I’m not convinced the South Barn countersnipers are the ones that took out Crooks. I’ve heard Trump say twice that it was a 400-yard shot and I heard the Blackwater guy say the same thing. I’m betting they know something we don’t.
Why?
Why?
Why should that be relevant if it had been possible?
Who?
Were these eyewitnesses able to rule out blanks?
If the whole thing was planned as a kayfabe, it wouldn’t have been difficult to place a few controlled eyewitnesses near Building 6.
Maybe even the cameramen were placed and that’s why their footage hasn’t been released yet.
Injured and dead do not contradict the kayfabe theory.
Was this photo published in raw format? Michael Yon claims that a forgery can be recognized in the raw format.
Michael Yon (combat photographer) talks about this photo from minute 52:00
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a professional sniper could have reliably and safely shot 1 meter above trump.
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the position could have been chosen so that the roof of building 6 would have been a physical barrier between the gun and Trump.
Trump himself could have published a photo of his ear. But he didn’t.
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Didn’t find redcap guy yet, but here some screenshots from the Dave Stewart film, looks like the same guy to me.
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Go bother other people with obvious nonsense. We’re trying to have a serious discussion on a serious topic.
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Dr. Zsolt, I have Richard Feynman on line 3 calling to ask if you’re uncertain about uncertainty. (sorry, couldn’t resist).
Those elevations are the most suspect now… After that is settled, which should be easy given drones could very well land at those places and we could get elevations for everything, then we would have I imagine windage and uncertainty about the positioning of the podium, bleachers, etc… @rough_country_gypsy did you happen to land the drone on the ground on the bleachers and podium locations by any chance?
@rough_country_gypsy I agree with that.
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I did not (sorry). The only ground-up measurements I’ve taken were today of the electric pole behind the bleachers. It’s exactly 40’.
I agree with all points (except 7a… it would be so close and powerful we would see some event happening there), and your mention of it being an important exercise. Especially the zero range and ammo. Those excel files consider the following assumptions (and I didn’t check other combinations).
a) 55 grains projectiles, the most common. b) muzzle velocity of 995 m/s, from the manufacturer of the ammo I use and get hits with. c) 100 yard zero, because his range’s website mentions zeroing targets at 50, 100 and 187 yards. It seemed so specific that I thought they don’t hold the line for people to go put up targets at different ranges.
We could plot all the combinations of zero and ammo, but time-wise I would rather do it after we get the elevations right. (my wife is already about to go ballistic on me).
have been considering only 55grains ammo with the speed of ammo that I use and get hits with.
Oh, he had enough time… That whole sequence of the Officer going to the front of the building, walking around in front of DJStewart…
I agree. @howdoiknowthisinfo
Very plausible plan. To add, Crook’s range doesn’t have targets at more than 200 yards away, I believe. Last year they installed electronic targets at 200 yards away, and other parts of the website mention zeroing targets at 50, 100 and 187 yards. Problem is, the casing ejection and recoil video I’ve been seeing since Aug 1st.
My first belief from the early days was that snipers shot twice, killing him in shot 9 and then hitting him again with #10 just to make sure. Then fom channel Mr. Guns and Gear we got that photo of a sniper in the barn, then I thought… ok, so SS Hercules shot them again to save face and look like they actually did anything. But then there’s the whole audio TDOA analysis. It does seem to have some bias to it, but looks good. Be that as it may, assuming people have a tendency to round numbers up, would it be reasonable to say it would be ‘up to’ 400 yards? Say, something between 200-400 yards. There are only a handful of vantage points on the scenario… Would the audio match?
No, I checked the podium recording again, and there is nothing audible. Snick 6 should be heard 180 ms after Snick 5, but there is no sound until 211 ms, which is the muzzle report from Snick 5. (Well, there is a sound @ 90ms, but that’s the echo from the sound system caused by Snick 5, I believe.)
In the NTD video, Snick 6 is noticeably quieter than all the other snicks. So, your explanation fits that observation.
I’m not so sure. We have 3 videos that contradict one another. I apologize for not having the specific times, I’m going from memory.
Video 1: The boosted officer video shows some interaction and then officer runs around panic mode to the front of the AGR. Firing begins about 30 seconds post-interaction.
Video 2: The Dave Stewart video does not show Crooks or his rifle in position clearly.
Video 3: We have a few moments showing Crooks not moving or crawling into position at the end…
That’s a LOT of activity for Crooks in these final 30 seconds or less. Warding off a boosted officer, low crawling on a hot metal roof in shorts and t-shirt, taking careful aim, and firing. While keeping low enough to not present a large target initially.
Not knowing the exact grade is not as problematic as one might suspect. Certain dimensions ARE known with accuracy and can be projected with accuracy out to the bleachers. For example the height of the building and slope of the roof is fairly certain. Thus I know Crooks line of fire is 6 ft above a shooter’s using vent 3. Since they cross at Trumps ear at a know distance, I know with 98% certainty that the vent shooter’s trajectory is 13 to 14" above Crooks at the South Bleacher corner. The ground elevations do not matter for that calculation.
Similarly, Even if we allow the grades to be off by 2 ft. (1 foot either way), we still know the two fence lines do not obscure a vent shooter’s line of fire. I have tried to express this with confidence percentages in my drawing. I also know certain 2nd shooter locations that are being considered simply do not work. Limited information still allows certain conclusions to have 90%+ confidence.
My pessimism about Google ground elevations is not shared by others. But since I have ordered surveys and still got information up to a foot off, I can’t imagine Google being better than an engineer in the field.
We live in a world of uncertainly. Reasonable conclusions can still be reached.
nice work!
WHO IS THIS GUY!
Hey BigTim,
Do you ignore evidence that does not fit your narrative?
We are here in a citizen investigation group and driven by facts.
Mike DiFrischia seemingly the person who filmed the famous TMZ movie with Crooks on the roof, fumbles his camera at exactly 12:80 seconds after loosing his balance (maybe off the root of the tree) His camera is directly facing the tree and not the roof of building 6. We should see this sequence in the movie, but we don’t! This is proof, he is not the guy who is filming, it is “RedCap” guy. My post is the longest one I have ever done in this forum, but I had to, to be as transparent as possible. Please everybody spend a little time and go have a look for yourself and judge for yourself:
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@BigTim and @daniloraf , are you trying to cover up for someone here?
I don’t have a “narrative,” and the allegation is offensive. I want the objective plain truth, whether it’s 1 or multiple shooters, who was involved, whether inside job or not, etc.
I did try to digest your extremely long post but it was too cumbersome and meandering, so I gave up. I couldn’t or didn’t find a concise point but just random questions or ramblings. Perhaps post a more concise question or point and I can go back and attempt to answer.
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Yeah, I don’t know. I just find it odd that people privy to information we’re not keep saying it was a 400-yard shot.
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Well, they claim they’re privy to special information. I have no idea why anything associated with this case should still be a secret. To me, anything other than radical transparency is deeply suspect. Why are all these people who work for the government supposed to be like secret agents whose actions can’t be talked about?
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Hi @greg_n ,
could you check 2 sounds on this video from your post? They happen between shots 9 and 10.
- 12s69 after peak of shot 1
- 13s27 after peak of shot 1.
I didn’t use exact markers, those are the aprox positions so you can find them. I’m sure you’ll hear it. They could be from the crane failing, we can see the hooks and steel cables being tensioned at that moment. However, I can’t hear those two sounds from the other camera that recorded the podium. Or any other shot sound from anything else…
@rough_country_gypsy could it be a shot from far away? Click the link below and listen with your eyes closed and you’ll say yes. With eyes open, it seems to be sounds coming from the hooks supporting the sound system. I don’t know… just something that I hadn’t heard anywhere else before.
yes, that would be required if the chain of custody was guaranteed with respect to the shell casings that were recovered “on the roof” and if proper analysis had been done of the bullets recovered from the victims and hardware that got impacted, but the first count of the “casings on the roof” resulted in 3 or 5 and only 20 minutes later the count ended in 8, and to my knowledge, no analysis of any of the bullets has happened, let alone been made available…
ok. fine with me.
exactly right!