When Official Stories Collapse: 9/11, Charlie Kirk, and the Fight for Western Values

Originally published at: When Official Stories Collapse: 9/11, Charlie Kirk, and the Fight for Western Values – Peak Prosperity

I recently appeared on Liberty Lockdown with Clint Russell and Bret Weinstein to discuss the official stories around 9/11 and the Charlie Kirk shooting, along with the broader forces shaping our politics, economy, and culture. We examined physical and scientific problems with those narratives, including Building 7’s collapse and the ballistics of Kirk’s wound, then connected them to patterns of expert capture, public psychology, and events from COVID policy to current wars. The conversation also covered the Clancy case, collapsing Western values around family and justice, manipulated energy markets, youth demoralization, immigration, and whether a genuine America-first alternative can still emerge.

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https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/2099931568408051863?s=20

So the USA is selling these bombs to Israel.

What is the PURPOSE of these munition?. Who will they harm? Whose homes, schools, churches, roads and water treatment plants will they destroy?

Do we Americans actually WANT to kill these people?

Is their death our actual INTENTION?

Their deaths are easily foreseeable results of this sale. We need to be sure that this RESULT is our truest INTENTION.

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It’s not a sale. But a gift.

The Israelis aren’t paying. US tax payers are.

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Tucker Carlson writes on this sale of Mega-Bombs to Israel.

According to an informed federal official, in the coming months the Trump administration plans to send a total of 40,000 Mark 84 and Blu-117 bombs to the government of Israel. Each bomb weighs 2,000 pounds. This appears to be the largest transfer of conventional explosive ordnance from the United States in modern history.

How big is this shipment? It amounts to 40,000 tons of bombs. For perspective, the largest American air raid of World War Two was the Eighth Air Force’s attack on Berlin in March of 1945. Combined, the 2,023 Allied aircraft involved dropped about 3,000 tons of bombs. That’s 7.5 percent of what Trump is sending to Israel. That same month, March of 1945, the US Army Air Forces began the single most destructive bombing raid in human history, Operation Meetinghouse over Tokyo. More than 100,000 Japanese civilians were killed. By the end of that operation, the US had dropped 1,600 tons of bombs. That’s four percent of what Trump is sending to Israel. World War Two ended five months later, when the US dropped an atomic bomb on the city of Hiroshima. The shipment Trump is sending to Israel amounts to more than three times the destructive power of that nuclear explosion. There is no precedent for what the Trump administration is doing.

Nor is there a justification. The government of Israel is not fighting World War Two, or even a war. It is engaged in periodic skirmishes with a guerrilla force in Lebanon, and it is working to exterminate an unarmed civilian population in Gaza. Neither front requires modern 2,000-pound bombs.

An American-made Mark 84 has a destruction radius of half a mile. It releases a thermal wave the temperature of the surface of the sun. Within 100 feet of the explosion, rock melts and human flesh turns to vapor. The bomb collapses apartment buildings and leaves craters thirty-five feet deep. Until the war with Iran, the US military generally avoided using the Mark 84 in urban areas. It kills too many civilians.

For the Netanyahu government, that’s been the upside. In the weeks after October 7, the IDF dropped nearly six hundred 2,000-pound bombs on densely populated areas in Gaza, including on more than 100 officially designated civilian evacuation zones. The slaughter was so grotesque and embarrassing that for a moment the Biden administration paused a shipment of Mark 84s. Those shipments quickly resumed under Trump. Now they’ve accelerated.

It’s hard to overstate the scale of the crime the Israeli government is committing in Gaza. Over the last three years, more than a quarter-million Palestinians have been killed or wounded by Israeli forces there. The majority of them have been noncombatants: women, the elderly and tens of thousands of children. Many thousands more remain missing, presumably entombed under the rubble of 200,000 collapsed buildings. So far the Israelis have destroyed 92 percent of all homes in Gaza, and 34 of the 36 hospitals. By comparison, the 1945 Allied bombings of Dresden, now acknowledged as a war crime, destroyed about half of the city’s inhabited buildings.

By any definition, what the Netanyahu government has done in Gaza is genocide. The 40,000 new bombs the Trump administration is sending will be used to do the same in Lebanon, and likely in other countries in the region. If you wanted to extend the Iran war into the indefinite future, this is exactly what you’d do.

So far none of this has received public scrutiny. At some point, inevitably, it will be described in media accounts as an “arms sale.” It is not an arms sale. It is a gift, funded by American taxpayers through the Foreign Military Financing program, an arrangement designed to disguise welfare as capitalism: Congress appropriates money to the executive branch, which transfers the cash to Israel to “buy” American-made weapons, in this case from General Dynamics. Politicians claim this is a win for America. Most voters have no idea they paid for it. The bill in this case is about $3 billion. Add that to the $352 billion the US Treasury has transferred to Israel since 1951.

How did this happen? The request for 40,000 new high-explosive civilian-killing bombs originated at the US Embassy in Jerusalem, which is run by Christian Zionist Ambassador Mike Huckabee and his aide David Milstein, who is the stepson of Fox News host Mark Levin. From there it moved to the State Department, where Marco Rubio enthusiastically approved it.

At this point, only four more people need to sign off before the bombs ship to Israel: Senators Jim Risch and Jeanne Shaheen, the chairman and ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee; and Congressmen Brian Mast and Gregory Meeks, the top two members of the equivalent House committee. All four are committed neocons. Collectively they’ve taken millions from the Israel lobby. In 2015, Brian Mast traveled to Israel to volunteer for the Israeli military. In 2023, Mast showed up in the House of Representatives wearing an IDF uniform.

It’s hard to imagine any of them hesitating before sending more free bombs to Israel. Only public outrage can stop this.

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I’m totally against this!

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I watched the first 30 minutes and saved the remainder to youtube’s ‘watch later’.
Clint’s kitchen distracted me, but I have many 11/09/2001 questions.

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Several sources confirm what you have said @askr These $2.8 billion dollars worth of mega-bombs are indeed a gift from the US taxpayers to Israel’s World Domination Faction Government.

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/2099930034072965201?s=20

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This is one of the better discussions Ive seen of late looking at most of the issues our western society are facing, especially for the 20 somethings..

First thing Ive shared to the Facebook in a long while. Thanks Gents.

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Chris, I want to help you with the Lindsey case.

The correct legal question to ask is “Did she know it was wrong?”

That question works for Brett’s polar bear example too.

In Lindsey’s case she seemed to know her actions were wrong at several points.

This Redacted episode was really good.

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If the world worked the way I wanted, we’d build enough bombs and weapons no one would want us to use them. Then when they were aging out, we’d disassemble them and use the raw materials to make the next weapons - and never sell the munitions to anyone outside the USA.

I recognize it’s not that easy as some countries are in the same pickle the USA was when we were trying to gain our independence.

Does this mean that the overton window on the discussion of depopulation has finally cracked. If so, i have lots to discuss. Consequently the logical follow on topic after that whenever it finally sinks in for people that they are actively trying to mame and kill us (presumably to save the planet, read: prevent overshoot) and our loved ones, what are we prepared to do about it as chris alluded to with the old womans warning to prevent it happening again. Asking for a friend

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Always informative and on point, great discussion. The impending energy crisis has a very orchestrated feel to it. Seems like all paths lead to the Georgia Guide Stones. The whole global state of affairs is man-made and appear designed to drive dependency and control. It doesn’t take much imagination to see millions living on UBI and government housing, thus making them subject to whatever the controllers decide. (Think Gaza but thousands of them).
Also, we hear very little about China anymore. They’re the elephant in the room that benefits most from the west’s poor decisions.

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Still listening here. Loving that this goes into the social breakdown.

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This quote from Tucker Qatarlson is a significant escalation from his already horrible use of the word “genocide” w.r.t the Gaza conflict.

If the Israelis REALLY were trying to kill off every man, woman and child in Gaza, there would be a lot fewer living people there than there are now. Best estimates are that about 3% of the population has died, and half of those were Hamas fighters using the other half as human shields.

I really wish Qatarlson would go put his body where his heart is and go to Gaza, to be a freedom fighter.

Bret Weinstein is disappointed with Michael Shermer. Steve Kirsch is disappointed with Alex Berenson. I may not have the BS detection of Chris, but it seems I’m excellent with people. Neither of them have rationalist epistemology.

Let me unpack: If you find overwhelming evidence about the truth of a matter, what do you do? If you can’t be convinced by evidence then, like Alex, your epistemology is not rational.

If your epistemology states that “all conspiracies are well-known”, like Michael Shermer then any evidence of a new conspiracy can be dismissed, because it doesn’t impact your belief structure. Any new conspiracy that becomes well-known merely reinforces your point - yet another conspiracy you believe is yet again well-known. Except it fundamentally fails to predict the future, and if you have no interest in being right when the majority are not, you are not even close to rationalist epistemology.

Arguing with either of them is a fundamental waste of time. I suspect Alex is in love with his own intelligence, but the deeper motivations are hard to judge. Michael is probably an intelligence asset, but I guess it’s possible he’s just fundamentally irrational and likes it that way.

Meanwhile, you can watch people who flow with evidence. Bret, Chris, Steve Kirsch (who is a bit excitable, but fun) and many others. At any time, they will be vastly more correct than those with a more dogmatic epistemology.

In times past, dogmatic epistemology may have been worthwhile. These dogmas were crafted by great minds with deep love over centuries. Your own creation would likely be far worse than the standard teachings. On the other hand, modern-day doctrine is pure anthropocide.

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Unfortunately I am more and more of a mind that many Americans don’t want to know the truth regarding many things because they are simply too afraid to face the adjustment. As Mark Twain put it (and I probably heard this from you, Chris!), it’s a lot easier to fool a man than to get him to admit he’s been fooled.
As for “Western values”, I think the term is becoming less and less useful when we see the West fighting against them, and people outside the West fighting for them.
We don’t just live in a material world. As complex beings, we inhabit multiple worlds, and the world of ideas is one of them. Ideas do not conform to East or West, North or South. The world of the mind has its own rules, and ideas are not permanently attached to any piece of real estate or any spot on the map. I think the term “Noble Ideas” is more useful in today’s multi-nodal world.
We have come to call some our highest aspirations “Western” because certain prominent thinkers in Europe articulated them so well during the Western Age of Enlightenment AKA the Age of Reason which flowered in the 18th Century.
We know those ideas because they chose to reveal themselves to us, not because we manufactured them. Today those ideas are being fought for and represented most vigorously by courageous people outside the West.
History inevitably reveals who talks the talk, and who walks the walk.

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250,000 killed or injured. 90% displaced. 90% of structures destroyed. That’s a lot of mayhem to just to “remove” Hamas.

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That is a very, very Jewish viewpoint, SonjaX6.

All zionist talking points.

Just about impossible to support the statistics with current day data or with an understanding of Israels Amalek warfare approach.

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Well, I’m not Jewish. I’m a Missouri Synod Lutheran. I don’t even have close friends or family who are Jewish.

I do sympathize with the evangelical Christians who are probably the largest supporters of Israel, numbers-wise, although I don’t agree with their theological reasoning. Many evangelical Christians believe a nation of Israel must exist for Jesus to return. (I wish I could read the Bible that uncritically, but I’ve been permanently jaded).

I don’t support the government of Israel uncritically. I think Oct 7 was a LIHOP, for example. The government decided to let Hamas overrun the boundaries, and rape, pillage and kill for 7 hours, in a country that only takes 2 hours to drive from end to end, at most.

But Hamas is evil. They openly say they want to destroy the nation of Israel, and almost every kid inside Gaza has been brainwashed to hate Jews, to think killing them is the best thing they can aspire to.

Islam has been a curse on the face of the Earth since it’s inception, and if it is not stopped, life here on Earth will be rather hellish for everyone from the time Muslims take over every country, until human life is extinguished.

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But Israelis are evil. They openly say they want to destroy Palestine, and almost every kid inside Israel has been brainwashed to hate Palestinians, to think killing them is the best thing they can aspire to.

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