Continuing the discussion from So It's Back To First Principles (Part 1) - #10257 by roger-knight.
Previous discussions:
âll guess some type of improvised body armor, something like Kevlar, though the Kevlar Iâve had is more of a golden color.
What ever the mysterious white object was, it looked like a miniture rocket, and had about 4 legs on it. In other images, i have seen this same object being used, i am not sure if it is some sort of body amour.
Wow, we`ve reached 10.000 posts.
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10,000 Posts â Congratulations!
Congratulations to everyone who has contributed to this forumâweâve reached 10,000 posts!
Weâve now presented undisputed firsthand video evidence in our last post showing that the first shot struck Trumpâs ear before hitting the bleachers. You can view this critical footage here:
Updated Ballistics Analysis
Based solely on forensic ballistics and firsthand photographic and video documentationâand completely excluding eyewitness testimonyâwe have reached the following conclusions (subject to change if new evidence arises):
Two Major Recent Discoveries
- Hydraulic Cylinder Impact
A recently uncovered photo of the hydraulic cylinder pipe reveals an impact consistent with a .308 Winchester or similar caliber. This evidence rules out the possibility that Crooks fired shot no. 3.
- Confirmed Firing Location â ARG Building 6
Most significantly, we have discovered video evidence confirming that at least one shot was fired from Ventilation 1 of ARG Building 6âa location long speculated about in this forum. This theory has now been proven correct.
First hand proof can be downloaded here:
Download the Police Bodycam Footage
Official Dropbox Link
- Filename:
1302_202407131800_BWC2122104-0RATF.mp4 - File Size: 1.53 GB (1,653,382,504 bytes)
- SHA-256 Checksum:
8ea10848e5295ae42b66abd0f58db106b99e94a042d47f311e84f50406799f82
Crooks Did Not Fire Any Shots
Based on the current evidence, our analysis concludes that Crooks did not fire any shots. This raises a critical question:
Who were the actual shooters, and what type of rifles were used?
Next Steps â Shooter Identification
A key resource for this investigation is the outstanding work compiled by @vegaspatriot in the document:
[Recognition Tools (Rev 22).pdf]
https://tribe.peakprosperity.com/uploads/short-url/vvLiRzZcTaXPd6enImz06qrwWfB.pdf
Using this document, we should begin forming new hypotheses regarding:
- The potential identity of the shooters
- The weapons and calibers involved
- Possible vantage points and timelines
Letâs keep pushing forward with evidence-based analysis to uncover the full truth.
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Who is/are âweâ?
Please donât include me in your ridiculous conclusions.
YOUR green line from your shooter to Trump to the corner made a large green hole in ToughOldBird, remember?
By the way, JD Wilcox wants to know the name of WRSWAT guy - allegedly the first of first responders on the rooftop.
The unnamed guy. His name was NOT redacted. It was not KNOWN.
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A task force member said, roughly: fortunately it was a lone gunman, but imagine it would had been a multidimensional attack by organisations.
Now, I think at the recent level of distraction, indeed it was a multidimensional attact, at least to distract the investigation. (At least Iâm confused.)
TOB and Copenhaver almost simultaneously react.
DJT is little slower. He holds his hand on the lectern, maybe relies on. So when he leans ahead, maybe his arm was supported by the lectern. Therefor he was unable to react as fast as free hand.
This time I donât relay on the sound. Either the sound propagation or the delay time of recordings might make some magic. We should be consistent and avoid unknown factors.
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If the bullet took 1/5 second to reach DJT, I think itâs possible he sensed it approaching 1/10 second early, and turned to see it coming.
TOB was already edgy after the bullet landed behind his back.
And RedHatWhiteShirtBeigeShorts guy also may have been nervous if he heard some of the 2 dozen preceding suppressed shots.
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RE: Mathew James Shafner
I can go one step further, and provide details of the Police station he is stationed at. 1 year later, as far as i know, he is still there.
They have been doing it from day 1 trying to distract us from the investigation, and still doing it. Every new video/images i come across i have to study them first if they are fake or not before going any further.
Let`s keep at it.
The identity of the shooter, who fired audio shots 1 2, and 3 is now known.
My analysis of audio shots 4, 5. 6, 7, and 8. They were fired from a boomlift at the back of the AGR building. I am pre occupied with other problems at the moment, when i get time, i will make another attempt to zoom and i believe it is possible to identify the shooter[s].
I have spent months trying to find the John Cullen tree shooter from the Northeast. I am convinced he does exist, and these are the reasons why.
[1] I was given images of a tree [located at junction of meridian road]. In
this tree, at least 2 guys in uniform could be seen stood on a boomlift
high up.
[2] Very near to this tree/boomlift. There was another tall tree, According to google maps, it was there in November 2023. Then in July 2024, it mysteriously disappeared. This missing tree is in the line of sight, between the tree.boomlift and trump podium. Unless i can find another Dayve who took more videos in that area when the shots were fired in my opinion, i don`t think the identity of this shooter will be known.
I got no reply from the graphic designer, but I should have cropped any mention of âTrumpâ from the (whole) frame, because his name alone provokes political emotions.
Iâm experimenting with enlarging the 6x6pixel head pictures myself with PhotoShop7, and will try other graphic âartistsâ and omit clues about the source of the images of the man kneeling on the AGR4 roof 1/5 second before DJT and James Copenhaver were hit by Baldyâs 1st shot.
Zooming in and examining just 5 frames (0.2 seconds) of the video clearly shows that the first shot grazed Trumpâs ear before striking the corner of the bleachers, generating debris.
Zoom in to your brain(if applicable) and examine it.
The only debris that hit the banner was from David Dutchâs ribs, hit with Shot2.
The bullet that hit the rail came from Northeast, and the zinc/lead dust rolled southwest, not south.
And it was behind the back of the ToughOldBird shirt corner man.
Your video appears to be an altered version of the one originally posted on July 19, 2024.
https://x.com/YWNReporter/status/1814294874860167397
Itâs important to make a habit of showing the original, first-hand videos whenever possible to avoid any misinterpretation.
In this case, using the original footage and including a few more frames makes it clearer for everyone to see the debris caused by the impact of the first shot on the top corner of the bleachers.
No, youâre the one who started using âalteredâ videos(and altered audios).
You began with faked audio.
Now youâve photo-edited frames from the enlargements that I made.
I didnât know we were allowed to cheat.
No one trusts youâŚprobably not even whoeverâs paying you.
Hypothesis on Multiple Shooters in the Trump Assassination Attempt
After extensive analysis of firsthand video evidence showing that the first shot grazed President Trumpâs ear and then struck the corner of the bleachers, we suggest closing that line of inquiry. The more pressing discovery lies in the newly identified impact on the hydraulic pipe, believed to be caused by a .308 Winchester caliber round. This directly challenges the theory that Thomas Crooks was the sole shooter, as his AR-15-style rifle is not compatible with that caliber.
Additionally, Butler Police bodycam footage provides clear visual confirmation that at least one shot was fired from vent 1.
Download the Police Bodycam Footage
Official Dropbox Link
- Filename:
1302_202407131800_BWC2122104-0RATF.mp4 - File Size: 1.53 GB (1,653,382,504 bytes)
- SHA-256 Checksum:
8ea10848e5295ae42b66abd0f58db106b99e94a042d47f311e84f50406799f82
Forming a Hypothesis: Coordinated Sniper Teams
As part of our Citizens Investigation Group, we propose a working hypothesis grounded in ballistic data and visual evidence. It appears increasingly likely that shots originated from both vent 1 and vent 2, suggesting the involvement of two coordinated shooters. Following standard sniper team protocol, each shooter would be accompanied by a spotter, who assists with real-time targeting through rangefinders and binoculars.
This points to a four-person operational structure:
- 1 shooter/spotter team: Positioned at vent 1
- 1 shooter/spotter team: Positioned at vent 2
Controversial Role of AGR Building 4: Bravo Team
Please refer to the latest âRecognition Tools (Rev 22).pdf from @vegaspatriot for visual references and diagrammatic breakdowns.
A key area of concern centers on AGR Building 4, where Sergeant Gregory M. Nicol and Michael Murcko were stationed on the second floorâclose to Crooksâ rooftop position on Building 6. Internal communications and visual documentation refer to ESU snipers in AGR 4 as the âBravo Team.â
Earlier that day, Crooks was seen inspecting the vents and behaving in a notably relaxed and confident manner, which may imply he felt protectedâpossibly due to a connection with the Bravo Team on the second floor.
There are conflicting accounts of whether members from the âBravo Teamâ remained at their post or moved out to pursue Crooks, adding ambiguity to their role. If this was a coordinated operation, itâs conceivable that Crooks was set up as a patsy. In that scenario, documenting his presence via photos or messages was essentialâparticularly if he survived and fled the scene. The first individual to report Crooksâ presence is of special interest in this context.
Suspicious Activity by Jason Woods
Significantly, the first mention of Crooks did not come from Nicol, but from Jason Woods, a senior sniper and leader of the Bravo Team.
At 4:19 p.m., Woods sent the message:
âGuys I am out. Be safe.â
This message was dispatched shortly before Trump was scheduled to speak at 5:00 p.m., prompting serious concerns: Why would the lead sniper leave his post at such a critical moment?
Then at 4:26 p.m., Woods followed up with:
âSomeone followed our lead and snuck in and parked by our cars⌠heâs sitting ⌠on a picnic table about 50 yards from the exit.â
These communications raise two critical questions:
- Did Woods truly leaveâor did he reposition to a vent location?
- Was this narrative constructed to implicate Crooks and solidify him as the fall guy?
Given the timing, tone, and content of the messages, Woods emerges as a strong candidate for having occupied one of the vent positions.
The NicolâMurcko Pairing
Further suspicion is warranted due to the fact that Gregory Nicol also circulated photos of Crooks, seemingly contributing to the effort to frame him.
In his YouTube video, @cmartenson practically says the quiet part out loud and identifies Nicol and Murcko as likely participantsâNicol as the shooter, and Murcko as the spotter. This theory aligns with numerous visual anomalies.
For instance, flashes of light visible from windows of ARG 6 building may be attributable to the use of digital rangefinders or binoculars, tools typically handled by spotters.
Moreover, the Grassley Report lists the standard rifles assigned to Bravo Team, which do not match the rifle Nicol is seen holding in a specific photo. That weapon appears to be a .308 caliber rifle with a compact bipod, typically suited for prone (laying) sniper positions.
The first three audible gunshotsâdescribed as distinctive âthumpâ and âcrackâ soundsâare characteristic of suppressed high-caliber fire, likely consistent with the use of a silencer on Nicolâs weapon.
Communications Failure â or Intentional Inaction?
One glaring inconsistency is the alleged lack of radio communication between the Bravo Team and the Secret Service personnel stationed at the stage. This claim contradicts known facts: Mike Murcko radioed âShooter is downâ at 6:12:11 p.m.
If communication existed at the time of the shooting, why wasnât a warning issued when Crooks was first identified as armed on the rooftop minutes before the shooting?
Disclaimer and Call to Action
This document presents a working hypothesis based on publicly available video analysis, ballistic findings, and tactical behaviors. No individual named herein has been legally or formally implicated. The goal is to provide a logical framework for further investigation.
We invite fellow researchers, analysts, whistleblowers, and concerned citizens to:
- Contribute additional evidence
- Scrutinize inconsistencies
- Propose alternate theories
- Help refine this hypothesis toward greater truth and transparency
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Here is the problem:
They try to convince people about the lone wolf case. So it is in their interest that the distraction is NOT to be obvious.
(I already mentioned the Texar brothers from Jules Verne book, a wise distraction.)
The Texar brothers are characters in Jules Verneâs novel North Against South
Maybe. He moves his head a little. Probably as the result of graze. However, it is also possible, incidentally, he just wanted to gain a better look on the jumbotron at that moment.
Anyway, I should suppress my bias.