Well, I’ll be damned! In his congressional forum interview he did mention a teammate, possibly a spotter, but either way that person likely stayed at Shaffer’s nest.
I wonder if there was possibly another Shaffer in the ESU group.
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I like this idea but I have questions…
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Are there any countersnipers at Crooks 1 or 2 o’clock position at 400 yards out?
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What if the sniper that we believe took the 9th shot instead took the tenth shot (when he thrust his arm into the air?)
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The ninth shot coming in from 400 yards wouldn’t register as hot on Trump’s mic, but if the ground sniper took the tenth shot would it register hot as @cmartenson claims it does? That countersniper is obviously closer but the shot doesn’t come over the top of the mic.
Pure speculation but what if the ninth shot (from 400 yards) takes out the stock from the 1 or 2 o’clock position and our ground sniper delivers the head shot? It could be the reason why his head wasn’t blown off with a 30 caliber and also answer the 400-yard shot comment that keeps being tossed out. Unfortunately, everything would have to line up with the sound data, and that keeps tripping us up. Can one of the sound guys debunk this hypothesis?
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I don’t know what I’m looking at but I’ve seen gunshot wounds before and I’m not convinced that’s one.
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Don’t know, but Crooks’ 1 or 2 o’clock could have possibly been almost any direction to the south or south west depending on his movements. He was known to have faced S and SW.
As for a counter sniper there were teams on the roof near the retaining pond, of course Hercules South, and LEOs on the ground.
If Crooks was dead and bled out it might look like a GSW where there’s no bleeding.
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I have not seen gunshot wounds, on humans anyways, so I have no experience to go by. It just looks like one to me, and others, and I’ve yet to hear a reasonable explanation of what else it would be. If I hear one, I’ll likely be convinced it wasn’t one.
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Now that you mention it I had to double check myself.
The Shaffer on the roof is probably not Ben but likely Matthew Shaffer. He’s an Officer in the Cecil Township Police and could also be a member of the Washington Regional SWAT. Sidenote: The Lieutenant at Cecil, Guy Kuzak, is the Commander of Washington Regional SWAT.
Could only find an image of Matthew Shaffer from 2017, give it another 7 years and that could well be the one on the roof in my opinion.
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Great find, thanks.
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Well done! I can sleep easier tonight knowing Ben didn’t leave his sniper nest abandoned. 
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And I couldn’t sleep not knowing if I mistakenly put Ben on the roof.
Seems we both can go to bed now 
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Without a new thread, I guess this is a good place for today’s video by Chris.
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http://cecil-police.com/contact.html
[Officer Matthew Shaffer](mailto :mshaffer@cecil-police.com)
724.743.0940 Ext. 220
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Since Matthew and Ben Shaffer are both from Washington County, any chance they are related? Also, I wonder if this is who Ben was referring to in his congressional forum testimony.
Ben Shaffer: “We also were running a secondary channel that was our local Washington Regional SWAT team channel.” (Source: Congressional Forum Testimony, 10:50 Mark)
Actually, Washington County had 6 ESU members at the event.
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It seems likely they’re brothers. The same kind of thing seemed to be happening with the Mikulans and some others.
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Just to try and keep things from getting confused.
I do not believe Washington County has a ESU team. I think they use the SWAT name instead.
Beaver and Butler Counties have ESU teams.
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I’m looking for the 400-yard shot coming in from Crooks right side at 1 to 3 o’clock. I don’t think the pond area is far enough away.
It looks very suspect to me. One conspiracy at a time. I’m still looking for the 2nd shooter and the 400-yard countersniper shot. I believe there’s truth in the 400-yard shot. I just can’t find it yet.
I really like that you are focusing on this because the lack of damage to Crooks makes no sense. Nor do the initial 400 yard statements or the one in a million shot statements.
Good luck on the hunt!!
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What’s worrisome to me is that when images or videos don’t fit narratives, we dig and search for days to make them try and fit how and where we want. Then something suspect like this is revealed and it’s down another rabbit hole. Who’s to say this image isn’t manipulated?
I’m not convinced one way or the other at this point, nor do I care. It doesn’t look like any bullet wound I’ve ever seen, though. (For whatever that’s worth?) I’m still trying to figure out the basic info we know as factual and piece that properly into the timeline puzzle. I’m still convinced a 400-yard countershot came in from somewhere.
Can one of the sound experts help me with this one way or the other? I don’t want to waste time looking into this if there’s no possibility the ninth and tenth shots can’t be reversed. I’m looking to find out if the ground sniper’s shot can come in hot over Trump’s mic as the tenth shot. Thanks!
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That’s exactly what I spend my time doing, and way too much of it to be honest. The possible leg shot is just curiosity. As for the 400 yard counters hot, you are aware that Ben Shaffer, grandstand counter-sniper, said during his congressional forum testimony that he did not take a shot and couldn’t even see Crooks, right? The latter part struck me most, since the photo of his rifle looked like he did have a line of site to the spot on the AGR 6 roof where Crooks was.
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You and me both, @vegaspatriot. I stay abreast of your timelines and thank you for them. I heard the Washington County guy’s statement, but I’m not sure it’s factual. At least from the pictures we’ve seen. What about across the Evans City Road? Wasn’t a team set up there as well? I don’t have the computer skills that most on here have. Can someone put a circle around Crook’s position that represents a 400-yard radius?
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