So It's Back To First Principles (Part 2)

Some webmasters use Javascript and are able to disable the right click function. which disables click and paste to copy anything of a webpage. When i come across this problem, i can still do screenshots.

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Yes, it is amazing on his video footage we only see big and small blood drops. When he is taken away, there is a few gallons of blood all over the place. Bare in mind, the footage also contains footage from another rally attendee and the other from the news media. The news media footage has been AI manipulated especially around Corey`s head. :sunglasses:

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Recently I cannot use Ctrl-F in “Part 1” (maybe all closed topics) to find posts.

Correct.

It is not the “Least Action” principle which is at fundamental level.
At higher level nothing will compel you to do something as simple as possible.
Even DNA is not the simplest possible encoding scheme of life.
Redundancy in some cases is not something not necessary, indeed the excess of reservation is needed very often.

Decades ago a physicist said: systems “like” to be between the total order and total disorder. Later someone else explained that it is the complexity.
A perfect crystall is boring, as well some gas (the origin of this word is chaos). But in between there can happen interesting things, life for example - it is complexity.

Just one more thing: the Energy Minimum Principle leads to thermodynamics. When you take the system together with its vicinity, the energy does not change at all. Just spreads out, increases the entropy.

Occam’s Razor is a heuristic, not a fundamental law — and complexity, redundancy, and entropy all have legitimate, even necessary, roles in nature and theory. Here’s a cleaned-up and clearer version of your explanation that could help convey your point more precisely:

Occam’s Razor is only a heuristic — not a law of nature.

While it is often useful to prefer simpler explanations when all else is equal, there is no fundamental principle in physics or biology that demands simplicity. At a fundamental level, the Principle of Least Action plays a central role in physics — not Occam’s Razor.

In nature, systems often exhibit redundancy, complexity, and even what might seem like inefficiency. For example, DNA is not the most compact or minimal way to encode life. It includes introns, repeated sequences, and regulatory elements that at first seem excessive — yet they serve important roles.

This apparent “excess” often contributes to robustness, adaptability, or evolutionary flexibility. In fact, redundancy can be necessary. It’s not about doing the simplest thing — it’s about what works, survives, or emerges under constraints.

Years ago, a physicist remarked that systems tend to organize themselves between total order and total disorder. Too much order — like a perfect crystal — is static and “boring”. Too much disorder — like a gas — is chaotic and featureless. But in between lies complexity — and that’s where life and interesting phenomena happen.

Finally, it’s worth noting that the Energy Minimum Principle underlies thermodynamics. But when you consider the system plus its environment, it’s not about energy minimizing alone — it’s about entropy increasing. Energy may spread out, and order may give way to disorder, not simplicity.

Conclusion:
Occam’s Razor can be a helpful guide in science and reasoning, but it should never be mistaken for a fundamental principle. Nature is not obligated to be simple — only consistent with its own deeper laws.

But if we believe Roger Knight, he was already in the toilet behind vent 1, but he wasn’t alone. His colleague had to open and close the vent panel, and since he was shy, he didn’t want to pee in front of him!
And there were two others, still according to Roger, behind vent 2 who perhaps also needed to pee, which would explain why they were shooting so poorly with their rifles! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: :flushed: :woozy_face:

a quick search indicated that Firefox could restore right click, but that Chrome needed an extension…not sure about Edge, Opera, or Safari(which Steven Jobs said was based on the Konqueror browser in KDE).

Shot 3 – Corey Comparatore Fatal Shot Analysis (Continued)

We have presented video evidence indicating that Shot 3 originated from Vent 1 of AGR Building 6. A potential weapon has been identified at that location. Assuming the sniper in the nest was targeting Donald Trump, we traced a direct line from Vent 1 to Trump’s ear. Notably, this trajectory passes precisely through the location where Corey Comparatore was standing at the time the shot was fired.

Additionally, video and photographic evidence confirm that Shot 3 impacted a cylinder pipe containing high-pressure hydraulic oil. Ballistic assessment suggests the round may have been a .308 Winchester.

Despite this, we are still unable to construct a consistent and plausible shot line. Although Corey Comparatore stood in the most dangerous position along the suspected trajectory, let us assume he was not hit by Shot 3. In that case, the next target would logically be Donald Trump. However, as we all know, Trump was not struck by Shot 3, despite the shooter being presumed to be a trained professional. The final candidate in line would be the hydraulic pipe cylinder, but this trajectory does not match either, as shown in the analysis below:

At this point, it may seem we’ve reached a dead end—an unsolvable “Sudoku puzzle?”


The Breakthrough: New HD Imagery Reveals Four Impact Points

A critical development came with the discovery of a high-definition photograph that reveals four distinct impact shots, offering a new foundation for trajectory reconstruction:


Full-resolution image available here:
:link: HD Image

Among these, one impact is of particular interest: it penetrates a banner and strikes the bleacher pole behind it. We can confidently associate this impact with Shot 3, based on visible debris on the banner, which clearly indicates a projectile from behind the banner:

Given the established origin of Shot 3 in AGR Building 6, we now attribute this banner-to-bleacher pole trajectory to Shot 3.


Attribution of Shots 4–8

Shots 4 through 8 were fired in rapid succession, making significant repositioning of the shooter unlikely. Therefore, the remaining visible impact points can reasonably be assigned to Shots 4–8 of which we assume Crooks was shooting.

One of these rounds struck Copenhaver, with evidence confirming that one bullet remains lodged in his body. Based on audio analysis—and consistent with video footage of the moment Copenhaver collapses during Shot 6—it is most plausible to assign Shot 6 to this injury. Chris’s video commentary also expressed uncertainty about Shot 6, which supports this conclusion.

This leaves Shots 4, 5, and 7, which can be assigned to the other nearby impact points, based on spatial proximity and audio interval timing. As of now, Shot 8 remains unassigned, as no clear corresponding impact has yet been identified in the expected vicinity.


Conclusion

Although some uncertainty remains in the detailed attribution of Shots 4–8, the evidence strongly supports the conclusion that they were fired from a fixed position with limited deviation. The discovery of four distinct impact points, particularly the one associated with Shot 3, significantly advances our understanding of the event’s trajectory dynamics.


Break Time for Questions or Counter-Evidence

At this point, we’ll pause for discussion. Please bring forward any questions, alternate interpretations, or counter-evidence that might refine or challenge the current reconstruction. :hot_beverage:

I know we have been good friends on this forum, I am not taking sides here, and we do have a difference of option on daft places where possible shooters were hiding, so please keep an open mind.

I have managed to zoom in all over the AGR building. Roof panels, roof side panels, side panels, ventilation shaft vents open up, and i saw people hiding and looking through them, especially AFR 1. No evidence of anyone pointing a weapon and being a potential shooter.

I think the AGR is, or was a secret military base. I have done my very best to find the plans inside the building, and i don`t think i ever will. I am there will ne a loo, and many of them somewhere.

I am not an expert on Javascipt. I believe when a webmaster creates his/her website, s/he is able to disable the right click option when writing the code. This was a while back, and their may be other ways and means to get around this problem now.

One additional information:

Using the @kincses-zsolt ruler method, I’ve found a much simpler way to demonstrate Copenhaver’s exact position relative to shots 4 through 8. By counting three stars to the left starting from the metal pole, it becomes clear that Copenhaver is standing directly in the danger zone when these shots are fired.

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I think it was Nicol’s tripod, not Murcko’s rifle. Not handed over.
Clever, they were mostly behind the PI guy.

Yes you’re right, it’s his tripod so this weapon is not usable behind vent 1 as affirmed by Roger …

I wrote too much javascript 20 years ago, but need to learn some of the new methods.
Simplest javascript last week didn’t work in Firefox, Chrome, or Edge, but Edge clued me:
I needed a simple meta tag called ‘viewport’.
Then Edge & the others were happy:

meta name=“viewport” content=“width=device-width, initial-scale=1”

In our analysis, we have classified the gun as a potential weapon identified at that location.

As we know, in the two-story building, his official gun was mounted on a tripod.

It is evident that the gun he is holding is not the same one referenced in the Grassley Report. Additionally, the presence of small bipods on the gun for the purpose of mounting it on a tripod doesn’t seem logical. A more plausible explanation is that he may simply be stowing away the tripod that was used with the upstairs weapon.

Thank you for pointing out this detail. For the time being, I will continue to classify this gun as a potential weapon, as there is currently no conclusive evidence ruling out the possibility that it could have been fired from Vent 1. As Chris would put it, this remains in the “yellow zone”—not definitively confirmed, but certainly a detail that warrants further examination.

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Shot 3 – Corey Comparatore fatal shot analysis (continued)

Video evidence indicates that Shot 3 originated from Vent 1 of AGR Building 6, where a potential weapon has been identified. Assuming the sniper in that position was targeting Donald Trump, we traced a direct line from Vent 1 to Trump’s location. Significantly, this trajectory passes precisely through the spot where Corey Comparatore was standing at the time the shot was fired.

Additionally, video and photographic evidence confirm that Copenhaver was injured twice between Shots 4 and 8, and that Shot 3 struck a cylindrical pipe containing high-pressure hydraulic oil. Ballistic analysis suggests the round may have been a .308 Winchester, which passed through the banner and grazed the bleacher pole behind it.

If this is plotted in the CAD system, it appears as follows:

I approach this section with the utmost respect for Corey, as it addresses the most sensitive aspect of the events that day. Reviewing Corey’s own video, he remains in the same position while Shots 1 through 3 are fired. Since his location lies directly along the line between the sniper in Vent 1 and Trump’s head, we can reasonably conclude that Corey was struck on in the head by Shot 3 while still standing.

As noted by @flamecensor, it is reasonable to question whether he would have dropped his phone immediately upon being hit. This is a valid point. However, according to ChatGPT, it is possible that he could have retained hold of the phone for several seconds, depending on the precise location of the impact.

This information completes the missing segment of the bullet’s path: the round deviated slightly to the left, narrowly missing Trump, continued through the banner, and ultimately struck the hydraulic tube.

We will now take a short break for questions and analysis.

How? I can buy Trump turning his head at just the perfect point, but how does a trained sniper miss 3x at that short of a distance? I can hit a small circle without a tripod at those distances, and I’m just an average shooter. Trained snipers can hit small targets at several hundred yards. 150-200yd is a freaking chip shot.

The distance was 150 yards, and the shooter was falling to his right(West) after his 1st shot.
These 10 frames, from a 30 frame/second video, show that he was way off balance for his 2nd shot. His 3rd shot was another near miss:

Yes, as you say, shot 1 was a bull’s-eye, and Trump turned his head at the last second. I’ve already discussed this with @phiphi-the-frenchie here:

I would even argue that the idea of Crooks being on a hot roof, using a red dot sight, and still hitting a bull’s-eye with his first shot is even more unbelievable. But I suppose we simply have two different opinions on how shooters perform under stress.

So, we can already agree that it wasn’t all three shots as you claim. Shot 1 was a bull’s-eye, and Trump was lucky.

Me too—but could you do it in a high-stress situation, knowing that if you were spotted, you’d be facing the electric chair?

According to our analysis, shot 3 came from vent 1, meaning the two shooters would have had to be synchronized. That means not only was there the fear of the death penalty, but the shooter in vent 1 also had to fire within seconds of the first shot giving additional pressure to the sniper.

Another point we can evaluate: in the video evidence of shot 3 from vent 1, the sequence is clear—the vent opens, the shot is fired, and the vent closes again—all within one second.

shot-from-vent-1

This strongly suggests there was no time to aim; the rifle must have been set up and pre-aimed before the shooting started.

Looking at Corey Comapratore’s position seconds before he was shot, he was filming the video screen with his head turned away, leaving a clear line of sight between vent 1 and Trump.

When the shooting began, vent 1 opened, the shot was fired within a second without much time for aiming, but unfortunately for Corey, he had turned his head toward Trump while filming—putting himself directly in the line of fire between vent 1 and Trump.

The fact that Corey was filming Trump during shot 3 is confirmed by his own video.

I believe I’ve made my point that the saying “professional snipers never miss simply doesn’t hold true under the circumstances of this situation.

Corey’s vicinity: