The fact that the top corner of the bleachers is higher than Trump’s ear produces a trajectory, showing that shot 1 originated from the AGR Building 6 near Window 2.
And why assume subsonic? The first shot was supersonic.
You seem to have a flawed understanding of what a Mach cone is. The cone shape represents how the sonic crack propagates in relation to the bullet’s position. It does not draw a border that confines the sound. The sonic crack propagates in all directions from the line-of-fire and travels for a long distance. I tried to find online sources that quantify what that distance is but did not find anything, unfortunately. However, from my own analysis, I can say that at 75 meters off the bullet’s path the sonic crack is very loud. I put together a video for you that clearly shows this. Please be sure to read the description for the video since there is a lot of important detail there.
It’s been a year now, so maybe you all have forgotten, but three of us here on this forum invested dozens (hundreds?) of hours working independently and using different approaches to analyze the gunshot audio data, and we all came to the firm conclusion that the first 8 shots were all fired from the same spot, within a remarkably tight radius. Despite those clear findings, the multiple-shooter theories abound. Oh well, I gave it my best shot.
Welcome back, and thank you for your contribution.
In one of his last analyses, Chris made a strong point by comparing the echoes of shots 1–3 with those of shots 4–8, recorded from the west side of the building. He highlighted the significant time difference between the two volleys.
This suggests that the two volleys are not originating from the same location. But how can the echoes change if the walls they bounce off remain fixed?
Based on his stance, the shot would have struck the arm directly rather than just grazing it.
However, when looking at shots 4–8, it seems far more realistic that one of those could have grazed Copenhaver’s arm—especially considering that Crooks was not aiming at Trump, but rather firing five random shots into the crowd.
I drew a straight line that could have ended on either side of Copenhaver’s arm.
Also, the bullet trajectory was never ‘straight’, and was less ‘straight’ after hitting Trump’s tough ear.
If you listen to the Source 4 video, there is a very obvious difference in the sound made by shots 4-8 vs. shots 1-3. It’s so obvious to the human ear that no detailed echo analysis is needed to hear the difference. So, why is there such a big difference? A quick look at the video tells the story.
During shots 1-3, the person holding the smartphone was facing Northeast:
In the 2.8 seconds between shots 3 and 4, the person moved significantly closer to the tree. He also turned completely around! During shots 4-8, he was facing toward the Southeast:
While smartphone mics are certainly not the most directional devices among audio equipment, I can easily imagine that turning the phone around 180 degrees would produce a different sound timbre and the combined attenuation of the phone being turned and the person’s body blocking sound from behind could easily produce a different echo signature.
When analyzing the sound from a Smartphone, it’s unwise to not consider the video as well. Unfortunately, it looks like @cmartenson really dropped the ball on this one and put out some false info as well as coming to the wrong conclusion. I did that myself when I publicly released my first YouTube video and misidentified the location of shots 9 and 10. But as soon as I realized where I went wrong, I edited the Description section of video #1 to explain the error, and I put out video #2 as soon as I could to show the updated results.
I’m sure there was only one shooter and that it was Crooks. Sorry to rain on the conspiracy parade! At this point, I’m just happy that Trump is alive and am ready to move on.
I do hear what you’re talking about, but to me the extra “shots” sound more like either grass rustling or fingers moving on the phone. I think I saw a YouTube video where an ex special ops guy was insistent this is exactly what suppressed gunfire sounds like, but I’ve got to disagree on that.
It’s been a while, but that sounds like Dayve Stewert’s phone, am I right? If there was a suppressed shot, the other phone that was 42 meters away should have also been able to hear it.
While suppressed rifle shots are measurably quieter than un-suppressed, they are still pretty loud, even when subsonic ammo is used.
If I look very closely, yes, I think I can make out the image of a bald man there!
p.s. I just took a look at the Stewert video. When these extra “shots” are heard, Dayve is getting all the way down on the grass. He may even be laying down prone at that point. So, take a look at the video and I think you will see what I’m talking about.
Yes, Greg, it’s from Dayve’s phone, and three sounds are more like cricket bat sounds(as reviewed by cricket umpires, to determine whether a cricket ball had hit a batsman’s bat).
The first sound may be B Major…2nd and 3rd sounds may be E Major…higher pitch, but not a whole octave higher.
Also, Dayve’s phone recorded other people on the roof, and even a an artificial tree, maybe from Cabela’s, or Bass Pro:
Wait, @flamecensor are you some kind of troll or something like that? Am I the only one on here that can see your messages because everyone else has you blocked?
I thought about blocking Roger at one point, but I just couldn’t bring myself to do it because he just seems like such a nice guy! Just very tunnel-visioned. But perhaps that term also describes me!
Thanks for that, Greg.
I emailed mentalhealth.org.nz, but they replied, “Bald man? What bald man?”
But here’s one of three pictures that seem to contain a bald man:
No. I’ve got to completely disagree. He is definitely not completely bald. I think I see a pretty substantial band of hair on the back of his head. So, as someone who is personally losing a bit of my own hair, I say he should more respectfully be called “balding man” to be kind.
Hello Greg
Nice to speak to you again after our battle on the 10th shot position!
That’s what I tried to explain to Roger, showing him that the smartphone had moved about ten meters between shots 1-3 and 4-8, and that for the latter, it was aligned with the rear facade of the AGR 6 building, which could have changed the echoes.
But I gave up after a while because he didn’t seem to understand, or pretended not to!
