Officially he died at 18:25, but we all know he was shot dead on the roof a long time before this. Thanks for the PDF link, i obtained a copy of it some time ago from another source.
This is the glaring problem here on the 2nd floor: why are there three open windows on the south side but only two named snipers (Nichol & Murcko)? Why was the 5th window open if there was no sniper there? Isn’t it against all security protocol to have an open “unattended” window facing the protectee? The snipers on the 2nd floor did have access to this window because at 18:19 someone (Murcko?) sticks his head out of this window.
Who else was on the 2nd floor who has yet to be named? The silence around this critical window - closest to Crooks - is deafening!
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At least it’s easy to hum along to! 
FYI = I updated my timeline tables in the post above. I started to try and ID “S” but it quickly became apparent it wasn’t a simple task even with the HSGAC Report, so I’ll chase him down when I get back to that analysis. For now, here are some educated guesses.
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Sorry, my mistake, i have checked the images again, Looks like it is a lot more difficult than i thought to identify them.
I also would assume it is protocol for such kind of locations for snipers to only have an occupied window open. So if there were 4 windows open but only 2 snipers around (and 1 of them running through the buildings - without his equipment), it sounds like a clear breach of protocol to me.
Do you have information about this guy?
it turns out it is not really easy to guesstimate that volume…
the roof lane he died in was a bit longer than 12m, let’s say his wound was 10m from the gutter.
if the blood trail was 3cm wide and 1.5mm thick, that would lead to a volume of 450 cubic cm, which is 450 ml…
if the trail was 1mm thick, it would be 300 ml…
some blood ended up in the gutter, was absorbed and coagulated in his clothes, hair, on his skin…
if we look at a couple of the widths of these blood trails, it was really intense:
the biggest rectangle corresponds with 2 ft, which is the width of the lane as reference…
the smallest rectangle has a blood trail width of 5 cm = 2.12 inches
the wider rectangle overlapping the big rectangle corresponds with a trail of 3.19 inches = 8.1 cm
the width and thickness of this blood trail is not uniformly spread, but if it were 4 cm wide and 1.5mm thick, it would lead to 600 ml of blood that coagulated on that roof…
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Note the most important thing here is that Olayer is in USSS Comand Center.
Local Butler Police is heard over radio that “There is someone on the roof” in Dashcam M05 at aporoximately 18:08:2X. LEO is conversing with PSP officer who can be seen mic’d up, presumeably calling in that there is someone on the roof.
USSS Command from this point further would have been receiving communications from this PSP officer in near real time from this point further from PSP radio coms without Lenz calling.
Should we file FOIA/RTK to get the videos from the PSP?
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I’ve filed a few as part of my job before, it’s not difficult. I just don’t have the time myself right. Ow with the various things I’ve got going.
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I find myself muddling through this document, a comparison of 3 years of Butler County budget actuals, the current budget they are working from, and the proposed budget for the next year (being 2024).
2024-County-of-Butler-Adopted-Budget (butlercountypa.gov)
Admittedly I have no idea what I’m doing looking at a county budget, still certain things kinda stick out to me, and I would love any insight into what I’m seeing. Here’s an example of something I’m not fully understanding:
(Page 62)
(Page 65)
Also, what exactly does capital equipment encompass? Does body worn equipment fall into this category? What is the implication to it falling under the capital reserve fund?
(Pg 79)
Hey Sorey
I placed the 2 PSP undercover guys on a overhead view
Just minutes before shots are fired, their checking out the line of sight to the podium, walking right to left to be directly under crooks shots.
We need to time line the exact time via the music playing
These cant be the 2 PSP undercover dudes who were stationed at Sheetz? (holding Crooks hand) and recalled to the AGR complex or are they?.
Is black beard on the phone saying “is a go” To Nicols?
He certainly not saying don’t put Trump on stage>
Why would the PSP have 2 PSP undercover dudes stationed at Sheetz?,
unless they knew a person of interest (Crooks) was stationed at that very location.
Stuff the Cruiser – Butler Eagle
Make sure you spell it with a capital G, it’s Geremy.
Anyways, that’s Christian Renaud in the middle for a front facing name face match.
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Can we maybe come to the conclusion that we have more than one CAT2 team, one Beaver County and one Washington Regional maybe? Based on their Area of Operations map, they seem to be located separately.
These are the only vehicles in the lot in the area where these teams appear from. Our Can-Am High Defender UTV driven by Zaliponi, QRF. And then we have this Chevy. I have to assume WRSWAT rolls up in this Chevy???
And speaking of the AoO map, whom do we have in this location? Murcko? It is pretty clearly a location for a sniper. And if we have one BuC, two BeC, and one BeC goes home early, that leaves us with one of each. I’m starting to get the feeling that they weren’t both actually in the AGR, and that Nicol was in that building alone.
Blasko, who know now is also a sniper team assistant leader, by his own testimony, says he was “at Brady Paul” and working his way over to AGR, where he parked at the water tower. (why would you park at the water tower if it was called in that he was on the ROOOF of AGR?) (also, I wonder whom the full team leader is, if he is only the assistant)
Clearly even as sniper team assistant leader he was not being utilized in a sniper role. But also, I don’t doubt that as such he would be involved in planning and responsible for accurate execution. His demeanor during his testimony makes me curious as to what he isn’t telling.
/*Edit:/ Also, I’m not sure where you found the photo of Ben Huminsky in your Recognition Tools, or as to why he is listed as unconfirmed, but I think his LinkedIn verifies he is in fact WRSWAT.
Ben Huminsky | LinkedIn
Great find! I’m trying to polish up Rev 9 before releasing, so I’ll add him in. Edit: I’ll use this photo of him instead of the one we already have.
The BuC Detail document clearly describes 2 CAT Teams, CAT 1 being Butler County personnel, and CAT 2 being both Beaver and Washington County personnel. They were stationed where the map shows Beaver ESU, which is also where SQ200 was parked, and SQ200 made it’s way to the AGR east lot. So, if you’re just concerned about how CAT 2 got to AGR, look there. I see no need to create a third team that is not in the official documents.
That would be Wagner, who is on the BuC ESU page due to being part of that ESU team.
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I didn’t have a source for Huminsky, hence the unconfirmed. I’ll update him now. Thanks!
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The SQ200 image in the east AGR lot is on the Tactical Vehicles page. In this post I provided a sighting by sighting timeline of both the AV400and SQ200. You will see where it was parked near the BeC ESU post, and see it move toward the FOP, then near the south bleachers, then on its way toAGR.
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Thank you, I still confuse myself with so many actors roles and areas, and vehicles too! It strikes me as odd for CAT1 to be a 7 man team, two of which being in a sniper role, and then the CAT2 team consists of 15, 3 snipers (possibly 4 as Huminsky is trained as a sniper also) of which 1 left, so then 14 members 2 (maybe 3) snipers. Double the manpower, and your slides are split between the two counties already as well. It really isn’t necessary to split the team in the slides, more an observation that it seems it already is split they just both fall under CAT2 label. It just seems worth at least recognizing to me is all.
Yes, thank you, I do have your tactical vehicle slides! Have you come across a hit on SQ400 yet?
Also, here do you happen to mean to put AV400 instead of SQ400, as I believe that to be the same tent from the previous photo you have listed as AV400?
If this is true, I think we catch a nice glimpse of it from Gianvito as he walks by! *Edit: * I realized I was mistaking one for the other, and that the one next to the yellow boom crane like you’ve pointed out is SQ200. Still, gives us some more angles of it.
And here between SQ200 and the amberlamp, we find none other than our grey-suited Tim Burke lookalike, talking on the phone explaining to someone the shitmess he’s gotten everyone into, standing about 10 feet from our Brian Pardini in the blue shirt and lt tan pants.
And then another thing I was trying to get at with two separate CAT2 teams, not that it has to be documented this way, but on site at AGR we have response from what seems to be QRF and CAT2, and while not all members appear from the area of those vehicles, but the CAT2 members responding here seem to be limited to the WRSWAT group, and we know QRF to be riding in the UTV, SQ200 (and BeC) doesn’t arrive for quite some time, so can we conclude from that the WRSWAT have ridden over in that Chevy SUV?
They certainly knew who Greg was before the shooting took place. Take a look here and the post that one references. What I believe is that Crooks deceived them at some point.
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Thanks for catching the likely copy ad paste error. I usually work too fast and have multiple projects open at once, so I can get a little sloppy.
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