So It's Back To First Principles

That would make sense being after the motorcade left, but did the crowd disperse that quickly?

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Here’s another huge one taken at 18:01
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Camera manufacturer Apple
Camera model iPhone SE (3rd generation)
Exposure time 1/1,185 sec (0.00084388185654008)
F-number f/1.8
ISO speed rating 32
Date and time of data generation 18:01, 13 July 2024
Lens focal length 3.99 mm
Latitude 40° 51′ 33.7″ N
Longitude 79° 59′ 52.2″ W
Altitude 1,016.337 meters above sea level
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That can’t be 18:01, the motorcade isn’t there. Where are these timestamps coming from?

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Wasn’t there radio connection? Why did she walk to those people personally?

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I cannot see people at fence line and around the western trees.
fence bystanders

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Are there those 3 cars in the east parking lot?
parking lot

And where is the big flag over the stage?
where is the big flag

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Still cannot see people at fence line.

The three cars are there.

Where is Crooks’ car?

There is something in the western parking lot.

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No, the USSS did not have a Local LE radio or vice versa, remember. Sgt. Lenz would have been the one to give CAT 1 the order to go support the hospital, but if you can’t communicate with him, the next best thing is to walk over and talk with the CAT team itself. They could radio Lenz to pass on the request.

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Are these typos or did the Congressional Task Force interview Nicol over the course of 3 days? Interesting, to say the least.

Edit: The 3rd transcript listed is “Butler” not “Beaver” ESU Witness 3. That is the QRF officer who claimed to have seen Crooks. Still, Nicol has two different interview dates, the Sept. 12, 2024 must be a typo.

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Trump Force 1 landed in Pittsburgh at 4:25 pm. I’m trying to find the fly by on the RSBN full day footage to get the time.

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Just caught this little detail in your Recognition Tools(Rev.11), Mikulan is part of CAT #1 not #2. Not a huge detail, but I know how you are for accuracy! :wink:
Screenshot 2024-10-23 100733
Screenshot 2024-10-23 100401

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I noticed that, too. One of the reasons I’m looking to get the fly by time.

Crooks arrives in Butler at 3:45 pm. Trump Force 1 lands at 4:25 pm and Crooks is spotted at Vendor Alley at 4:26 pm. He likely went to the magnometers from there. His car not being seen in the fly by image means his car was still parked at Sheetz like the AP reported. Crooks is then seen walking onto the AGR grounds at ~5:04 pm.

It’s only a 15 minute walk from the rally entrance to Heetz, so Crooks had time to walk to Sheetz and drive his car to the AGR main entrance.

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Good catch. Thanks. My assumption was that C2 meant CAT 2.

image

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You got me confused there, @sgt-raven. The fly by was at the October 5th rally. :joy: After I realized that, it dawned on me that the fly by was on the opposite side of the rally site from the photos. I suppose those photos could still have been taken from Trump Force 1, however.

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I do think the letter designations have some common denomination, though it’s not perfectly clear. The C designation I think does have more to do with a command role. R appears to be a designation for TEMS/Medic units (Nico Soler 10R1, Jon Jurysta 10R65, and Ray McDonald [with the only hit I know of for a possible association has background in fire/ems] 10R69). These callsign designations are probably strictly a Butler ESU thing, I would assume Beaver ESU and WRSWAT callsigns follow different patterns of designation.

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March 20, 2024 - article with photo of Ben Shaffer, member of Pymatuning Township Police


Pymatuning police recognized by MADD | News | sharonherald.com
(Article hidden behind a paywall, screenshot captured using Reader Mode)

Oct. 28, 2019 - article with Trinity Area School District Police Officer Ben Shaffer, K-9 handler responsible for K-9 Hiller, who:

won first place in the novice division of the U.S. Police Canine Association Region 6 Trials in Smyrna, Del.




Trinity K9 wins regional competition - Observer-Reporter



Ben Shaffer | LinkedIn

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That guy is clearly not the Ben Shaffer of WRSWAT

This guy could be, but why aren’t those jobs listed in his LinkedIn Experience?

The LinkedIn profile is clearly the Ben Shaffer from the rally, and helps explain why during his Congressional Forum testimony it sounded like he was a consultant. He’s a Trainer. Good find! I will add that to the detailed ID page for him in the Recognition tools.

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I was just giving a possibility for who took the picture. We know they have done fly by at times. I wasn’t trying to confuse anyone.

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Crooks Returns to the Property and Deploys a Drone

Crooks returned to Butler and arrived at the Butler Farm Show property at about 1545.[64] At approximately 1550, Crooks flew a drone over the site for 11 minutes.[65] The drone’s flight path would have positioned the drone’s cameras to show Crooks a view of the stage and podium approximately 200 yards away.

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This picture is obviously not oct. 5th, there aren’t those big trucks in front of AGR.

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