So It's Back To First Principles

you are exactly right:

from that report, we can deduce that the counter sniper team leader on the southern barn was the one who is seen making telephone calls all the time…
D. King is the one closest to the bleachers, the team leader is the one further away from the bleachers…

a couple examples of things that have been worded very carefully and how they can be interpreted:

  • “prior to his team member firing his weapon, he distinctly heard 3 shots”. this implies that the barn snipers did not fire any rounds before the first 3 shots at Trump had been fired. this also implies that his team member fired a shot after the 3 rounds were fired. this can have been shot 9 or 10, or even any other bullet, e.g., a subsonic suppressed round…
  • “he then heard his ‘USSS counter sniper’ partner tell him that he got him”. note that I put single quotes around ‘USSS counter sniper’, as the SWAT officer who took shot 9 can be seen as a partner of the ‘USSS counter sniper’ team(s)…
    It is perfectly possible that the SWAT officer had a live radio/walkietalkie with the barn snipers, and if the barn snipers saw where the bullet struck, they could give “wind call” finetuning directions for a follow-up shot…
    It is equally possible that two shots were fired simultaneously: the 9th bullet by the SWAT officer and another round by one of the barn snipers, and that the sniper who fired from the barn assumed that he had hit crooks, while he was actually hit by the SWAT officer, and the barn sniper next to him gave feedback to adjust his scope for a follow-up shot…
  • what follows after “the USSS counter sniper team leader continued ‘from there I heard his round go off… I still could not find what he was shooting at, so I got off my gun to see what angle he was looking at’” does not make sense whatsoever: how could the USSS counter sniper team leader have given his barn sniper buddy a wind call to adjust his follow-up shot if he “could not find what he was shooting at”, but a few sentences earlier, he stated that the wind adjustments at 200 yards are minimal…
  • the counter sniper team leader confirms that the USSS snipers fired only 1 shot at crooks. that should be bullet 10, but this is not consistent with the above claim that his team member fired his weapon after he/they had heard 3 shots.
    nothing in this statement refers to the 5 rapid-fire shots, which is highly suspicious if you would ask, me…
  • the last thing that is very interesting is the phrasing about permissions: “the USSS counter snipers do not need permission to fire AT A SHOOTER”. this implies that they can return fire, but they MUST wait until at least 1 bullet is fired by the target they would be shooting at

my two cents…

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I was just poking fun. You guys are doing exceptional work for the chicken feed you’ve been fed. I’m about ready to release my report and it’s not nearly as deep as some of the discoveries here. I finally heard from Mike Kelly today and I have one more interview to conduct and am about to wrap up. This last interview is key but they keep postponing it. Hopefully, it happens tonight.

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exactly. we know that the grouping of the first 3 rounds was relatively small: Trump’s ear, the railing of the right bleachers near David Dutch, and the JCB hydraulic lift/telehandler. David Dutch has allegedly 2 bullet wounds, but it could also be 1 bullet wound and 1 ricochet/shrapnel wound…

the subsequent rounds hit Corey Comperatore and James Copenhaver (I do not know in which order), and if crooks fired these rounds, he may have swung even more to his upper left in the direction of the Hercules 2 team…

Chris Martenson mentioned in one of his videos that Corey Comperatore was likely hit by bullet 6 as there was a part of the audio signature missing at Trump’s microphone, indicating that that bullet did not reach this microphone as it hit Corey Comperatore…

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I still believe that the sniper closest to Trump returned a subsonic round immediately after the first shots were fired towards Trump.

instead of “flinching” I think he dealt with the recoil after he returned fire immediately after the first shot was fired, but as he did not have a clear line of sight, this bullet must have ended up in the tree that blocked their sight/line of fire…

from my point of view, the sniper on his right was in the prone position because this gave him a better view on the roof of AGR building 6, and I think he fired a subsonic round a couple of seconds later, which caused him to absorb the recoil too, and this is also what we see in the footage…

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If they could not see Crooks, because the tree blocked their view.
How was Crooks able to see them?

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yes, it is a remarkable set of shots fired and victims (hardware and human):

  • bullet 1 grazed Trump’s ear and scratched the top of the right bleachers. we know this based on video evidence that has been shown many times now
  • bullet 2 did not leave any clear video evidence, but we know that David Dutch suffered 2 wounds. as he walked autonomously from the bleachers, it seems to be very unlikely that he got shot twice with a full blown bullet, so let’s give him the benefit of the doubt, and 1 bullet wound and 1 ricochet. the ricochet could be from bullet 1 (cfr. the scratched railing) or bullet 2; the bullet wound could be from bullet 2 or 3
  • we know that the hydraulic system of the JCB lift/telehandler was struck by bullet 3 based on the footage I discovered a couple of days ago
  • James Copenhaver was likely hit by bullets 4, 5, 7 or 8
  • Corey Comperatore was likely killed by bullet 6
  • crooks may have been dazzled by bullet 9 that originated from the SWAT officer who walked from the tents towards AGR building 6
  • crooks got the kill shot by means of bullet 10, but he did not die on the spot, as we know that it seemed to be necessary that he was handcuffed by the first responders on the roof

I think bullet 10 was shot by the Washington Co sniper from the grandstands across the green, or by the same SWAT officer who fired bullet 9, but the reports claim that bullet 10 was fired by the south barn sniper who was not the counter sniper team leader, and this leads to D. King as the alleged shooter of the 10th bullet if you believe the reports…

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if crooks was firing shots in the 5 rapid-fire volley, his rifle may have swung from the Trump direction in a left-upwards direction, hitting James Copenhaver, who was more the rightmost of the known bullet catchers, Corey Comperatore was a little to the left from that point of view, and then come the northern barn snipers…

if that volley was fired from crooks’ position, he was not aiming at anyone in particular, so he did not need a line of sight to be able to shoot between them…

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The audio from the Stage Podium Mic doesn’t square with the #9 and #10 from the same shooter.

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the 10th bullet may still have come from the grandstands… I had forgotten that counter sniper…
will update the post above to include this one too…

I thought the same, doesn’t sound at all like him.

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Jim Brown, the guy in the middle of the picture, told me that the guy in the white shirt is Ron Costanza. It seems like somehow we’re getting confused about his forearm tattoo.

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I get the feeling they want to talk about the “mere seconds” from being scoped to shooting, as opposed to the “eighty entire seconds” from when Hercules 1 turned northward for reasons which remain unclear because they purposefully didn’t interview the most important guy.

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Great first hand source, well done :+1:

Just to clarify, so he’s confirming this is Ron Costanza?

or is he only confirming the white shirt guy on the left in the same photo with Jim Brown is Ron Costanza?

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I know for a fact that 5 audience members were shot and I believe there’s a 6th. I’m still trying to prove the last one.

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I think @greg_n ruled this location out in his audio analysis.

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Only white shirt. I figured it was better to ask him about that one since he knew for sure.

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if there are 5 audience members that got injured + Trump + 1 bullet in between the two snipers on the northern barn, 7 of the 8 bullets have been accounted for… not bad :wink:

This would be quite some breaking news after they were always saying it’s (beside Trump) Corey, David and James that have been hit in the audience.
I hope you’ll find out about the 6th :crossed_fingers:

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Well…now I have egg on my face. I have to redact my last post. I just made contact with the supposed 6th gunshot victim and before the story reached me it got twisted up a bit.

The “supposed” 6th gunshot victim injured her arm when her husband threw her down on the bleachers and jumped on top of her to shield her. My initial source told me the woman was shot. Ugh!!! She did seek medical attention.

Hard to believe a rumor got twisted. You can’t imagine my disappointment when she told me she didn’t get shot. Lol!!

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how unfortunate, indeed! :slight_smile: