“…some time…” as in approximately 10 minutes? 
It’s such an insignificant detail in the overall scheme of things, I have no concern regarding when he arrived and geared up…unless of course he was on the west side of AGR at some point between Crooks returning to the site and him climbing on the roof. 
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RedRanAmber, do you have a dog?
If they’re like the LEOs I know, they keep their tac gear in the trunk while on duty. So if it is not a pre-planed call out, they can throw their plate carrier over the regular uniform.
IIRC, during the 1997 North Hollywood shootout, one of the LAPD SWAT team members was working out at the gym when the call came down. He went out in his gym clothes with his web gear over them.
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(Let me tell you an example. Teachers say the abstract thinking is difficult. But there are counter examples. We test the samples several times around some heat treatment. The manager had an abstract idea to put them into a magazine. Done. People don’t use it, they cannot learn some non-abstract steps to do, assign sample numbers to positions, start te batch etc.)
Despite Greg had opened a sertain door, journalist think of it as an abstract door - I feel. Sometimes it is easier thinking abstract way, not saying wich door, what direction, what time.
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In this case, I’ll respectfully disagree. The journalists clearly have a specific door in mind, having interviewed the person who went to that door, but would not be expected to specify the door number given the fact that it’s a news article and not an investigative report.
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Great quality zooms and pictures here. Thank you! Can I ask a favor? Would you mind posting a full, clear picture (mainly full face/head) of the undercover in that Volcom tshirt? Thank you very much in advance.
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Who is the person in the passenger seat in the white police vehicle?
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Mhm, 117 is Wittlinger, and yes that’s his car.
| Cam Ref# | Cam# | Wearer |
|---|---|---|
| 01 | 122104 | Pearson |
| 02 | 122104 | Pearson |
| 03 | 122109 | Venzel |
| 04 | 122097 | -~Unidentified~- |
| 05 | 122111 | Kuss |
| 06 | 122111 | Kuss |
| 07 | M500-016197, driver 122117 Wittlinger | Dashcam, Wittlinger |
| 08 | 122125 | Blasko |
| 09 | 122110 | Collins |
| 10 | M500-010482, driver 122111 Collins | Dashcam, Collins |
| 10W | M500-010482-WA, driver 122111 Collins | Dashcam -Wide Angle-, Collins |
| 11 | 122117 | Wittlinger |
| 12 | 122117 | Wittlinger |
| 13 | Gianvito cam 1 | Gianvito |
| 14 | Gianvito cam 2 | Gianvito |
| 15 | Gianvito cam 3 | Gianvito |
Personally, no right now I do not, though I am curious as to where you are going with this.
In reference to my Newman post, I know I listed his K9 as being named Jimi, and I was pretty sure I had come across that pair while looking things up, but I’ve realized Newman was not associated with K9 Jimi but actually K9 Nitro. My mistake.
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(BuC Sheriffs recog)
Looking into this, I suspect this to be the flag cape fellow. I’m not 100% yet, but I’m not sure of any of the other witnesses wearing a white tshirt like that.
I’ve grabbed a few zoom shots of our undercovers, let me see if I can grab a decent shot of this.
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Happy Thanksgiving to all of my fellow Americans in the thread!
The flag shirt guy is the Motorcycle owner (Kurt) that was interviewed by Gary Melton, in case anyone didn’t know.
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One of camo shorts:
Happy Thanksgiving right back at you! And to all others celebrating today! 
Thank you, I knew he was related to something else here I just couldn’t remember how or to what.
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Another BeC-ESU patch, Alpha Unit:
This is Gianvito, and considering BeC, that would possibly make his callsign a 4Alpha variety? I have Gianvito callsigns as possibly either 4A2 or 4A18, either matches the Alpha designation.
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Thank you very much!!!
Interesting…
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