Starts at about 9:46 in. I can’t find the original interview with this melly? woman I initially watched. She had a lot more to say.
Great, thanks a lot. That will be an interesting forum on Monday!
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In the video showing “Crooks” near the AGR sign, the footage is actually from the day after the incident. From the Duke Report, during an interview with George Webb, they mention that David Stewart said it was him in the video, and that he was returning to the facility the next day to retrieve his phone, which had been confiscated by the FBI. The date and time make sense when considering this context.
Without getting conspiratorial, it’s worth noting that everyone in these videos appears to be wearing the exact same outfit and looks very similar from a distance. If David Stewart is now seen in the same outfit that Crooks was wearing the day before, this raises some questions. It’s also peculiar that the person walking at 4:26 doesn’t seem to have the same facial outline as the photo of Crooks taken by Greg Nichols. These details suggest that there might be more to clarify regarding the identities and circumstances in the video.
They discuss this starting at 6:00 minutes into the video: Trump Shooting Update
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This is not the video I was referring to. I can say that in the video I saw the van was far clearer than that photograph.
I see the dog isn’t going crazy over the Elantra.
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As the crow flies it was more like a quarter mile (ca. 1440 feet).
Billy Thoma lives in the house at the corner of Lawrence Ave., just south of Sheetz.
okay these are two different videos— disregard my last comment i see your explanation above. but its still odd that the date is incorrect in the mallis dashcam.
Very good catch! If this had been Crooks’ car, however, one would think that the dogs would have reacted and and that other law enforcement officers or a bomb squad would have come, and that this car would eventually have been towed away. But we have no reports of that, right?
On the other hand, do we know for a fact that the bomb squad did not come to the white van? For some reason, the people in the neighborhood thought there were bombs in the van. (Billy Thoma said twice that all the officers jumped back when they first opened the van.)
BTW, on the cop car cam in the AGR building east parking lot one can see several dogs and their handlers going in and out of the building.
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This is what I thought too.
The only thing I know about the dogs is, that they can smell up to 100’000 better than humans. When it comes to this K9 dogs, it would be interesting to know if they only smell things they were trained on (i.e. drugs, corpses or explosive). Are they kind of specialised in only one thing or can one dog be trained to sniff for multiple things (at the same time)?
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If they think it might have a bomb, then they would evacuate the area. If they’re telling you to leave your house, I would ask why.
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True, one would think that. But I don’t know enough about this sniffing dogs, maybe they only sniff when told to. Would be nice somebody with knowledge could enlighten me.
No official reports about the bomb squad checking this Hyundai Elantra as far as I know. There was one bomb squad guy on the roof at some point, so at least one of them was around.
With the white Van it’s not so clear to me. Also no official report as far as I know. But in the tiktok comments somebody stated “Bomb squad was there and they did clear the vehicle.”. This commenter claims her aunt and her best friend live right next to where the Van was found, so it could be he/she has first hand information.
I remember that units with the dogs at door 9/building 6.
The date is the next day because the clock is set 12 hours ahead. While it’s PM on the 13th, his dashcam clock is AM on the 14th. He would have likely set the clock before noon as PM, and it would have still showed the same day. Then at noon that day it changed to AM the following day.
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The Washington SWAT guy was first there on scene. He was the one to move the gun. He was also messing with the gun in this pic at 18:19:57
ESU Mike also takes an object that came from under Crooks, puts on building cap and then transfers to SWAT guy.
Note that this is all taking place before SS Agent gets on roof albeit first one to use ladder.
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That was my thought too. Also is this guys place 150 yards away from where the Van was found/searched. If they evacuated him with his family, they would have evacuated at least 20 other houses and probably Sheetz around the corner as well. I don’t think that would have passed unheared.
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I made diagram similar prior to release of BC video.
I am yet to make anything work with times and sightings that makes sense.
Note in WINDOW GATE the E window was open 18:16:54 when ESU first got on roof then closed at 18:17:13 and then noted open again at 19:06:00
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Where did you find this new bodycam footage?
Could someone with access to Instagram please check this link and see if it has something about which members of the Zelienople PD are Butler ESU members? Thank you.
Made a mock-up of the running path from information we have based on my previous positions.
At 18:08:04 Crooks climbed down from the building and stood on the little connection between the main building and the roof he lowered himself from. The first instance that Crooks was caught on film on the roof currently available. This is at the purple position. (BWC2-122109)
At 18:08:17 Crooks lifted himself onto the main building and seemingly picked up a backpack at the Yellow position. (BWC2-122109)
In the next 20 seconds Crooks disappears a little behind the roof-line which could indicate that he moved a little west on the building.
At 18:08:37 he was at position Red. From this point the Copenhaver video starts which helps triangulate Crooks position on the roof. He disappears from the Copenhaver video after a couple of seconds.
At 18:08:42 he was around position Orange from BWC2-122109. This is at the narrow section of the building. He could either be on the lower part of the roof on the west side which would support Crooks disappearing from the Copenhaver footage or he was on the higher end to the east.
At 18:08:47 he was at position Green.
At 18:08:50 he was at position Blue and at this point the Copenhaver footage stops.
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This looks like a great way to get pinpoint accuracy on his roof path. Important question…since cell phones keep accurate time, and the bodycam times have been proven to off by as much as 12 seconds in one case, have you taken those bodycam time variances into account, if it applies to the bodycam in question?
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