So It's Back To First Principles

How common is it to shoot at somebody at a rally?
My assumption is he got “substituted” by this guy. Not sure though who drove the UTV and how they handled it with the key.

I don’t think he was on the roof bc there we’d probably see him in some of the livestreams. To my knowledge there’s also no proof he was in the stands.

Somebody can be seen in the western grandstands in the full RSBN livestream (there’s a post somewhere). Not on the roof, in the stands. Should be Ben Shaffer (watch his testimony with Dan Bongino and Eric Price) but if Wagner also was there or not is unknown.
There’s also this picture.
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@brian60221 @daniloraf @gfgftt5d0q @prayingpatriot @RedRanAmber @sorey @kincses-zsolt @rough_country_gypsy @rob-banks

All,

Hopefully my Recognition Tools are accurate enough now. I’ve started uploading it and other tools into my folder(s) on @brian60221’s shared files website. / (barf.bz) (public/public if you need to log in)

From now on I’ll just be uploading new revisions there. I’m working on getting some of my “Sidebar Analyses” polished up to post as well. Those are mostly deep dives I’ve done to support my “Timeline Analyses,” among other reasons.

As always, thanks for all the efforts and feedback!

Enjoy.

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Touche, good point!

They key was a hiccup in my thoughts. I mean you would not want to leave it in the ignition, probably don’t want duplicate keys on each member, a proximity key push button style system or something may have been used, I don’t really know. Maybe I’ll look into specs on Bearcats and other tac vehicles when I get a chance…

I thought so too. It doesn’t make sense to me to have a counter sniper asset in a location that can’t provide any benefit here. And we happen to see counter snipers handicapped across the board…

What’s that shot from? :hushed:

It was first released by Guided on his YT channel. He did a previous video where his brother described seeing an ESU team driving to the west grandstand. I didn’t save the link, and YT won’t show it in my search anymore. Hopefully his channel didn’t get taken down on him.

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Wouldn’t that be a funny coincidence?! :sweat_smile:

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Correction
Got caught out on the camera lens’s perspective distortion and on ground perspective distortion.
On correction, counting fence posts


results in a relocation to the west

Time Stamp is 18:03:45

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What’s the time stamp of them being here? Sorry I feel like I’m missing something here.

Time Stamp is 18:03:45
So these aren’t the dudes Nicol claims to have met at 18:03

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Thanks. I was having trouble - maybe my Adobe is just too old. Or me LOL.
I had the designation to that pic and was having trouble with getting it posted with error messages so it got deleted in the changes. I used to be a lot better at this stuff. I believe it is on the photo designation pcjsicillia

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Sweet, thanks for sharing :+1:
It’s a wide angle dashcam of M500-010482 (Tyler Collins car)
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3rd row, 3rd from left (1,8 GB)

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I remember that first video. According to his brother there were two in the bleachers. I probably posted it. Need to look for it.

Here it is. The first one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpF3TTflITg

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Great work, thanks for taking the effort :clap: :clap: :clap:

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The timestamp matches with the other dashcam video (so also 1s behind time)

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I’ve already adressed it in my Law Enforcement (Bodycam) Videos slide in my revised tools, which I posted earlier in the shared files. In case you missed my earlier post. Now I have to go back and see if I copied a list of users with your user name misspelled.

Edit: It was correct,

Not sure but he might be an option. Good catch :+1:

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It does look like him. It sounds like the context of the video (Gianvito following him?) might give us enough to associate him with it.

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I got it here, it was posted on Jul14

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That’s not correct. He aired Jul27 WHO REALLY SHOT THE SHOOTER? NOT WHO YOU THINK.

I got it here, it was posted on Jul14. Not sure if there was an earlier release.

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:wink:

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What does actually this TMX 1 stand for?

Your pics agree with my estimated position
TMZ video shot 1 position TMX=typo
Gregs pointed out my error its TMZ video “He’s got a gun” video shot 1 position