Woody Tasch: Slow Money

The Slow Money movement focuses on deploying capital, locally, to strengthen small food enterprises. Its goal is to improve the quality, dependability and sustainability of our food source, while financially nurturing communities and delivering an attractive return on investment to native investors.

Woody Tasch is the founder and chairman of Slow Money - in this week's podcast, he and Chris discuss the templates his organization is piloting across over 350 ventures in local food production, processing, distribution and marketing. $38 million in "slow money" has been deployed to-date, and that amount will hopefully accelerate as the movement's viral and self-organizing expansion gains steam.

The problem isn’t that the system doesn’t work. It's that it works too well for its own good.

We’ve created super cheap, super shelf stable food and in the process externalized all the costs of soil erosion, depleted aquifers, etc. They involve toxins in the environment, chemical interactions they’ve never even studied, all these different things that are kind horrible, carbon in the atmosphere. Some people don’t realize how much agriculture, especially large-scale investor, produces carbon in the atmosphere. So you have a couple hundred years of industrial projects doing that.

Now we’re starting to move back in another direction. If you suddenly start internalizing all the costs that have been externalized for 250 years you are going to face some pretty serious market hurdles. The market doesn’t know how to deal with all of this stuff. So that’s a very big historical thing.

Everybody can’t afford to eat food that has the full cost of food production in it. We all got hooked on this really cheap, subsidized, externalized cost food. Not everybody’s going to wake up one day and go: You know what? I’m willing to pay twice as much for this. I’m willing to pay twice as much for that. I’m going to go down the street and pay the farmer everything he or she needs to make a fuller day on their farm because I know it's the right thing to do. Very few people are going to be able to do that. But some people are.

And I would say we at Slow Money are part of that vanguard. We’re saying you know what? We’re willing to start internalizing all those costs because we’re kind of freaked out, if I can use a non-scientific term, about what things are happening over the next 25 to 50 years and we don’t want to wait till the market strikes. We want to push ahead. 

For those interested, the next Slow Money annual gathering will take place in Louisville, KY, November 10-12, 2014. More information can be found here.

Click the play button below to listen to Chris' interview with Woody Tasch (46m:29s):

This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://peakprosperity.com/woody-tasch-slow-money/

Totally concur. Thank you for podcasting something "real".
I am growing date palms out at Salmon Gums. I started out trying to grow a cash crop and came a cropper. I laid out many kilometers of dripper line, spent hundreds of hours getting the 120mm. diameter siphon to work and spent days in the baking sun, covered in our famous flies.

Total waste of time. All the Paulonia died.

I found out that dates were contented with the soil conditions (Internet). I bought some plants at $120 each, spent time and effort planting said plants in the hard clay. Next I bought Medjool dates from California and germinated the seeds and planted the resulting trees out. With no irrigation.

Are you detecting a trend here? Cheaper and cheaper, easier and easier. Now I just eat the date, scruff the ground with my boot, drop the seed and cover it.

The One Straw Revolution. (What do I not need to do in order to get the same yield?) Do yourself a favour. Buy it. Even better- read it.

And

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAN_pD7c6h8

But I have to include Paul Stammets. The soil should smell like the soil. If you take a handful of broad acre intensive agriculture soil and smell it, it is sterile. If you take a healthy, living soil full of mycelia it smells good enough to eat. That is what will put food on your plate. It comes from these observations. Weeds are natures scabs. If you wound the soil you get scabs. So do not fiddle with the soil. Leave it alone.

And we won't be abusing the word "sustainable" any more, will we?

 

I love this podcast because it was inline with my moral leanings and it acknowledges that which is hard to articulate in our culture: wealth is rooted in agricultural capital (the carrying capacity of the land where you live) and social capital (the people you cooperate with in order to coexist), not in financial or industrial capital.    Oil, gas, coal and nuclear have allowed us to unlearn these lessons and become unhappy, over-medicated autonomous drones all pursuing growth for growths sake (willingly or not) because that is the direction the toxic river is flowing.  It occurred to me when Woody was discussing culture that what he was driving at is similar to the idea of permaculture.  A way to live that focuses our individual and collective energy on regeneration, rather than destructive consumption.
This conversation stood head and shoulders above many recent PP podcasts which have seemed to focus more on market moves and how to protect ill-gotten gains made during the latest run-up to the still unscheduled "next crisis".  No offense to Dave Fairtex and others of his inclinations, but participating in wall streets games, even if it is in anticipation of protecting your "wealth" from a collapse is inherently an endorsement of the wrongheaded philosophical underpinnings of growth and global industrial culture. It is impossible to completely disengage at this point, but we should all be making every reasonable effort to grow our relationship with soil and people and reduce our relationship with money, media and large institutions of all sorts that are past their pull date and just don't know it yet.

[quote=Thetallestmanonearth]This conversation stood head and shoulders above many recent PP podcasts which have seemed to focus more on market moves and how to protect ill-gotten gains made during the latest run-up to the still unscheduled "next crisis".  No offense to Dave Fairtex and others of his inclinations, but participating in wall streets games, even if it is in anticipation of protecting your "wealth" from a collapse is inherently an endorsement of the wrongheaded philosophical underpinnings of growth and global industrial culture. It is impossible to completely disengage at this point, but we should all be making every reasonable effort to grow our relationship with soil and people and reduce our relationship with money, media and large institutions of all sorts that are past their pull date and just don't know it yet.
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Amen Dude.

Tallest and Time2help, thats what we might be

According to distributists, property ownership is a fundamental right[4] and the means of production should be spread as widely as possible rather than being centralized under the control of the state (state socialism), a few individuals (plutocracy), or corporations (corporatocracy). Distributism therefore advocates a society marked by widespread property ownership.[5] Co-operative economist Race Mathews, argues such a system is key to bringing about a just social order.[6]

Who is going? I find that time of Nov. slow on the farm so i'm in.  robie

Who is going?
I would love to attend, if only to see Wendell Berry speak, but it's too far to travel for me just for a conference.  I hope you'll report back about what you learn there!  Have fun and take notes.

I enjoyed this so much, and learned things. Not sure if we can make it to Kentucky in November but we mean to try.

Good interview and right on target. But I wonder how relevant it is to the rest of the world. India just announced it is in the space race with its recent launch. Great, another billion plus looking to technology to define our future. How many more Indian mouths will this feed? 
Had three of my children head out to the acreage from the city to collect onions, potatoes, carrots, zucchini, and a jar of raspberry jam.  Am I part of the solution, or a contributor to the problem? Very interesting discussion, but couldn't help hearing what WASN'T said. Last comments by Chris and Woody left me feeling hopeful for the 1 percent, but overwhelmed for the rest. Keep at it, guys. . . maybe there's still enough time to make it happen. 

got room for two more. Let me know by PM soon.
husband,father,farmer…

 

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2014-10-08/west-virginia-cattle-farmers-build-local-food-economy