Now that I recall Rowe’s testimony, it was full of deflections. It’s not a person who decides, it’s a conversation; we have a process and it failed; we are reviewing the Mission Assurance to understand it; I don’t want to focus on an individual but want to understand the process, etc. For the SS organization it’s natural to have emphasis on processes and roles as personnel turnover is high, but it does allow responsibility to blamed on processes and away from people … very convenient for CYA. But it’s a bunch of distraction anyway, the security vulnerabilities transparently planned by SS were too numerous and gaping.
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It’s been a couple of weeks of snooping down every possible rabbit trail, but now this is beginning to make sense. And yet, so many questions still.
Thanks for the hard work, Chris and everyone at PP.
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Hi Chris,
I have been waiting to hear for an account of where the second five shots landed. I know that the middle one hit the bystander, but I don’t recall hearing where the others hit.
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I think you are exactly right VT. To me, he seems to be still running down the south roof face of building 3 when the clip is cut. That’s before the building 6 connection corridor. If that’s the case, he will come much closer and be much more visible by the time he gets to the crest of the building 6 roof. All that said, those are some very basic pixels to animate onto a suspiciously edited clip, three weeks later.
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He might only just be going down the south of building 2 roof when the clip cuts.
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Gsilva-i agree if you are saying the snipers were placed to make sure Crooks didnt make it off the roof alive.
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My guess is he is exactly on the money.
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This update has answered many of my questions.
I know from personal experience that an AR-15 carbine would be easy to conceal in a backpack. The two halves of the firearm are held together with two “takedown pins”. These pins have detents in them both for preventing them from walking themselves out of position while the firearm is assembled as well as preventing them from being removed from the lower receiver while the firearm is disassembled.
The following is context for those not familiar with the design of the AR-15. The design of using an upper and a lower gives several advantages. There are dozens of cartridges that can be fired with a standard AR-15 lower by simply changing the upper that is chambered in a different cartridge. The upper is where you will find the bolt, bolt carrier, barrel, gas system, and barrel extension. Some of these cartridges use the same standard magazine designed for holding 5.56x45 cartridges.
This flexibility can sometimes be dangerous if a magazine contains cartridges that are not designed for the installed upper. An example of this would be shooting a 300 AAC (Blackout) in a 5.56x45 upper. The cartridge can be chambered with the rifle fully in battery. Pushing a 0.308" wide bullet down a 5.56x45 barrel is dangerous and an easy mistake to make.
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The article said both injured victims, Copenhaver & Dutch were shot twice
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Dude. If the kill shot came from the front lobe brain of “Crooks”, there would have been a 120 degree splatter of “Crooks” brain Northward across the building. That there was a single stream of blood northward to the back of the building means purely and simply that the kill shot came from behind “Crooks”. This logically implies the two-story building with the open windows of behind the supposed shooters roof top position originates the likely “kill shot”. All seen in real time - yet those in that building Waited until shots were before responding…
Yeah.
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Agree 100%. This could also explain how the optic could have lost zero if it was in fact zeroed.
On another note… Here is a screenshot of the Secret Service Sniper’s line of sight on Crooks. I used 2.5 feet above the roof for the sniper’s elevation and 1.5 feet for Crooks. Clearance of 1ft at crown. Rerun with Crooks at 1ft above roof, sniper still has .5ft of clearance.
Downhill shot for the sniper. Crooks’ head was more exposed than one might think. Could also explain lack of splatter if bullet entered head and continued on into torso.
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Was Tim Burke responsible for the site strategy? Does the SS impose its plan on other agencies and groups? Placing Hercules 2 in its location facing north and Hercules 1 facing the opposite direction was irrational because there was an obvious blind spot for Hercules 2. Crooks headed decisively to this blind spot as if he already knew its location suggests a “made it happen” scenario. This certainly fits with all the media groups being present (that never have been previously) and the shorting of Trumps stock the day before.
There are obvious questions about how site-related strategies get planned. Was it decided on by one person or a planning group. Who was present when the plan was made? Surely there was criticism by others of the plan. Was there disagreement? Perhaps some disgruntled juniors are happy to fill us in anonymously. They would have talked about this. As part of an inquiry there is real opportunity to create division between different agencies or between individuals of the same agency responsible for planning but now looking to protect their own interests. I would love to see Hawley ask questions along these lines of the right people. When people or groups start disagreeing they do your work for you.
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No, no. It was not a “down hill” shot by the “sniper”. In fact it was an UP hill shot and that’s why the bullet went through the stage ear then escalated to hit the gentleman at the top of the stands behind, along with the railing being and the hydraulic of the heavy equipment behind and directly to the South. Make no mistake this was all staged.
You seem to have misinterpreted my post.
Secret Service Sniper Hercules 1 to Crooks line of sight. See yellow line below.
The telehandler and it’s hydraulic line are behind and left of the sniper…
I make no claim about whether it’s staged or not. I simply point out Hercules 1’s line of sight on Crooks.
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Late to the party here… do we know where the Crooks entry wound was? Front of head? Side? Left/right? Back?
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Leave it up to Crooks?
Not a chance!
Motorcycycle guy pulls up to open door on AGR.
Guys in room with tripod mounted gun leave to follow Crooks?
Maybe gun empty, motorcycle guy brings new clip, takes shot (missed) two more, evacuated bldg.
Crooks fires full clip spray (5rounds), so now 8 total & return fire causes him to reassess, then final round 10 seconds later to silence second shooter. Guy in co rner room gets off 3 rounds frm 2nd floor abandoned post, just behind Crooks.
Accounts for sound difference between shots 1-3 & 4-8.
No chance, if its nefarious, they leave if up to Crooks, who just dowloaded porn, prior to attempt.
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Is it just me or does Crooks’s search feed seem TOO IDEAL? (Stereotypical school shooter stuff, conspiracy theory nut, porn addict…)
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Dear Martenson,
In case you stumble upon this, something else crossed my mind.
Shots 4-8 wasnt planned if this entire thing was planned and conspired.
Trump was meant to be dead on shot1. 2 and 3 was backup along the same trajectory in case 1st one missed or semi injured trump.
1: If crooks acted alone - then 4-8 was in desperation once he realize he missed 1-3
2. Crooks shot 4-8 realizing his handler/shooter2 missed trump on 1-3. But this wouldn’t have been in his instructions as it was least expected.
3. Crooks was instructed by handler to just be on the rooftop and be in position. Shots 1-3 came out of 2nd shooter and 4-8 came out of 2nd shooter or a 3rd shooter nearby and not from crooks.
In any case, once we consider the reasoning that shots 4-8 wasnt planned in advance and was done due to desperation or for misdirection, we might see a different angle to the story.
What was crooks exit strategy? After making all the noises? Blow up the truck parked far away and then walk away quietly to the bike? Or he had none? It would have been easy if trump was dead. But the 2nd shooters exit strategy would have been to shoot crooks, climb up and drop the empty shells around crooks. How much time was needed to accomplish this? Was there any guarantees that he could make it to crooks before other LEOs showed up?
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testimony from Copenhaver’s attorney said he was shot first in the arm and then shot again (more critical injury).
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If you listen to this interview Gary of Paramount Tactical did with an eyewitness you will hear first hand that he was the motorcycle guy.
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