Pretty sure that’s not him. We’re looking for a very senior Special Agent who has the lead over a team of 60 people, not a Staff Assistant.
“Sean Curran, the detail leader and top boss of Trump’s regular 60-member protective team”
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Just try to swap the game roles.
Imagine you have to arrange the shooting, while you must take care of SYA.
And actually what is we seeing. They send not really significant notifications, not exact locations, mixed with other people (e.g. bike owner). Then at the last minutes they alert troopers/patrolers.
Ok, I know, it is not enough for court. Lt. Columbo told me.
(#https://youtu.be/-M2FjAbfAX4?t=271)
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True.
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Realistically, I can’t tell or even offer a best guess at where lines are actually drawn between anyone anymore. An agency is what? really, a name and a title, a paycheck, a networking circle? I also honestly do not think it’s actually him, more just a funny coincidence of common name and commonality of a noteworthy agency in this discussion, but who knows?
And alas there are a very many coincidences we have littering this entire investigation, coupled with a very distinct lack of direct evidence.
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I like this at the very least as a thought experiment to this “Cat and Mouse Game” we see played out here, but I still cannot see it playing out like it did without at least some involvement, or perhaps even a large involvement, from an outside party. This assassination attempt exudes way too much for a lone, young gunman.
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The Secret Service’s Failure to Halt a Tragedy at a Trump Rally - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
An interesting article (Or at least I thought it was until their stupid popup solicitation obscured it completely. FFS.)
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Keep it coming with the Columbo references, I’m loving this!
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Yeah, I agree, it probably is not him. And I’m sure any photos of him, especially with documented proof of name, are going to be very hard to find. Though I wonder if perhaps he, or anyone else in this regiment of protective detail, has appeared before protecting Trump. It may be worth watching back some of his appearances, either nearby date or nearby location, and seeing if there are any potentially reoccurring characters.
I have been wondering why FPV suicide drones saying Hi to political leaders in the West haven’t become a thing yet … what are the odds that Trump becomes patient zero in the next weeks?
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I thought of doing that if I couldn’t determine who was on Trump’s protective detail and who wasn’t, in the advance party. Fortunately I didn’t have to. Given the number of personnel (60), I wonder how many rallies (plus the convention) you would have to go through to catch someone on detail at a given point. And then, you might not get a glimpse of the whole detail. When Trump’s not getting shot at they stay out of sight somewhat.
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Ok @cmartenson @vegaspatriot @sorey
I believe I have found a missing officer. The one that had body cam, had car cam on all day, was boosted on roof, etc. But I also am thinking they may have taken his pic off the internet to protect him from angry people. I do not want to “out” him and have him or family get hurt. Not sure how to handle this. I have a few pics and reasons for my discovery.
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or pagers…
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I’m sure you’ve seen the disclaimer on my recognition tool. My intent is not to infer blame or fault, but just to be able to recognize individuals as I (we) examine video footage and do other research. Here are a few of my thoughts on the matter:
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I will not post phone numbers even though some of the local agencies make them available for their officers on their department website. I also ran across a document where the Pennsylvania State Police made numbers publicly available for numerous LEO’s in the state that took a particular training course.
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Any images we have found were posted online, thus they are publicly available. I am not sharing my Recognition Tool publicly, per se, and my disclaimer states they are for investigation purposes only.
Those are my thoughts on the matter.
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That makes sense with the pictures. But what about the possibility of him being the one w/cam/car cam/boosted on roof before and after? I realize that is just speculation.
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I believe we have his name and I don’t recall if we also have his photo, because I wasn’t going to expand my tool to every LEO at the rally, just those in command roles and on various teams. So, I wasn’t saving them as they were posted.
Personally, I view the vast majority of the LEO’s as likely being patriots who were doing their civic duty to the best of their abilities. I am not out to find blame or fault in my analysis, I just let the evidence paint the picture for me. I see a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking in this forum with a mindset of finding fault wherever it can be speculated. Just because the efforts to find Crooks looked incompetent as a whole, doesn’t mean it was.
Due to a significant delay in communicating information about the “suspicious person,” local LEO officers had very little time and conflicting and confusing information to go on. That’s what I gleaned from part of my analysis, as seen below.
As for the local cop who drove onto the site the minute he got word of the suspicious person, from where he was patrolling, and got eyes on Crooks on the roof, I applaud his efforts because he wasn’t even covering the rally. Anyways, the timeline above says a lot
Edit: I forgot to mention that the Butler County DA said those officers were not even getting paid, they were volunteering their time. I find that hard to imagine, but perhaps for some departments that was true.
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As well your thoughts and wariness are warranted, and discretion of disclosure lies with you, this hasn’t been a plot to get whoever is ‘responsible’, more a practice in recreating a scene from scattered pieces, trying like hell to figure out what actually happened that day. Any information to assist this process is welcome and very much appreciated.
Aside, I am very curious to know which actor this is! I have a few guesses, but still am not yet certain.
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Ok here is what I have: I tried to put it together but is messy without good software like I used to do. I believe this is Jon (Jonathan) Schaffner.
The fam photos are from wife’s facebook but doesn’t use “Schaffner” on it.
The large picture is a combined ButlerTownship and Zelop. activity.
He is an obvious light redhead. Hair, brows and in the early driving car cam his arms are like a light redhead or blond. He has no tats. Family pictures don’t prove that and they are 2018. In car cam he has a black watch. Most of the guys have them but in the body cam on his way the guy who boosted him the first time has white on his watch. In the photo of the combined policemen, his name seems long. Couldn’t get a clear on it, though.
Maybe I am all wet but I think he fits.
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I know that, just don’t necessarily trust a couple of others. Most of us work together and it’s great.
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That’s not the name we currently have for that bodycam. @soyer (jk) @sorey is the one who figured out the names we have for those, other than Pearson.
Oh, I have a new hyperlinked PDF version of the bodycam slide.
Bodycam Videos.pdf (185.0 KB)
Edit: Besides, Schaffner was on the CAT #1 team, so he couldn’t be the “boosted up” cop.
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OK. Well Collins is a redhead. So he went up because he was a detective.
So you think the pics etc I found could be Shaffner then?
Without knowing the wife’s FB account, I doubt I could recreate your path to get there. I’ve had the group photo of Butler Twp for a while, but can’t read the names.
If you look up Katharine Schaffner you will see Katharine Jeanette. Schaffner underneath. You have to hit the photos button at the very top to get all the photos. Not a lot. There is another pic of him but it distorted his head shape. Window behind shows Butler Commons. I got the name from White pages for Jonathan Schaffner. On white pages he also has an email at butlertwp.org.
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try this
The Secret Service’s Failure to Halt a Tragedy at a Trump Rally - The New York Times (archive.ph)
I think the inner circle of the detail most close to Trump should be kind of a core team. So it might well be that some of them could be spotted in other events too. But that would still doesnt help with documented proof of name.
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Thank you, I knew this was still out there somewhere. 
So here I’m assuming this to be an advance team gathering on the exact roof of what I can only assume to AGR6? Even if the building is wrong in the grand scheme of things, I count somewhere around 11 heads in this photo alone…
Edit: Looks awful slopey to me, might be danGerous. 