= 490/1206 - 490/Vbullet = .4063 - 490/Vbullet.
So 490/Vbullet = .4063 - 0.22 = 0.1863
Vbullet = 490/.1863 = 2630 ft/sec.

If you use Chris’s distance of 453 feet, you will get a slightly higher speed.

[lamarth]

@web

Furthermore, could the video have been tampered with after Stewart’s phone was confiscated?

We’re still at the fun point of video editing that the tech can’t cover up editing in videos. AI could do it, but it would make other things worse. There’s some chance of successfully faking if you drop the quality after editing, otherwise, nope. I could probably figure out if it was edited at that window, if that’s worthwhile.

[the-right-to-know]

This whole video (from the bodycam of the Beaver County ESU team that was the second large group of officers that accessed the roof that day) is disinformation released by the government. I’m almost 100% sure of that. The reason being - is the focus on the “ladders” in the conversation. From Stewart’s video, we see all responding agents (the initial responders - which totaled about 16) refocus their attention from accessing the roof from a make-shift pallet ladder on top of a plastic storage shed on the loading dock, to scurrying behind the trees at the east side of the building breezeway (from where they never return). But in this video, we hear the ESU team get briefed in the lobby of the AGR Bldg that “ladders are on their way”. Why wasn’t this team told to access the roof in the same manner that everyone earlier had used? And why was the federal agent with the red tie not prevalent in the video when Michelle first accessed the roof. You barely catch a glimpse of him in the video. Seems like if he’s the guy in charge - he might be barking orders (or is he there just to make sure the Hollywood production goes as planned). And considering that multiple individuals accessed the roof earlier from a point behind the trees, why don’t you see this method of access (the 10’ fiberglass step ladder shown in the Sky News 4 helicopter video) leaned up against the side of the breezeway when the ESU team crosses the breezeway? And considering Michelle (the medic) eventually stationed herself almost on top of where this ladder was placed - why didn’t she say something about it. And why didn’t both federal agents (the guy in the suit with the red tie, and later the black commander which the tan pants) say something about it. Could it be that in the 20 minutes between the initial response and the time the ESU team captured the scene with their body cam, somebody changed the props? In this video, when the ESU team is getting their briefing in the lobby of the AGR building, you will see two federal officers walking abreast as they exit the hallway behind the briefing. Guns crossed across their chests, they seem to have a snicker on their faces - almost like they are telegraphing the fact they just pulled something off - like maybe taking the 10’ tall step-ladder to a back room. Just sayin’ - it all looks Hollywood to me!

[web]

One of many similar freeze frames I captured with my slowly responding iPhone 13 mini touchscreen. A ball headed dude in the background, or has my imagination painted “images in the clouds”? I was hoping someone with advanced video software would analyze this window.

[vt1 (VT)]

This lift JCB-510-56 might have evidence of where the bullets hits.

https://youtu.be/Z7PdhHC2zr0?t=1120

The arrow in the right shows the location of the bullet hit in the hydraulics.

The other 2 arrows points to some strange dots of what could be other hits.

[grey_mk2]

Cullen’s videos are entertaining, but I don’t come away convinced about what he is putting forward

[commenter]

It’s clear from Senator Ron Johnson’s July 30 report that SS “command” was

• monopolizing the receipt and passing on of information from local LEOs to SS sniper teams
• monopolizing the receipt, and passing on, of SS sniper team requests on to local LEOs
• choking and slowing down these mediated local LEOs - SS sniper teams communications

At 5:40, local AGR sniper 1 (who is Greg Nicol, known to have taken pic of Crooks) must go through “command” to relay info about Crooks. This is done by 5:41 via fast RADIO.

At 5:45 a local sniper does manage to send a pic and text to a SS sniper team leader (may or may not be part of command).

How fast does this SS sniper team leader pass on this info to SS snipers? 8 minutes later this SS sniper team leader EMAILS SS sniper teams a non-specific, generic message that "local law enforcement [is] looking for a suspicious individual outside the perimeter, ‘lurking around the AGR building’. That’s sabotage of SS sniper teams’ ability to respond, 100%, no doubt.

Between 5:41, when Greg Nicol has sent out the text and pic to SS sniper team leader, and when SS sniper teams read a generic email from said SS sniper team leader no earlier than 5:53 pm, 12 precious minutes have gone by. Are SS sniper supposed to get their eyes off their binoculars and scopes every 30 seconds or so to check their email just in case their SS sniper team leader has emailed them something important? Sabotage! (We don’t even know that the email included a picture of Crooks, btw.)

Then at 6:11pm, According to SS Acting Director Rowe, “a member of former President Trump’s protective detail contact[s] their Pittsburgh Field Office to inquire about the radio update that there was an issue local law enforcement was looking into near the perimeter.” So between 5:53 pm, when SS sniper team leader sent out an email, and this 6:11 pm request by shut out SS snipers, 18 minutes have passed. SS sniper team leader and/or command have not been updating regularly the worried SS sniper teams about the suspect. Not even “we have no new info on the suspect” every few minutes. SS snipers need to get off their binos and scopes and beg for an update from the monopolizing command/sniper team leader. But worse, they may not even be trying to get the info from command/SS sniper team leader, but from Pittsburgh Field Office [=Timothy Burke SAIC]. This suggests they are so frustrated that they try to bypass command/SS sniper team leader, or that command = SS sniper team leader is controlled by PFO under Timothy Burke.

It’s pretty clear command/SS sniper team leader (and perhaps PFO) was sabotaging the SS team snipers, both in getting timely and precise information diligently pushed out by local LEOs, distracting them in the process by having to read emails and request updates when few were coming in.

[thc0655]

@phecksel

Why wouldn’t he believe the police (USSS) would be competent, they are {allegedly} the best of the best of the best.

Men in Black: Best of the best HD CLIP

[mjx]

there was a meme where trump instructing crooks to shoot his ears “you are the best shooter blah blah”

does anyone have a link to that? i couldnt find it anywhere after the initial run

[thc0655]

@darwin-t

What bothers me a lot about all of this is there evidently no autopsy done on the shooter. All we heard is he died of a gunshot to the head. How could they not have done an autopsy?

You can be sure an autopsy has already been completed and the FIB is keeping the report a secret.

[darwin-t]

I think with the faster shots, we are only hear the bullets breaking the sound barrier and not the boom from the gun. I silenced the noise between them and spaced them together and I can’t tell the difference.

Gunshots spaced

You can do the same thing by removing the report from the gun after the first three shots and just listen to the bullets breaking the sound barrier without changing the timing

[vidor-emeliabelfort]

Exactly my point.
People are expecting broken glass.
We’re talking about institutions that coordinate coups, kill foreign assets driving @ 65mph & bomb them unimpeded in their residences worldwide.
And we’re talking about, ironically, a DS derived glass manufacturer with ties to those military means.

People generally have ZERO idea the technology that exists.
We still don’t know where the bullet came from that killed JFK over 60 years ago.

3-4 inches?
Heck they can probably shoot through the size of a bullet.
DC sniper anyone?

-VE

[the-right-to-know]

An all-encompassing independent investigation can never happen - as the government has full control of the evidence. We all know the federal government is completely broken, but yet we do nothing about it! Not until we truly begin to suffer, will there ever be change. If Trump had actually been killed, would that have changed any of our lives - for better or worse. NO! Not until our children start dying in foreign wars, or we loose our homes and fortunes because of the demise of the US dollar, will things change.