@sherlock-holmes I don’t have the footage from the second photo. Can you provide the link to me?
I would not see your comment quickly. I usually only check this feed once a day usually. I have thrice today.
search for these .mp4’s:
WARNING GRAPHIC:warning: TMZ has obtained a new angle of the shooting at the #DonaldTrump rally (Audio has been enhanced by TMZ)
and
Viewer video 2 injured people taken from Trump rally in Butler
Pittsburgh Action News
BTW update
I did come across a pic of David with blood showing
Hey Vt you need that CSI enhance/zoom button on your keyboard…LOL
this is a great picture!
thanks!
I only find 1 smudge like stain halfway this photo near the railing:
and here there are two smudges at the 2nd and 3rd vertical bars:
but this horizontal part of the banner does not seem to have been damaged by any bullets…
maybe the police people’s hats have been positioned strategically to cover any bullet holes? ![]()
Thanks!
The location that coincides with my line fire of the 1st bullet is this yellow arrow:
Maybe is this dirt on the yellow circle. IDK.
It could had hit the vertical rail, not the horizontal one.
I would be more convinced by holes like these:







Is this continuing additional analysis changing anything? Do you still have Crooks shooting all 8 rounds? Hercules 1 from the south barn with the 10th and final shot? Has anything got moved to the windows or vents?
shrapnel would be the result of a bullet impact, i.e. a bullet would have to go through the fabric and a few cm/inch from that hole we would see a shrapnel tear
it seems to me that Chris managed to backoff roger with his fabricated animated gifs, which buried the vent/window hypothesis along the lines.
the highroof shooter is still where I assume the first 3 shots were fired from.
if crooks fired any shots, he fired the set of 5 rapid fire shots, if not, they originated from the same shooter as the first set of 3.
I have not released my trajectories yet because I want to minimise the number of assumptions, which is why I am focusing on the angle of the flag above the podium at the time of the first 3 shots were fired.
The sound analysis fascinates me because I don’t understand it and those who do can’t agree. I’m perplexed with the origin of the 10th shot. I know @cmartenson says it’s hot over the Trump mic. I’m curious if @greg_n has changed his opinion with the additional analysis.
Supposedly, there are 15,000 rally attendees.
Let’s say 14,000 are in front of Trump.
Let’s assume 3/4 of them (11,250) hit the dirt at the first shot.
Let’s say the half still standing (5,625) aren’t cell phone gurus.
That still leaves over 2,800 people with a chance to capture video not including the network broadcast cameras. How does no one capture the Hercules team making the kill shot?
This is what keeps tripping my BS meter but I have to follow the evidence.
It is intriguing that such a significant impact is visible in the X videos, far to the right of the bystanders, yet nothing can be observed in the high-resolution image provided by Sherlock Holmes.
Upon reviewing RSBN’s 10-hour, 30-minute live coverage, I identified a video sequence at 6:45:37 where the impact of the first shot is clearly discernible:
Go to YouTube and add
/watch?v=Rr63RgGN-Yo
to find the video. I am only allowed to post one media per post, since I am a new user, otherwise I would have included the direct link to this video.
The impact mark visible in the RSBN footage appears consistent with the impact location shown in the two X videos.
This brings the total to three videos confirming the same impact point. Could this suggest that, in the image supplied by Sherlock Holmes, the impact has been covered by the local police? A black string can be seen tied exactly at the location where the impact should be, now covered by the banner.
This matter certainly warrants further investigation, but the position of the impact now seems clear.
yes, I have often wondered about this myself…
so far I have not found any video taken from e.g. the purple, orange and bluish triangles in the following image:
a longer distance shot is important for the greater details, like the flag position and to determine when the JCB hydraulic teleporter/lift started lowering down.
as you know, it took me about 1.5 months to find the single footage (taken from the point labelled “IMG 0994”) that shows the exact moment when the hydraulic oil spray starts, and it turns out that this damage can be tied to bullet 3, where I previously assumed it was caused by bullet 1.
footage from (or near) the left (northern) bleachers looking at Trump should exist, and there are hundreds of smartphones on video while they are used to capture their surroundings, but every footage I have seen so far that looks at Trump’s face and the stuff in his background “suddenly” stops recording around 7-8 seconds before the first shot was fired and resumes when Trump is covered with his bury guards…
I can understand that from the 50-70 people standing near the trees (around source 4 in the above picture) and near RealDjStew, very few directed their phones to the rally area, as they were misdirected to look at the roof of AGR building 6, but still…
it is really unbelievable that none of the hundreds of videos that were made from around the left bleacher looking towards Trump’s stage has leaked out showing what happened…
the above picture shows the red triangle from where I have seen NO footage whatsoever showing the stage or people in the bleachers from right before the first shot until whatever subsequent bullet number…
the green triangle shows the area covered by the video IMG 0994 which is the single footage from in front of the stage that shows all shots, but it is too far from the barns behind Trump (about 130m, 140 yd, 420 ft) to see what happened…
the video has a decent resolution, so if someone zooms out on the barns they may be able to get more details, but I am kind of video zoom challenged…
I think footage from these areas is actively censored because it shows something incriminating: there is footage from the middle bleachers showing Trump from his left back side, but there is no footage from his right back/face side from these bleaches, and what could that incriminating something be? ![]()
one of his shoes was near the edge in the middle of the podium directly in front of the middle bleachers, and the other shoe was further south, and we have footage that a black suited female kicked it off the stage right before Trump asked to allow him to get his shoes…
note that from my perspective it is a serious blunder and a safety hazard that they removed his shoes, as this hampers his evacuation and increases the risk of him being injured on any shrapnel or other sharp objects on the ground, and his “security” agents might even step on his feet!
I have finished the geolocation estimations. I don’t have more data that contradict the latest update geolocations.
The last was DJstew, that one still intrigues me because his distance to Crooks is almost the same at all shots, varying maximum distance of 0.4m between shots 1 and 9. Also I found DJStew at the footage form the officer on the back of the bleachers at the exact time of the 3rd shoot and it hit “the nail in the head” of his location.
Here is the full frame:
Here is a zoom on DJStew:
Here is the line of sight from that frame:
This was satisfing.
It’s very blurry, but I can confirm that it’s DJStew because I synchronized DJStew, the officer, and the middle bleacher footage that sees DJStew.
If @greg_n, @offtheback, @sherlock-holmes, @cmartenson, @roger-knight or anyone find a line of sight or audio analysis that contradicted my geolocations I will update.
Since the last time I published results (5 weeks ago), I have added two new data sources:
- NTD camera audio from the press riser
- Vertical format cell phone “Don’t Run. Don’t Run.” (IMG 994)
These sources confirm the same results provided by the previous five audio sources.
The first 8 shots come from a 2.5 foot radium at the shooter’s location. In my observation, the data is so stable that it is simply impossible that any of the first 8 shots came from anyplace other than the established shooter position on the roof.
And I’m very sure that shots 9 and 10 came from the ESU officer on the lawn and the Hercules 1 sniper on the South Barn.
@vt1,
The thing that still isn’t fitting for me is that source 4 doesn’t move between shots 4 and 8. I have looked and looked at my shot alignment and can’t see how I would move them to cure this. And when I look at the video during the time of interest (21.3628 to 22.1422) I swear it looks like he is walking.
None of my other sources show these offsets for shots 4-8. So are we sure he doesn’t move?
If I place a “0” at time/location for shot 4, I see the following anomalies for 5-8 at source 4 (positive means the shot reports are arriving too late, or placing the shooter too far away):
Shot Anomaly (ft)
4 0
5 1.6
6 2.7
7 2.9
8 4.0















