So It's Back To First Principles

According to a CBS Pittsburgh video, her event was also scheduled to begin at 5:00pm, and I think that this team being either at or on standby for her event is a fair assumption. I hadn’t thought of that, but it would make sense to me.

First Lady Jill Biden and former President Donald Trump in Pittsburgh this weekend (youtube.com)

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Also, I think I have Bill Wilson here:



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Thanks. We had Wilson, but not with a post with his name in it, so that helps.

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Yeah, I do see that now :expressionless: not sure why I thought he was still unidentified…

No the dr. was a man. Said it was a woman that got hit on her arm.

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Health issues. Way behind. Anything I can help with?

Glad you’re feeling better. Now that you mention it, in a post above @redranamber found 2 more response teams that showed up after the shooting. Both are in Allegheny County, with one being North Hills SRT in Ross Township, and the other being the City of McKeesport in the Boro of Dravosburg. Allegheny County has a SWAT team that looks like the City of McKeesport’s but I don’t think they are one and the same as their Bearcats have different insignias on the doors. Anyways, I tried to find some clean images of their shoulder patches, but failed. Maybe you will have better luck.

Other than that, there is nothing else other than looking for the missing photos for Butler and Beaver Counties. @sorey may have found some more on a few of those in this post, which I haven’t had time to dig into.

Thanks for asking, BTW!

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By the way…

Fico was reportedly shot due to his opposition to military aid to Ukraine, and has blamed the assassination attempt on rhetoric of Slovakia’s opposition parties.

Notably, Fico stated that the assassination attempt on Trump was “scripted like through a copybook,” asserting that it was copying the attempt on his own life. Fico also stated that “they [political opponents of Trump] are trying to shut Trump up, and when they don’t succeed, they piss the public off so much that some loser picks up a gun.

I really never before paid attention to that lamp, but it is of crucial importance and corroborates that the unblurred images show crooks very near his nightly resting place!

the picture above shows the blurred out image from the video you shared (Crooks%20take%20first%20shot_Scooper.mp4), and the lamp with the blue top is blurred out as well. this means that the location where he died is the location where the shell casings were allegedly ejected from his rifle…

that mp4-file shows the following picture at 4 seconds into the video:


and this is the exact position where crooks was found and pictured dead!

the video “crooks take(s) first shot” and https://youtu.be/lk9dN06ilVE (“Trump Video Original Unedited”) are clearly edited…
it does not suffice to call a video unedited to not having been edited…
I think the term “unedited” refers more to their failed attempt (if any) to un-edit the edited version :slight_smile:

so, what I think happened is that the video editors kept the audio track, but they removed certain video frames or repeated a couple of frames several times such that the audio would start matching a certain frame of their interest

this is what happened to the mp4 file to make it look like crooks fired the first rounds from that position on that roof…

so, what we see and hear in the different videos does not reflect what actually happened!

example:

  • at 4s in the mp4-video, crooks is alive and holds his rifle uncomfortably far from his shoulder (and nose)
  • at 6s in the video, the first shot is fired
  • at 7s, the second shot is fired and
  • at 7.5s only a muffled thud is heard which is clearly distinct from the first two rounds.

in the youtube footage which claims to have been “unedited”, the first 3 shots are time-spaced evenly, and in the mp4 footage, the 3rd shot is very muffled and comes earlier…

so, when someone suggests that the mp4-footage shows the first shot at 5-6 seconds into the video, we know where crooks was located on the roof at that particular moment, namely the position where he was found dead, and that blue topped lamp corroborates this!

I do not have a high definition/resolution bird view photo of crooks on the roof when he was dead, but we can deduce from the following that he died 2 rifle lengths down from the ridge line…

the rifle is 1 yd long, which means crooks was 2 yd from the ridge line when the shell casings were allegedly ejected.

we can estimate the height of the separators between each roof lane and the height of the ridge cap based on the width of a lane (which is 2 ft) and the following image:

the yellow rectangles are UNDERestimates of the actual height of the separators and the ridge cap due to perspective…

previously, I said that these separators were about 15 cm high as I heard this being mentioned in a commentator’s video, but if we look at the ratios of these rectangles, the height of the separator is more likely close to 7-7.5cm, and the ridge cap is about 5.5cm high, making the distance between the roof and the top of the ridge cap about 0.41 ft = 4.94 in = 12.55 cm.

these dimensions seem to be very plausible given the height of the shoes of the different roof walkers…

let’s assume that the distance between the roof and the top of the ridge cap is 5 inches = 12.7 cm.

based on https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264024487_Analysis_of_Human_Head_Shapes_in_the_United_States, the average size of an adult US male head is about 17.6 cm:

if we bring all of this together, we can transpose crooks from the position where he died closer to the wall from which the video was shot and keep all the aspect ratio’s, which gives this:

his shoulder is 2 rifle lengths from the ridge cap, and he is 6 ft 4 in = 1.93m…

a close up:

the horizontal yellow line is reasonably horizontal compared to the vertical wall panels

after having revisited various videos of the first shots fired, I have come to the observation that it is highly unlikely that crooks moved from one lane to another between the photo/footage of Mike DiFrischia and the position where he died, simply because of a lack of time as everything happened in only a few seconds, and the lack of blood traces in other roof lanes…

if he shot any rounds, it is very likely that he either sat upright, leanded on his elbows, kneeled or had moved close to the roof top, but within the same lane as where he died…

so, if we transpose the DiFrischia photo over the “crooks near the edge foto”, we get this:

it is IMPOSSIBLE that crooks fired any rounds from this position, as the purple arrow shows the line of fire that goes through the roof at least twice!

even if he shouldered his rifle at that location, with the scope at eye height, it would still be IMPOSSIBLE to shoot without going through the roof cap!

he would have been able to fire over the roof top, but only if he moved at least 1 rifle length closer to the roof top:

or even closer to the ridge cap:

also if he sat up right or in a kneeling position, he would have been able to shoot over the roof line from the position where he died:

note that the images have been used as-is. I only resized and cropped them and kept a 1:1 aspect ratio with the size of the rifle, as that is the only thing we have reliable dimensions for…

the bottom line is this:

  • crooks died 2 rifle lengths from the roof top
  • the top of the ridge cap is about 5 inches (12.7 cm) from the surface of the roof
  • it is impossible that crooks fired any rounds from the position from where he was seen in Mike DiFrischia’s video
  • if crooks fired any rounds with his rifle, he must have been sitting upright, with his elbows on the roof or in a kneeling position, or he must have crawled up at least 1 rifle length closer to the ridge cap, otherwise, he would have damaged the roof or the ridge cap!
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There’s a line from a Westworld episode where the top two robotics engineers of the company are talking… Bernard mentions Occam’s razor, I believe, and then Anthony Hopkins’ character goes:
“William of Occam was a 13th century monk. He can’t help us now, Bernard. He would have us burned at the stake.” Dr. Robert Ford, Westworld

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Funny, I was just watching this cam at just around this timestamp when you posted this.

So far, I know of 4 of these 5 actors on the roof: Collins (camera), Shaffer, Sulerud, and Kopas. Have we figured out yet who the remaining one is?

I think the blogger explains Occam’s (Ockam’s) Razor it quite well.

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A Seeker’s Thoughts: Occam’s (Ockham’s) Razor (aseekersthoughts.com)

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@sorey I don’t recommend using anything downloaded from that Scooper website. To the best of my knowledge, the first mention of this word on this forum was from Roger, on Aug27th, when he decided to accuse TMZ of having doctored the video on their website to add recoil, after it was realized that the PP dropbox video (probably the scooper one) had a terrible file that seemed altered, not to mention a lower resolution. Then Roger somehow magically appeared with that Scooper website, saying that one was the real deal. Ridiculous.

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I guess:

3 of them are already up, before the 4th comes Collins.

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Except when Collins gets up there, there is already 4 on the roof. Collins makes 5 on top. This one that is to the right, plus the three to the left on AGR6.

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Nice, great catch!

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@sorey Oh, and the videos downloaded from Scooper and TMZ ARE in fact different. There are many frames throughout the video that are different. Some frames exist in one video but not on the other, for instance (if you download them both and put them on video editing software on different tracks and reduce the opacity of the one on the top layer, it becomes very apparent. I talked about this on this post. Do access the the X link on that post, it’s a video of me sliding the opacity on the top layer.

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This is the alleged Dr. (Edit: He is a Doctor See Post 3526)
In my eyes he’s not really trustworthy. In the interview he said he helped Corey/carrying out Corey. Beside disturbing this Lady and walking a few steps behind the guys who really recovered Corey (mainly PSP Troopers) I didn’t see any of that he claimed he did in the viedo. Therefore I wouldn’t believe him about the woman story as well.
Yes he was close to the scene (as part of the audience in front of the bleachers, not in the bleachers) but didn’t do anything beside being close to the scene.
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same shirt logo as the one he was wearing in the interview
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Makes sense, also. The North Hills SRT is a group formed by many townships, but that truck does have ROSS written on it.

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