Straight Talk with G. Edward Griffin: What's Coming Next Isn't Pretty

I know I’ve made this point many times before, but I guess it bears repeating in the face of your repeated judgment above.  It’s not about whether a particular theory or observation can be proven right or wrong, its about whether or not one can act on the information to grow as an individual. In our world of information-overload, filtering out the unproductive information is critical to maintaining a viable mindset that can react to unfolding events effectively and efficiently. This process is less a function of belief-centric perception (though I’m only human), and more of a function of focusing on what truly matters to myself and my family.

With respect…Jeff

 

Stan -

I know you didn’t ask me, but here is a good example of how some people respond to solid evidence and facts.

https://peakprosperity.com/forum/what-world-are-they-spraying/39897?page=0#comments

 

I don’t believe the fact that it’s a constant while other things diminish reduces it’s function as money.  I don’t disagree that it will buy less of those goods.  However, those goods will have more value.  I think that makes gold even better because it’s constant, it makes the relative value of other goods apparent and allows for proper utilization. 

 

No Rick, 

That’s not what I said, so don’t put words in my mouth.  Unlike you, I don’t find the need to be the site’s security nor will I take the time to go through oodles of info to prove a point…again, unlike you.  

I stand by my statement, that many on this site will not see the forest through the trees.  I’m to the point that I don’t care whether the brainwashed ever awaken.  I have, that’s all that matters.  

Adios!

Reminds me of the Story of Stuff project. There are a number of videos dealing with different areas.

 

The story of stuff

 

Electronics

 

Cosmetics

 

Bottled Water
http://storyofstuff.org/bottledwater/ 

 

 

 

Did he doubt or did he try?  Answers aplenty in the bye and bye.  Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills, One man gathers what another man spills.

Some come to laugh their past away,  some come to make it just one more day.  Whichever way your pleasure tends, if you plant ice you’re gonna harvest wind.

The storyteller makes no choice, soon you will not hear his voice, his job is to shed light, and not to master

Once in a while, you get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if you look at it right.

My time coming, anyday, don’t worry bout me, no.  It’s gonna be just like they say, them voices tell me so.  Seems so long I felt this way and time sure passin’ slow.  My time coming, anyday, don’t worry about me, no.  Don’t worry bout me, no no, don’t worry bout me, no.  And I’m in no hurry, no no no, I know where to go.

Faring thee well now.  Let your life proceed by its own design.  Nothing to tell now.  Let the words be yours, I’m done with mine.

…and we bid you goodnight

Can’t comment on the other videos here, but “The Story of Stuff” has been debunked as dangerous propaganda here: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/30932/

murfster

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Can’t comment on the other videos here, but “The Story of Stuff” has been debunked as dangerous propaganda here: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/article…  [/quote]

Well, that certainly lends an air of credibility.  Undecided

Doug

 
I watched (and liked)  the Story of Stuff and I tried to get through the Glenn Beck sponsored critique, and all I can say is don’t waste your time with any of the Beck material. The Story of Stuff was a good piece,  the critique was the most juvenile, specious set of claims I think I have ever seen.

Once again, we learn that a very large group of people will stop at nothing to convince the rest of us that there is no energy problem, no reason for concern or change of any kind, and that anyone who might suggest that our collective behavior and lifestyle is unsustainable is some kind of whacko environmentalist.

“ How can there be any shortage of natural resources,  the Earth is 4,000 miles deep and we have only mined 15 miles”
Really, in part one that is one of the main arguments. What a disgrace. Dangerous propoganda indeed.

Folks,
If I may weigh in for a moment, please be aware of the ad-hominem fallacy:

  • Person A makes claim X.
  • There is something objectionable about person A.
  • Therefore, claim X is wrong.
I discovered TCFJI by GEG many years ago and it was one of the key works that put me on the path of autodidactism.  I read it.  Then read it again.   I then found the audio presentation GEG recorded back in 1994 when he presented the core themes of TCFJI (you can hear a sample here or I have found it by way of torrent files).

I don’t agree with every piece of work or opinion GEG has, but I think his work w.r.t Jekyll Island is outstanding.  It is clear GEG’s work is heavily influenced by Eustace Mullin’s work on the Fed’s origins…some have said to the point of plagarism, but does it matter?

Most of us stand on the shoulder of giants who in turn stand on the shoulders of other giants.  These people built their bridges with their bare hands and we have the privilege of walking over it.   If we are dedicated, skilled, and persistant enough, we may contribute a truss or two.

Reading TCFJI was a “red pill” moment for me.  I still remember the hair on the back of my neck standing up, and my hands shaking at some points in the book back in the ancient days of 2004.  I cross-referenced.  I bought other books.  Audiobooks.  Podcasts.  Along the way I discovered teachings of Lysander Spooner, Mises, Paul, Hoppe, Mencken, Rothbard, the Tannehills, Molyneux, Iserbyt, Gatto, Veinotte, Nock, Block, so many others…and…Chris Martenson.

Where were these people all my life?!?!  I think the only time my education was interrupted was when I was in school.  SurprisedSealedCool

Just please don’t feel you have discredit GEG’s work.  Learn from it.  Agree with some points.  Disagree with others.  Let’s just make sure we adhere to philisophic discourse with open curiosity, reason, logic, and empirical evidence.  After all, we don’t like it when we attempt to educate others about the message of CM and are shouted down, snickered at, or have the glazed donut face looking at you when you are trying to explain.  Chris dealt with that too prior to using the Intertubes as a vehicle to get the message across and build this community and prove free markets work.  Why? 

Chris is not like some tenured professor who advocates free markets while relying on State violence to obtain his salary.   He puts his message out there in the hopes that people will be willing to trade a few sheckles for his work.  Value for value.  That’s why I am a paying member.

If I sounded preachy, I really don’t mean to be.  Most of us would agree with 95% of what the other has to say.  Let’s not harp on the 5% of where we don’t.   There are so few of us and we are spread so thin.

I think TPTB are nervous.  I have noticed a trend where when I flip on the “news”, read a "news"paper, or come into contact with the voice of the Matrix, it seems to be getting more shrill to me.  Is it because I am more aware of the fishbowl they present to me, or is it because our Tax Farmers are getting louder as they know we are beginning to see the Farm?  Either way, it doesn’t matter.  No army can stop an idea whose time has come.

It’s an amazing age we live in.

 

Yes!    Eustace Mullins…I’m happy to see someone give credit to one of the original authentic researchers.Smile

AMEN, brother!  (or, uh:  sister, whichever )

 

Yes.  Either that, or the gaps in their reportage get larger and larger (omitting the real stories).  Example:  WCBS-880 AM in NYC does biz updates at 25 & 55 past the hour.  On weekdays – while the markets are open – past coverage usually included 1.  quotes of where the markets were at that point in the trading day, then 2.  usually a biz-interest story [quick blurb about new iPhone feature, Google tussling w/China, whatever], and then 3.  quotes from the NYMEX on crude oil price followed by COMEX gold price.

About 2-3 weeks ago, they stopped quoting the gold price.  Just flat-out stopped.  Except of course during the recent drop from the 1400s down to the 1330-ish level.  That was news, I guess.  The recent retracement up to today’s 1400-ish price has gone unreported. 

I wonder who else noticed?

Viva – Sager

Yeah, I noticed the same thing here in San Diego too. No more gold reporting, it just disappeared from the AM dial.

AM dial???  Some readers will have to think about what that means.

FWIW, they aren’t talking about gold on the Grateful Dead channel on Sirius/XM satellite radio either. 

And I only get that one channel…

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Yeah, I noticed the same thing here in San Diego too. No more gold reporting, it just disappeared from the AM dial.[/quote]

The same observation  can be made for the ticker on the top of the CNBC screen, though you will see the DOW on every other flip  you will grow old waiting for Gold, Silver and Copper spots except, of course,  on down days when it is highlighted.  So be it, I would personally like to see Gold and Silver prices get gutted, ultimately Gold and Silver will not be contained but in the short term I will take advantage of any buying opportunities I can get.  In other words; the powers that are suppressing Gold and Silver are only working in our best interest.  Nacci.

I second what Vitger is saying. There is a rather long video (in two parts) that Still narrates, with a far more in-depth analysis and comprehensive illustration of centuries’ worth of historical context: of gold and fiat money systems, central banks and how the Fed came to be - right up to what is happening now. It is absolutely worth sitting down to watch it in its entirety.
Videos here:

Part 1:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7757684583209015812&hl=en&emb=1#docid=6076118677860424204
Part 2:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7757684583209015812&hl=en&emb=1#docid=-7336845760512239683

Interesting comment from Julian Assange of Wikileaks related to this blog post:

Could that be the “black swan” that starts it all?

 

In a fiat system run by private parties based on money-as-debt, there is no incentive for constraint on credit creation, as the scarcity issue, which is the beating heart of the system, is constituted by the fact that the credit creators never issue enough "money" to pay the interest on the credit, so everyone is obliged to compete for whatever is scarce to pay the interest on the ever mounting debt.  This leads to war and more debt to pay for the wars.  Wash, rinse , repeat. The lure of gold is its relative scarcity , which when gold is required to permit further credit expansion, is understood to be the constraint on credit creation; however, the scarcity "factor" gives away the game: scarcity always means he who controls the gold--a worthless commodity--controls the game. (This is also true of non-renewable energy sources.) Gold, having no relation to production of real assets and goods, i.e., real wealth, only masks the wresting of power from one faction to another in a system predicated on scarcity.
 

 

“the scarcity “factor” gives away the game: scarcity always means he who controls the gold–a worthless commodity
First off, would you give all the worthless gold you own? Second, gold has many uses, look here,

http://geology.com/minerals/gold/uses-of-gold.shtml