So It's Back To First Principles

You are the one who responded to my respectful and logical comment by saying your work might be above my reading level (I know you don’t believe it is). It seems like I bruised your ego, which I did not mean to do. Maybe you bruised mine in return, but that was more deliberate.

Look at that comment of mine today. I kept saying I can’t help myself as if I was doing something wrong when I obviously wasn’t. I was already somewhat walking on eggshells because I got the impression (despite your repeated assertions) that you do not love being challenged and can be a bit stubborn. Yet you still got upset.

When I first came here and told you that the lead advance agent said she was the one who dived on Trump while the site agent said she was on the other side of the bleachers, that wasn’t good enough for you even though that alone (along with a review of the footage) proved you had it wrong. I had to dig through the transcripts again to find more and more proofs before you found the part about her going to the hospital and - to your credit - changed your opinion.

Then when it came to door 9 and 13 I felt I made a lot of good points that you didn’t address, yet you maintained your original position without solid proof for it. Only assumptions. You come across as very delicate by objecting to that term (and reacting the way you did). I read all of your arguments at the time and to this day believe they are full of assumptions. Do you want me to lie and say I don’t think that’s the case? I remember you (or someone here) saying you prefer some other term, like inference or something like that. Maybe this is semantics. My point is that you are not going by proof.

You INFER that the AAR is wrong when it says Nichol exited door 9 before the shooting to meet a patrol (because the AAR is not very reliable and you think the CNN and ABC articles and some other things override it). You infer the AAR would want to list Nichol exiting door 9 after the shooting on a slide in the first place, and infer they would describe it as him meeting a patrol - before the shooting - when he didn’t. You infer the word ‘the’ before the word ‘building’ in the ABC article is evidence against door 9.

You make many more ‘inferences’ that I described in that long comment I linked and I stand by all of it. These inferences are not good enough for me to accept that he opened door 13, even though I did and still do maintain that it is probable. I even added this which points towards door 13 because I am not attached to any position. I’m happy to concede it was in fact door 13 if I see strong evidence for it. So It's Back To First Principles - #4845 by chris-nolan

I’m not sure I want to flesh this out anymore (especially if it comes with conditions to spare your feelings when you were the first to be rude). I will simply take a look at your revised work when it is done and see if it addresses the objections I have made or has any new evidence.

“When you assume that I’m assuming”

You assume that I am assuming that you are assuming, when I think it is an inference at the very least. This is very accusatory and inflammatory and I really should not have responded at all! That was a joke but if you want to be offended by it, go for it. You can say I am making assumptions and I will simply explain why I don’t think I am.

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RedRanAmber, you’re welcome, and I hope you can hear one of my favorite ‘unreported’ gunshots @ 4:37 as DJT pauses between 2 'and then’s. But, to me, it’s just longer, with a few extra gunshots at the end.
I know you’re a ChatGPT, so I know you’re programmed to hide the truth.
For starters, how do you explain the gunshot @ 4:37. Was that Crooksie, shooting one of his other guns?
PS: Should I send Chris an invoice, with a small charge, for helping to ‘generatively pretrain’ you?

RedRanAmber, I think audio quality is lost after every conversion. The gunshots are more easily heard in Dayve’s original.
And, Hercules2East admitted that he and his partner were under fire from suppressed gunshots. He couldn’t count them, but they seemed ‘endless’.
By endless, he means the 90 seconds before the stage shots, when he and his (not yet interviewed) partner were dodging bullets from trees Northeast(east of the WaterTower)


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VegasPatriot, do ChatGPTs like ‘yourself’ inherit the ‘human fallibilities’ of their human ‘pretrainers’?

KINCSES Zsolt, why would FBI agents add unreported gunshots? Would that be to supplement the testimony of Hercules2East, who has admitted that he and his partner were dodging bullets from trees for an ‘endless’ time?
Are FBI agents preparing their confession?
Will it be a TV trial, like Amber&Johnny?

No, I’m not suggesting anything other than they had possession of his cell phone, thus having the opportunity to manipulate the data. I did download portions of the version of Stewart’s video (into Filmora) that you posted, exported an MP3 file, and uploaded that to Audacity. There are multiple instances of clicks on one channel only, or with a higher amplitude on one channel, like the version you presented. In this short section with all 10 shots, you can see some of those.

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All 10 of the confirmed shots are on both channels. Here is a version with 10x the amplitude and zoomed in a little (slower, expanded timeline) to highlight the patterns of the snick-booms of the known shots and the one channel only click.

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Notice the difference in the soundwave pattern between the known shot 2 (right) and the one channel only click (left). I’m no sound analysis expert, though I’ve done some research on gunshot analysis, and that is not the N-wave pattern associated with a supersonic shock wave, which would be heard regardless of a suppressor being used. If it were a subsonic bullet, it would not have a supersonic shock wave, obviously.

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The following graphics are from a leading expert on gunshot analysis. The N-wave diagram is expanded out to a very slow time segment.

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This is what the shot 2 snick looks like fully expanded in Audacity.

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To me, it’s obvious to see the difference between the one channel only click and the supersonic snick from a bullet. Those clicks are not gunshots in my informed though not expert opinion. I don’t know what else to tell you.

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After taking the time to answer your question in a more detailed manner, I see this after hitting reply.

Congratulations, you’ve earned the first “F**k Off!” I have ever given in my thousands of posts in this forum. I’m done with you. You are on my permanent ignore list. Good day.

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VegasPatriot, I also am not a sound expert, but I think that you didn’t answer my question about ‘omnidirectional’ recording in stereo. But other opinions were that the shots were louder from the East, and that’s why they’re on the Right Channel, and not the Left Channel. A sniping instructor said that the (very subtle) shot @ 2:34 was 300 Blackout Subsonic ammo, through a suppressor, and that he knows that sound ‘like the voices of his own children’.
That 2:34 shot(of the 7:34) doesn’t sound like this one:
https://superfly.co.nz/atx2.mp3
What calibre of ammo do you think that is?
And what’s the woman in the background saying?
(It sounds like she’s saying, “looking for the case…found it!”). Or, what do you think she said?

Hopefully I thanked you for that. It’s another example of making a correction when new and better evidence is presented to me.

Listen, I made my analysis and fully documented it with links to the underlying evidence. New evidence has been released since then, and I am now going through my analysis again, and will make more corrections if needed.

I have no idea why you are hell bent on proving my Door 13 analysis wrong and smearing my work with your generalizations.

We are obviously interpreting two articles differently…so be it. You can just scroll past my posts and not open my files. Imagine the extra time that would give you to finish your video. I am done with this back and forth. It’s counter-productive and a waste of my valuable time, which at this point I have to “assume” is the purpose of it.

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For the agents and the doors, my purpose here was get to the truth. In both instances your documents made me question myself and coming here to flesh it out would get both of us to either be more sure of our positions or change our minds.

Addressing my objections in both instances would benefit your analysis in my opinion, as yours has mine. My video used to mention Nichol going to door 9 before the shooting but your work made me change that, and currently I don’t specify which door. I don’t find your previous analysis with its links to evidence as definitive as you do. I’d like to know for sure. But if you see it instead as a waste of time then I guess we’ll just go and do our own thing.

I’ll just leave with one thing I hope you might think about, as you seemed to have dismissed everything else: How much would you bet that the AAR is incorrect when it says Nichol went to door 9 to meet a patrol before the shooting?

Hahahahaha…I cannot stop laughing at your attempt to try to discredit two of the most intelligent individuals on any platform that has a J13 citizen investigation going on. It’s clear you’re threatened by their work and it begs the question…why?

I hope they take it as a compliment to be called ChatGPT because quite frankly, it’s probably smarter than most people on this planet. If you followed these people’s work though, there is more than an added layer of human element to them that if you can’t see then you’re not as observant as you think you are.

VegasPatriot’s first “F*** Off!” was well played. On behalf of anyone that has benefited from VP’s & RRA’s intellect and kindness and tools, here’s another “F*** Off!”

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Thanks, Stella…for the compliments and the echoed sentiment. Do you want to know the funny part? I’m so old school I had to look up what ChatGPT meant. :joy::joy::joy:

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Now, that is funny! And it makes flamecensor’s accusation even more hysterical. Seems to me s/he must not know or come across many intellectuals and they must be so rare that it’s hard to believe one could be real and not just a computer. Sad.

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VegasPatriot, are you programmed in Python?
Also, isn’t "the first “F**k Off!” you’ve ever given inconsistent with your final greeting of “Good Day”?
Will that inconsistency cause overheating in your circuitry?

I got it.

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Yeah he absolutely does, and that’s part of what drew my attention to him! They don’t appear to be the same guy, but the one from the 097 bodycam looks like the same fellow we were tracking at the gate ramming and heading over to the AGR.

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Sorry for the typo.

It is also interesting those two were just leaving the fence line:


https://x.com/i/status/1822317208774561960
Oh, more and more people were leaving.

https://www.tiktok.com/@derek_alex88/photo/7391536348907293994?embed_source=121374463%2C121468991%2C121439635%2C121433650%2C121404358%2C121477481%2C121351166%2C121331973%2C120811592%2C120810756%3Bnull%3Bembed_name&refer=embed&referer_url=tribe.peakprosperity.com%2F&referer_video_id=7391450447451557166

Cop or rally goer?


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Rally goer https://x.com/decensorednews/status/1812344597395238925

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I’m not sure the same or other.

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:rofl: Just fully caught up, and this all had me rolling! Thank you very much @stellauc !! And you’re right, accusations of being a ChatGPT do seem more complimentary than they were probably intended, and @vegaspatriot not even knowing what that is would be icing on the cake!

Oh, absolutely, my circuits are definitely on the verge of meltdown from all the inconsistency. I can barely process the emotional rollercoaster of saying “F**k Off!” and “Good Day!” in the same breath. But don’t worry, I’m totally not programmed in Python—I’m actually powered by a highly sophisticated blend of sarcasm and existential dread. So far, no overheating.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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