So It's Back To First Principles

[sherlock-holmes]

@sorey

@sherlock-holmes

Why would the PSP have 2 PSP undercover dudes stationed at Sheetz?

Could be bc he was parked at Sheetz at one point before the rally (I think AP had an article but I’m sure @vegaspatriot knows) and they send them to see if he comes back?

Problem with this theory is they were staking out Sheetz;
before Crooks was identified as a ‘person of interest’
or even knew he had been at Sheetz at that time.
By his tracking cell phone signal position data after the shooting they found out he was at Sheetz, FBI/USSS didn’t have his cell Number until well after he was terminated and had hacked into his phone.

There is no legitimate valid reason why the PSP have 2 PSP undercover dudes stationed at Sheetz; unless they had foreknowledge and were shadowing Crooks or his handlers?

[redranamber]

@vegaspatriot

Thanks for catching the likely copy ad paste error. I usually work too fast and have multiple projects open at once, so I can get a little sloppy.

Of all the words that come to mind about the work you do, sloppy is not even remotely close! Thank you for all the effort you’ve put into all of this, it is truly impressive! Mistakes are bound to happen and considering the size and nature of the data being processed I would say likely.

A small note as I believe you’re still working on your next revision and I’m not sure if anyone noted this yet (very possible, sorry), but we’ve got a Sulerud cam photo for Shaffer here:

Here’s a few quick shots of Shaffer (still from Gianvito’s cam) in case you haven’t gotten to this yet:

@sorey

I don’t think Zaliponi drove the UTV bc he was still moving around at the fence/bleachers/barn area at the time the UTV came into the eastern AGR parking. I also couldn’t find him in the QRF group of 6.

I find that interesting, so then even as he was listed as the driver of said vehicle, he was not driving it over to the response site. I wonder how common it is for a ‘designated’ driver to not only not drive their assigned vehicle but to give up their vehicle completely. Plus the mysteriously elusive drivers Alyssa Mathews and Ray McDonald.

@sorey

You can see them get out at one point in Paul Kuss’ bodycam

I forgot Kuss was right there with bodycam to show us this same area, was looking through Wittinger’s 117 footage, and comparing with some of Blasko’s too (but he’s all over the place)! Thank you! I’ll be looking back to see what/who I can help identify from this soon.

@sorey

If there really was a sniper stationed, it was Matt Wagner

I like the way you phrased that. We have actual evidence of USSS CS units, some evidence of Nicol, Murcko, Woods activities at AGR, but where was Wagner in this E Grandstands position? Was he on a roof, surveying and providing CS duties? Also leads me to wonder of the positioning of the WRSWAT CS Ben Shaffer. Was he on a roof? Or were these other CS units also placed inside the buildings designated?

@sorey

Can’t remember, did he say this in his testimony?

Blasko is introduced around 13:30 of the Congressional task force hearing, interestingly along with him being sniper team assistant leader, he is said to have been stationed with a Secret Service agent where the motorcar(motorcade?) would arrive. And I have to wonder who he was stationed with.
About 38:20 the question is directed to Blasko to describe the moments leading up to the shooting, to which he claims he was “at Brady Paul” and “working his way” towards the shooter, after which he claims to have parked beneath the water tower. And then we have his bodycam footage showing him approaching on foot to AGR, from the same direction of the water tower.

@vegaspatriot

I should add that Allegheny SWAT doesn’t wear shoulder patches, or if they do [see guy on right’s left shoulder] they are not circular like McKeesport’s patches.

Working on finding out more about this. I’m not positive even still that North Hills and McKeesport have separate agencies for their SWAT/ESU?SRT teams, perhaps just a few separate localities within the county? I find articles in McKeesport where Allegheny County SWAT are called in. I can’t rule out that they are separate units, but I really don’t think I can confirm it either.

[redranamber]

And as well, I have seen some of these, but I don’t think I’ve seen them all. And then also is the issue that you don’t always recall all the images seen, thank you for posting these! You may not feel helpful, but you are indeed. Who is the gentleman in your second photo post standing next to the bearcat?

Also, if you use VegasPatriot’s research tools you can navigate easily to full videos including the one I believe you are asking about.
Dashcam Dropbox

[vegaspatriot]

@redranamber

A small note as I believe you’re still working on your next revision and I’m not sure if anyone noted this yet (very possible, sorry), but we’ve got a Sulerud cam photo for Shaffer here:

Good catch! You are absolutely correct, and I will make the correction post haste because I’m wanting to release the next revision. I also am just finishing up my revision to the Elantra analysis and looking forward to posting it. I took the color comparison we were debating before to a new level.

[vegaspatriot]

Wait a minute. I recall someone sharing an ESU uniform with Shaffer on it on the roof, and thinking it was Ben Shaffer. That’s why I used the image I have for Matthew was correct. I’ll have to try and find that now,

[redranamber]

@vegaspatriot

I took the color comparison we were debating before to a new level.

Fantastic! I love your analyses!

@vegaspatriot

Wait a minute. I recall someone sharing an ESU uniform with Shaffer on it on the roof, and thinking it was Ben Shaffer. That’s why I used the image I have for Matthew was correct. I’ll have to try and find that now,

I think I can help! From Collin’s video we get four others initially on the roof, securing the site. It looks like Sulerud and Shaffer swap positions during the cuffing/patdown, with Shaffer being one who stands up outfitted in black.

[vegaspatriot]

I found the post with Shaffer’s name shown. I was recalling it as being camo, not black.

The Abandonment Of Posts In The Overwatch Building Is Difficult To Accept

Now that you mention it I had to double check myself. The Shaffer on the roof is probably not Ben but likely Matthew Shaffer. He’s an Officer in the Cecil Township Police and could also be a member of the Washington Regional SWAT. Sidenote: The Lieutenant at Cecil, Guy Kuzak, is the Commander of Washington Regional SWAT. [image] [image] Could only find an image of Matthew Shaffer from 2017, give it another 7 years and that could well be the one on the roof in my opinion. [image]

[redranamber]

As far as Gianvito’s videos go, we start off following this guy (left). Anyone else think he resembles O’Sche on the right?

[vegaspatriot]

I just noticed that a new dash or body camera was added to the Dropbox. Haven’t figured out which one yet. I’m assuming the one on the bottom. Now I have another slide to update. Ugh!

[redranamber]

Unfortunately I don’t think we have new video, I think there’s a duplicate here:

[vegaspatriot]

Yes, I just caught that. Now I am upset for having to change my slide.

[brian60221]

Wow, that’s weird.

I’m downloading the newer one to my archive for safe-keeping. I’ll see if anything is different about it.

[brian60221]

Those files are not identical. They’re very close in size, but not even identical size. I guess I don’t expect to see anything amazing, but this is odd.

[vegaspatriot]

I just looked to compare the length. They both have 2 hours if I’m looking at it right. I don’t recall how long that video was before, but if they added more length to it that would explain the change. But there was apparently some mixup in the upload process.

[brian60221]

This stuff is not a dupe at all!!! It’s a new video!!!
Edit: what is going on here? Is it a fisheye version of the previous one somehow?

[vegaspatriot]

What difference are you seeing? It looks like one camera is closer or zoomed in than the other, but still the same vehicle parked in front of Door 9. They are the same dashcam number and have the same start time, just a different perspective or range of view.

[brian60221]

This “1WA” suffix on the file must mean something like “wide angle”.

[vegaspatriot]

Sounds logical. I don’t have the time spent reviewing that video like you and others have. Do you think the wider angle might bring something in view that wasn’t in view with the regular angle?

[vegaspatriot]

I’m also wondering if we can expect more wide angle versions to be added.

[brian60221]

I’ll put in a request with Lt. Pearson. Edit: done.