That’s my assumption, too. His dashcam came on at 18:00, just 6 minutes after Lenz sent that radio message. His vehicle was in motion when it started, too.
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I thought myself it might be over the top. Originally I planned to do it in like 10 slides, but there was just too much going on. So I ended up making one slide for every relevant movement I found video or photo evidence for, whenever possible from different perspectives.
Just for you (and everybody else who is interested of course) I extracted a pdf file that has a much better quality and therefore you can see more of the details when zooming in.
Protocol of the last 3.5 minutes.pdf (6.8 MB)
You’re doing good with your 4 in 1 slides, that’s much more compact so keep it this way.
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He was probably patroling around the area before and picked up something is going on.
Did you by chance already name tag the Trooper, who was in the other car beside the water tower?
He has a very unique chin and jawbone structure.
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I admire your objectivity, I kind of get the feeling from where you are coming from…. 
Thanks, the PDF file will definitely come in handier for me when I get around to my deep dive on Crooks’ time on the roof. You saved me a lot of time scrolling through body cams placing the LEO’s.
In short, no. My recognition tool was my way of preparing for my later analyses of events. It was never my intent to identify everybody, just make it easier to do so if and when I needed to. It started by trying to identify the two unknowns from the Beaver County ABC interview and snowballed from there. Now I’m trying to reason through identifying the SS team and plan to add other key SS and FBI players to the deck, those not listed in the Detail Plan. So, the snowball is still on a downhill run. I’ll likely hit a tree and stop when I find myself looking for Acting Director Rowe’s tailor. 
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that’s what happened when the number of my slides just started to expand
No pressure from my side, but I think this specific Trooper might be worth identifying because he was really in the scene from the beginning when they spoted him on the roof.
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What I’m also super curious about: who are the two guys on the east side I pointed out in the first few slides. Could this be the “Cops” Nicol saw comin out door 13 after he spotted Crooks with a backpack?
One of them came in from north and turned around just before he would have seen Crooks. The other one came in from south and was literally walking underneath Crooks when he walked along the buildings.
Would it be reasonable that Nicol saw 2 non-uniformed cops and these are this 2 guys?
camo shorts
white shorts
Just before the shots rang out they were hangig around at the corner close to door 21 and somehow it looks like they just waited there to “heroically” jump in when the shooting is over. Wasn’t it these 2 guys “checking” the windows south AGR6?
No way they didn’t realise the people pointing out Crooks on the roof (remember Greg Smith’s BBC interview, actually caught him in the Jon Malis video).
Also found pictures that show Sgt. Tom Vensel must have seen the shooter on the roof almost a minute before. He then turns around and moves back towards the parking lot just to return to the same spot 30sec after the kill shot when everything is over.
Super suspicious behaviour all along. Crooks was surounded and seen from all sides but still was able to release 8 shots. It’s just unbelievable and a disgrace!
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I don’t disagree, and I saved it for my analysis purposes, but I want to get back to what I like doing best, analyzing. I’ve got to draw the line somewhere in my slide deck, or your record is likely to get broken. 
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I wouldn’t mind passing on that cup 
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I don’t think so. I think the official story is that Nicol came out as two cars pulled up, one marked, one unmarked, and he yelled to them. AFAIK these two guys, whoever they are (CERT/SERT/SRT) seemed to be on foot in the crowd.
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And where does the official story say those cars were parked? Asking for a friend. 
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These CERT/SERT/SRT guys need to be interrogated (a long time ago!). As well as whoever enlisted/liaised with them.
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The two are State Police as later they change their T shirts to ones with State Police printed on them when entering Building 6. Identifying these two is the priority!!!
What ever happened on the day they were in on it / accomplices’ with Greg Nicols. The video footage don’t lie
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What do you mean they change their shirts? Are you talking about how they put their badges on display around their necks?
The official story (AAR - After Action report) is, at least partially, trash and debunked long ago.
As in the AAR the marked and unmarked cars are positioned on the north east side of the AGR complex, far away from Nicols.
From the AAR:
“1 Marked vehicle and unmarked vehicle pull in together”
=> this obviously refers to the 2 cars (1 Butler Township - Tyler Collins, 1 State Trooper - unknown) that came in from beside the water tower at 6:09:00pm. An unmarked car (driven by David Tedeski) came in from the north at 6:09:20pm. If Nicol came out as you suggest, he would have been filmed doing so by dashcam M500-010482.
The AAR also says that “Nicol goes downstairs of building 1”. The problem here is, building 1 in the AAR is AGR6 what is a 1-storey building. Either that building has a cellar and Nicol went down there, or more likely they misspelled and it is in building 2 he went downstairs (that’s where Nicol was assigned). Then out of door 13 to check about Crooks who wasn’t there anymore. Just then the two Cops pulled up.
And this was my question, could this Cops be the two non-uniformed guys, (maybe Nicol knew them). It never said they pulled up with a car, people maybe just assuming so.
Nicol then instruct this Cops to go search for Crooks, one goes northwards around the AGR complex and the other one southwards. My thought now was, that this 2 Cops who Nicol instructed were captured on bodycam at around 6:08pm on the east side of the AGR complex. And because to me the guys in the bodycam footage didn’t look like uniformed Cops I guessed it could have been Camo Shorts and White Shorts guy.
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No; on the cruiser cam when they both re-enter (6:30 ish) and exit building 6 (just before 7.00) they now have T shirts on with STATE POLICE in yellow print on them.
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I guess you talk about the dashcam in front of door 9/AGR6.
Before I end up searching, could you provide a timestamp when this T-Shirt change is to see?
I absolutely agree that these 2 guys should be squeezed by now, but the reality is probably more like 
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I’m wondering how this photo was taken - before any cop was on the roof but after the killshot. Something was up in the air.
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Or was this much later in the day? There are no shadows = twilight? The gun has also already been separated from the shooter. Odd, however, that no one is on the roof. Did they leave the scene like this all night until the coroner arrived in the morning?
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