My views are based on lots of things including the fact that I have met and interacted with the people mentioned. Up close and personal. I’m pretty good at reading people. I’m going to leave it at that.
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I must say that your assessment makes lots of sense Chris. When I read Fitt’s Solari Report, my first thought was “She’s full of shit. Estimated gas reserves off Gaza are < 1 year global consumption with only about 2.5 weeks of oil. There’s no way that is an important part of establishing any control grid. The land full of blown up buildings is not worth much other than for it’s beaches. Furthermore, the chance of Trump getting even 25% of the Gazans to leave without setting of WWIII is about zero and he certainly knows this, so this is a negotiation stance, not an actual plan.” If she doesn’t see this, what else is she missing?
I’ve seen both of them take data that indicated real problems and leap to extreme conclusions from it. For example, Wolfe made some real amateur errors that led her to take the Pfizer data that shows real reproductive harm and somehow conclude huge miscarriage rates that would be painfully obvious in our everyday unmediated personal experience. If I remember correctly, she failed to account for pregnancies that were ongoing at the data cut off date, failing to realize that many of the miscarriages would have occured by then, but only a fraction of the births.
So, yes, let’s surf this and celebrate the brilliant dismantling of the control grid that was certain to rapidly imprison us if left to it’s own devices.
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As in my other post just a few minutes ago, I continue to agree. Wolfe is a fierce mama bear type that cares deeply about everyone, especially woman and children. She have some decent science skills, but let’s her emotions take control and leaps to dark conclusions whether they are justified or not when the data suggests harm to those she cares about the most.
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That may be, Chris, but I still disagree with you. They raise a lot of valid points about the security and privacy of invaluable data being accessed by Musk and his team, as well as his huge conflicts of interest. I especially liked the point of how so many are cheering the exposure of USAID expenditures & corruption - agreeing pretty much everyone wants to see that exposed, however, many are at the same time not understanding the risks of how all the data was accessed, by whom, using what processes, routes, and servers. To me there are a ton of red flags there that are definitely worth raising for both businesses as well as individuals. The potential for use/misuse of such data is incredible.
@quercus-bicolor-2 I believe the control grid Fitts is referring too is a global grid, a big part of which is Musk’s Starlink satellite system. I do not recall them talking about Gaza in this interview, certainly with respect to a control grid.
It is more about the who and the how than the what re what is being done. As I said, we will find out. I am trusting my gut and will continue to. I am pretty good at reading people too…
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It feels to me no mater who’s in charge we are going to a surveillance mark of the beast society. Maybe some of us will be able to curtail it for awhile, but inevitably all will be marched there. I am hopeful with Trump in office, yes better than the alternative for sure, but something feels off. I like what I see, but it’s too good. I don’t trust it. When Fox news is throwing the confetti and everyone is feeling like we’re winning…hhmm. Maybe I’m a sceptic, but my street smarts is telling me to watch my back. I like Fitts’ work. I’d LOVE for you to interview her.
This is an interesting and seemingly educated perspective:
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Chris asked Evie … “what would you do if your daughter came home confused about her sex/body?” … I would turn her phone off, take her out of school, pack up the car and a tent and go camping for a month. Cook food, eat it together, wash clothes, get rained on, dry out, go walking, read a map, wonder at nature, go shopping, wash the dishes. Do that for a month and see where she is at. That is what I would do.
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It typically takes a few hours before the replay becomes available. Sometimes the next AM.
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After reading the link below, Mike “Frame Game” Benz is on mental probation for me.
Benz clearly operated duplicitously in the past, admits it, and so I have questions now…
I had a squirrely feeling listening to him on Tucker, especially around the halfway mark. He was soft-peddling the Politico payments, arguing that drag shows in Bangladesh(?) might have been sophisticated but necessary undermining operations, and that USAID was doing a lot of good too.
All of these positions are orthogonal to his prior warnings about the Deep State’s operating methods, and so Evie and I were making quizzical funny faces at each other in the kitchen as we listened.
So I puzzled and then Walter Kirn directed me to the above linked article. Once an operative, always an operative? I dunno. But when my spidey senses go off, I pay attention to them.
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Those are the main talking points being put out by Wired magazine and slapped all over Bluesky and Reddit at present.
I don’t track those concerns because ever since Snowden we already know that we are 100% tracked and we have no remaining privacy to be concerned about. I hope everybody knows that.
Apple has all that data, as does Amazon, and your insurance companies as well as the FBI and NSA and the dark web where Nigerian and Romanian scamsters have SS #'s and all the rest.
But now, suddenly, I am supposed to be up in arms because Elon supposedly has access to what is being termed “private and invaluable data?”
What data is that to you? What exactly do you think Elon has access to that isn’t already widely available to the entire ecosystem of goobermint and corporate actors?
But to then weave that into a blanket assertion that it therefore follows that Elon has nefarious purposes that involve our enslavement is going to require more for me than confident assertions that this must be the case.
I’m not the only one who has noticed either…here’s a simple string of four in a row comments under one of Naomi’s latest frettings on the subject:
No editing on my part, just opened the Tweet and took a grab.
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You can believe whatever you want, Chris and I will do the same. I do not trust Musk or any of the Tech Bros. Never have, never will. Why would I? They are still widely censoring, still pursuing control of all things. They aren’t planning/building all those data centres because they are truly altruistic human beings…
Once again, time will tell how this all unfolds. I will retain my scepticism until I see sufficient reason to let go of it.
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You should trust them, but not in the regard they will do what is in your interest, but theirs. The only question of relevance is how much yours and theirs overlap and whether that is satisfactory, given the alternatives.
I think the data center play is a leverage one. Modern computers and software is leverage. If you can get ahead of the debt cycle fast enough, you can keep that leverage. For a while, everyone with spare capital thought they might get insanely rich backing AI. I suspect most of these projects will primarily be capital incineration machines.
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Can’t say I disagree. The horse named personal data left the barn long ago. What .gov and it’s social media minions don’t have, we offer up.
Where was everyone when previous admins were sharing our data with agents of foreign nations? How about when Homeland security was formed and all data banks were melded into one and we all Intelligently Act like Patriots since 911, only doing so gets us on that list ya know.
Not saying I don’t see potential dangers to the massive amount of fiat changes taking place, but the train is already off the rails. I just hope the courts are able to make decisions with expediency.
Common knowledge and consensus about the corruption is the only hope. Too bad it did not start with Snowden or earlier.
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We’re seeing the effects of Peak Trust and we’d be wise to factor that into our thinking and acting. We’ve been lied to for so long, about so much, by so many that we tend to distrust everything. That’s natural, and I feel it too. But we have to be willing to trust somebody a little bit to begin rebuilding. Otherwise, white knights will appear to help us but will be stymied by Peak Trust: ie. they won’t be able to help us rebuild because they need a certain amount of trust to be successful.
Here are two things I know: 1) My private, valuable data is already disseminated all over the world, and 2) If Trump, Musk and DOGE were doing legitimately good things the first three weeks this is how it would look. Therefore, I’m willing to risk extending some trust while maintaining vigilance.
Slipping quickly past this trust issue and skating forward “to where the puck is GOING TO BE,” I want to be part of the solution as “John Carter” describes in this long but valuable essay. Executive summary: we, all of us down to the most ordinary citizens, have to be engaged in a blitzkrieg to take back our societies and governments that the first three weeks of the Trump Administration has opened up for us.
https://barsoom.substack.com/p/the-blitzkrieg-through-the-institutions
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I didn’t ask to swap beliefs, I asked specifically what data it is that you are citing that causes you concern. Nobody has specifically named it yet that I’ve come across.
Perhaps I’ve overlooked something.
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This was touched upon in the video above with Austin-Fitts and Wolf. It is not hard to extrapolate implications. I am not a tech expert by any stretch, but as an example, think about proprietary code. What competitors, organizations, or perhaps malcontent individuals would benefit from having access to, for example, PP proprietary code? We have seen PP previously under attack from bots & suspected trolls. If the people behind these things wanted to wreak havoc they could do so if they obtained access to the PP code from a third party who is willing to give/sell access. It could destroy all you have worked for, all you hold dear.
What about here in Canada, with the freezing of bank accounts as an example. The implications of gaining access to code used to control banking transactions is in all likelihood something coveted by many who would use it for ill intent. We have already experienced first hand what can and will be done so I don’t have to speculate on the “what if”.
Data and code are two different things, are they not? Yes, data in the form of organizational, personnel as well as personal information is already widely captured, per Snowden, as you rightly indicate. But is code also captured? Perhaps this is what you are overlooking?!? I do not know the answer to that question, which again, is one posed by CAF and Wolf. It is to me a very valid question. What if these young adult, apparent savants that Musk is using have access to all the code? It is a scary question on many levels, with many implications.
@thc0655 Tom, I get what you are saying re the trust issue. There are those I will give some trust to get this ship righted, others not so much. Musk in in the latter category for me.
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For once I envy you being Canadian! You don’t have to trust Musk because he and DOGE’s access to the systems of the US Treasury, IRS, USAID etc. doesn’t endanger you that I can see. You can sit back and watch. If something nefarious goes on here you’ll probably see and have time to react before it gets to you. If Musk et al accomplish some great things that may embolden Canadians to do something similar. Us Americans are a captive audience building the aircraft in midair while flying it. There are a few I’d be glad to trust more than Musk or Trump (eg. Rep. Thomas Massie of KY or Ron Paul) but I don’t have that choice. This is the best looking movement I’ve seen in 60 years. Not that I have a choice because I’m handcuffed to the top row of the stadium bleachers and maybe, just maybe, the water may have quit rising for a few seconds. I’m keeping my eyes peeled and putting off the moment I have to start gnawing off my hand for a little while. 
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If anyone wants to dig into this more than an article describing another article, here’s the original one from NBC (bastion of journalism ethics) on Benz and Frame Game:
Here also is Benz’s lengthy comment on it in Twitter, which is also linked to from the article Chris referenced:
https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1710479185028726943
The samples of content I’ve seen, which NBC describes as ‘racist conspiracy theories’ and ‘far-right narratives,’ are unsurprisingly rather mundane IMO. It reminds me of when I realized a few years back that any accusation of someone making ‘racist comments’ (or homophobic, sexist, etc.) was entirely meaningless unless I bothered to go see what the comments actually were, and 95% of the time they weren’t as described.
With Benz, I guess the bigger issue is whether his participating anonymously in something designed to mold opinions (arguably a ‘psyop’) casts doubt on his more recent and current activities. I’m not convinced it does, but I’m open to the possibility.
It’s slightly surprising to me Benz hasn’t gotten a position in the new administration, but I can’t read much into that either. Maybe he prefers what he’s doing now, or maybe he wasn’t asked for reasons we don’t know about. I’d say much the same about Robert Malone, who’s faced many accusations of being insincere and controlled opposition. Have his accusers spotted something real, or is he being unfairly attacked to damage his credibility and limit his effectiveness? Without knowing more, I accept that either could be true.
I’ve noticed similar in previous interviews, in which he emphasized his concern about internet censorship in America while being explicitly neutral about the USA endlessly screwing around in other countries’ affairs. I think he was on with Shawn Ryan discussing this. Whether he’s actually neutral or just thinks the censorship debate shouldn’t get tangled up with other issues, he didn’t really say clearly and I’m not sure it matters much if he’s not calling the shots.
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This was a pivotal moment for me as well. It was sobering to see just how many protections are by policy (a statement of normalcy) rather than something tangible.
I suspect most of us in the USA are in the same boat. It’s one reason I don’t let any one bank get all my business.
As far as inappropriate access, it may be useful to note that this is a whole section of the news where this happens, including one of the banks I do business with. Eg. 21 people charged with stealing nearly $7 million from USAA bank and its customers | Stars and Stripes - “The group gained access to those banking details through three workers employed by a call center…”
I have to admit, it makes me no end of nervous that banks do things like send you an SMS code (which is also insecure), then every single person you get at the call center will ask you for the code, yet you get the code sent like this: “USAA: Your one-time code is xxxxxxx. USAA will never call you and ask for this code. Concerns? Call 877-762-7256.”
I do not know if there’s anything we can really do to solve it, except to know it is how it is with open eyes.
To be perfectly clear. I am not saying I like this method of action (DOGE like a bull in the china closet), but I do believe it is the best option available. Any option I would like wouldn’t get off the ground.
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Indeed, this is an idiotic talking point to get people worked up over nothing. Remember when Trump had ‘nuclear secrets’ at Mar-A-Lago that he might have been selling to foreigners? Or at least he could have had them hypothetically so just imagine if he did and sold them on eBay!
I’m expecting a breathless reference to ‘precious bodily fluids’ next.
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